Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

...you've lost me. The equipment being removed from the exchange will deal specifically with FTTC links. The backhaul link Virgin provides to Sky will have nothing to do with said FTTC equipment. That'll be Sky's equipment, which BT won't touch. Anything after that is Sky's responsibility (i.e. Virgin) and BT won't go near it.

It's not like there's a big box labelled Sky and a big box labelled Virgin with a cable going between them and BT will just be like "Well say goodbye, Virgin!".

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

Sorry maybe my confusion came from the comment that they would remove the backhaul from he exchange aswell.

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

The service being put in place for Sky is not part of what was being built for VM. The Sky project is independent and was specifically requested to be independent of any other service which is standard procedure.

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

But the only equipment they need to deal with FTTC links is backhaul. There is no FTTC equipment other than that to connect the VDSL network to VM's backhaul.

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

Yes, they want to develop and improve the content.

The addition of BT Sport and Netflix is part of this. Which is fair enough.

Personally I though the fibre project was a good idea, but what do I know?

In any event, they have spent a lot money in buying VM, and they need to grow the business and they will have a clear idea of how they will do that.

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

Not disagreeing with you on the fibre piece my only point was that it's their prerogative as the new owners to change the direction. They have a lot of experience in the business and Mike comes across as a very bright individual.

To the point Chrysalis was trying to make, investor sessions are sometimes by invite only and a nda has to be signed just as you internal VM guys have to sign when working on the future thinking .

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

I mean posting small amounts of information that are inconclusive, basically letting people you know whats what but not saying whats what.

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yeah ok I guessed was NDA, but seeing if you would reveal more :)

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

Why is this even being debated? They're not removing anything relating to Sky, even if it comes from VM.

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

What are you on about now? Where did I say anything to do with Sky?

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

You were quoting me, I was talking about Sky...

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

Looked to me like you were talking about backhaul being removed

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

Yeah, I never said anything about removing backhaul, quite the opposite. Still not sure where you got that from.

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

Yeah, I'm saying there's a distinction between removing VM's equipment and removing backhaul stuff. As in, removing one does not mean removing the other. I'm saying that backhaul is NOT being removed. I don't know how I could have been clearer on that one.

Re: Virgin National closes to new customers
 

I've been reading this thread and I'm wondering at the need for folk to be 'disagreeable' when replying to or refuting comments and assertions..:erm: