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mrmistoffelees 25-05-2015 12:06

Re: Should all police have tasers?
 
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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35779776)
If criminals are able to get a hold of a gun they'll carry it just now. It's not a weapons race where cops with guns will automatically cause every shoplifter to start packing an Uzi just in case they get arrested.


Perhaps not but the shoplifter might think about carrying a knife

I personally don't see the need at the moment to change the status quo (I'm of course willing to have my mind changed by reasonable debate!!)

Derek 25-05-2015 12:21

Re: Should all police have tasers?
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35779786)
Perhaps not but the shoplifter might think about carrying a knife

If they are going to carry a knife they already will, to resist arrest with serious violence doesn't really matter if it's gun or knife. The outcome is slightly more in favour of the cop if it's knife vs glock / taser instead of knife vs baton / CS.

Routine full arming with pistols won't occur here until there are a couple of maurauding terrorist attacks where the Police are utterly impotent in the initial assault, think multiple Derrick Birds only with automatic weapons rather than single shot rifles in a city and not a rural area.

Tasers are already less dangerous than hitting someone with a metal stick and far more reliable than baton, CS or PAVA.

Kursk 25-05-2015 12:40

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If someone would invent the machine gun taser the police could electrocute several miscreants at the same time. True, the odd innocent would cop for it but hey ho it'll teach 'em to keep out of the way :).

Sirius 25-05-2015 13:04

Re: Should all police have tasers?
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35779738)
I think tasers are a bit OTT so why not issue them with water pistols or spud guns?

:D

That's Libs thinking ;)

papa smurf 25-05-2015 13:10

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35779784)
It was a bit pathetic with them all running around panicking the way they were.

if you look at them as 'Robocops' you'd have a load of Robots running around bumping and knocking each other over.

one or two sparking away on the floor.

i thought it was very brave of them to send in the chubby lass to pepper spray him while the rest of them ran around panicking;)

Derek 25-05-2015 13:29

Re: Should all police have tasers?
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35779805)
i thought it was very brave of them to send in the chubby lass to pepper spray him while the rest of them ran around panicking;)

Seeing getting your expert opinion on this incident is so difficult I'll try something easier.

Have a look at this website and watch Maggie's video. Then come back with a plan on how you'd deal with it. Alternatively you could just answer my initial question on how you'd deal with this incident.

http://www.itswhatwedo.org.uk/

papa smurf 25-05-2015 13:36

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35779808)
Seeing getting your expert opinion on this incident is so difficult I'll try something easier.

Have a look at this website and watch Maggie's video. Then come back with a plan on how you'd deal with it. Alternatively you could just answer my initial question on how you'd deal with this incident.

http://www.itswhatwedo.org.uk/

do i need a lawyer ? am i being charged with having an opinion that differs from the official plod line .

Gary L 25-05-2015 15:06

Re: Should all police have tasers?
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35779805)
i thought it was very brave of them to send in the chubby lass to pepper spray him while the rest of them ran around panicking;)

She looks funny :)

It was nice to see that one copper pushing the others away when they had him on the floor.
"Everyone stop!"

everyone stop panicking.

Taf 25-05-2015 17:13

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35779795)
If someone would invent the machine gun taser the police could electrocute several miscreants at the same time. True, the odd innocent would cop for it but hey ho it'll teach 'em to keep out of the way :).

There is a pump-action shotgun that can fire tazer rounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT2EX07lQy8

Derek 25-05-2015 18:27

Re: Should all police have tasers?
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35779813)
do i need a lawyer ? am i being charged with having an opinion that differs from the official plod line .

No. You were busy spouting off about how the Police dealt with the situation badly yet you can't offer a single suggestion as to how they should have dealt with it.

papa smurf 25-05-2015 18:46

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35779858)
No. You were busy spouting off about how the Police dealt with the situation badly yet you can't offer a single suggestion as to how they should have dealt with it.

oh i was "spouting off " was i and there was i thinking i was expressing an opinion , it was a shambles and a farce 20 people to stun 1 man, gross incompetence or what ? hope the chubby bird [ the one with the nuts to do the job got a promotion] as for the other desk jockeys :td:

issue a crime number it'll all be ok

Russ 25-05-2015 19:08

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Still no answer then...

papa smurf 25-05-2015 19:12

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35779864)
Still no answer then...

the old moderator gang up strategy coming into play is it

Carlos Carboni 25-05-2015 19:37

Re: Should all police have tasers?
 
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35779837)
There is a pump-action shotgun that can fire tazer rounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT2EX07lQy8

It is no longer sold and it was used on Raoul Moat...

I do not like guns/tasers...Despite my earlier ironic comment. Derek has a point.

The reality is the police has to deal with situations like the one in the video. How do you handle it? I do not have an answer for the poor cops, standing there, waiting to be sliced by the guy. Ideologically, I reacted as I did..... but think of the lady cop attacking the guy that wants to slice her with a knife, with a water pistol (ok CS spray), pathetic...

I do not have an answer do you?

Russ 25-05-2015 19:51

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35779865)
the old moderator gang up strategy coming into play is it

That was the first post I'd made in this thread and you're still dodging.


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