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qasdfdsaq 14-09-2013 20:21

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35621329)
Qas you must have really good eye sight, there was some kind of scientific report done on DPI and they said phones have gone well past the point that people will notice pixels. Obviously I am talking about looking at it normally not putting it right close to eye to examine it.

Not really. My visual acuity is about average at close range and pretty poor at long range. Most people I know have better eyesight than me. And I'm talking about normal use at arms length, although being shorter than most people I probably have shorter arms too.

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Interestingly the same report also said 1080p is pointless over 720p on screens under 32 inches for tv use.
Yeah, but said TV is assumed to be at 10 foot from the user, not 1 foot.

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On my monitor which is 22inch 1680x1050 nothing feels pixelated if its at that resolution, and of course this is much lower DPI than a high end smartphone.
Chances are your monitor also uses a different pixel and subpixel layout and technology, with a diffuser and smaller inter-pixel gaps. Your display almost certainly has at least 50% more if not double the number of dots per pixel than my sAMOLED (not plus) smartphones for example. And how often do you hold your 22 inch monitor 10 inches from your face while reading in bed for example?

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How often are you copying mp3s whilst running for the bus? and I wonder if a N connection vs AC for copying those mp3s will make the difference.
Once or twice a week or so?

I did mention elsewhere N is already as fast as my memory card at close range but at 400m the extra bandwidth of AC comes in handy. Especially when N can manage a measly 15Mbps and takes 5 minutes to copy said album and said bus is 2 minutes out.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35621316)
Sure - that's the maths of 256QAM. But then just one user can stuff a network node at 400 meg. I was looking beyond that.

Again, not an issue if run properly. Nobody should be able to stuff anything.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35621353)
odd, qas in his rush to disagree with me, forgot he said he fails to see a need for 50mbit+ in a phone.

See above. It's not speed that matters, its consistent speed at range without MIMO. The advantage isn't that it gives you more than 50Mbit, it's that it gives you 50Mbit at four to sixteen times the distance.

chrispuk2004 14-09-2013 20:28

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
qasdfdsaq - I'd like to see you get 120Mbps on a 802.11n real throughput to a phone.

qasdfdsaq 14-09-2013 20:42

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
Sorry, I gotta run and catch a bus. But here's BenMcr getting 107.91Mbps on a phone with a Superhub no less:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1064.html

chrispuk2004 14-09-2013 21:00

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35621777)
Sorry, I gotta run and catch a bus. But here's BenMcr getting 107.91Mbps on a phone with a Superhub no less:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1064.html

107 isn't 120.

Obviously I 'Only' got 120Mbps because that's the most i can get from the WAN at the moment....

qasdfdsaq 14-09-2013 21:07

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
I guess next thing you're going to say is 129.8Mb/s isn't 120 either.

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Obviously I 'Only' got 120Mbps because that's the most i can get from the WAN at the moment....
Yeah, because "WAN" is the limiting factor of your "LAN"

Some of us actually use the speed of our LAN as the determinant of our LAN speed.

Chrysalis 15-09-2013 17:51

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
I use lan if wan is incapable of maxing it out.

I use wan to test if its a smartphone as my phone doesnt hold large amounts of data for me to shift around easily over wireless (the only tool I have that does that is airdroid which is controlled pc side no phone side, what do you use qas to send files over your phone wifi on lan). I dont mind testing with wan since my isp is so consistent on speed but on AC I did do lan testing on my spare pc and laptop with a AC dongle.

Hom3r 15-09-2013 19:45

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35619746)
given the shub2 is only just out the door I think it will be a year minimum.

I wouldnt worry too much about AC at the moment tho as barely any devices have it.

Well my HTC One supports AC, so if for some reason it has a problem with 5GHz it automatically switches to 2.4GHz,

pip08456 16-09-2013 04:31

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35619746)
given the shub2 is only just out the door I think it will be a year minimum.

I wouldnt worry too much about AC at the moment tho as barely any devices have it.

Just noticed this post Chrys.

Given that BT's HH4 is only a few moths out the door, the HH5 is expected soon (certainly before December).

Jong1 16-09-2013 10:16

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35621998)
Well my HTC One supports AC, so if for some reason it has a problem with 5GHz it automatically switches to 2.4GHz,

so do 802.11n phones with dual band support, like the iPhone 5.

Chrysalis 16-09-2013 10:54

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35622098)
Just noticed this post Chrys.

Given that BT's HH4 is only a few moths out the door, the HH5 is expected soon (certainly before December).

yeah but the hh5 was triggered by the openreach wires only install changes.

qasdfdsaq 16-09-2013 15:49

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
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Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35622110)
so do 802.11n phones with dual band support, like the iPhone 5.

Yeah, I wasn't sure how his post had anything to do with 802.11ac at all.

BenMcr 16-09-2013 17:51

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35621777)
Sorry, I gotta run and catch a bus. But here's BenMcr getting 107.91Mbps on a phone with a Superhub no less:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1064.html

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Originally Posted by chrispuk2004 (Post 35621785)
107 isn't 120.

Obviously I 'Only' got 120Mbps because that's the most i can get from the WAN at the moment....

And I 'only' got 107Mb because I haven't yet got my 120Mb upgrade.

Chrysalis 17-09-2013 12:23

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35621786)
I guess next thing you're going to say is 129.8Mb/s isn't 120 either.

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Yeah, because "WAN" is the limiting factor of your "LAN"

Some of us actually use the speed of our LAN as the determinant of our LAN speed.

qas what app you using to show that wireless info?

qasdfdsaq 18-09-2013 01:54

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
The first one? The device's built in diagnostics - i.e. Samsung Service Mode in this case.

Chrysalis 18-09-2013 18:57

Re: Superhub 3 with 802.11ac?
 
how do you get to samsung service mode?


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