Re: Liberty Global - what will they bring to the table?
 

8 million potential viewers (assumes 2 people per home) Don't know all their names though?

Re: Liberty Global - what will they bring to the table?
 

Clearly not otherwise we'd have btsport and Sky atlantic by now. Sky and BT obviously fewl they dont need Vms 8m subscribers.
When it comes to non isp channels then yeah sure.
When Vm had their tv arm had considerable leverage.

Re: Liberty Global - what will they bring to the table?
 

Err... It doesn't launch until August.

Perhaps you could back that up with some examples?

Re: Liberty Global - what will they bring to the table?
 

You have this weird memory loss thing going on....


"- In January, despite a 15 per cent per cent increase in the viewing share of Virgin Media TV's channels over the last three years in Sky homes, Sky forced Virgin Media to accept an 85 per cent reduction in the price it pays for the channels

- Even when adjusted for the Sky basic channels' marginally higher share of total viewership and its larger subscriber base, Sky is demanding an annual price per subscriber some 1700 percent higher than it pays for the Virgin Media TV channels

This gaping disparity in channel valuation is the hallmark of Sky's systematic abuse of dominance and their longer term objective of suppressing existing and emerging competition from other companies. Throughout both sets of negotiations, Virgin Media have proposed relatively small adjustments to the status quo (mostly in Sky's favour). Sky, by contrast, have consistently tried to use their market power to fundamentally change in their favour the dynamics of the pay TV market."

Re: Liberty Global - what will they bring to the table?
 

Virgin used their leverage, they were never going to be able to use it twice, and we did nicely out of it. I don't think that the latest deal means Atlantic is coming, but there is no doubt that the relationship between the two companies is improving, and that must be a good thing.

Re: Liberty Global - what will they bring to the table?
 

then why was it VM only got the sky HD channels when they sold the channels to sky

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Yeah, Bravo & Living were hardly a massive draw, if a draw at all. Living was pathetic until Sky took over.

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VM boss backs VoD and fibre.


http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/m...063639.article

Re: Liberty Global - what will they bring to the table?
 

Liberty Global’s Next Frontier Could Be Content.


http://stream.wsj.com/story/markets/SS-2-5/SS-2-389023/

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Though they just sold their content division Chellomedia to AMC Networks (who it seems want to launch their channels in Europe rather than selling their programmes (like Breaking Bad) to other channels).

If you look back at the history of Liberty Global's chairman John Malone he's basically a dealmaker, buying companies when the price is right then selling bits off when others value them more then buying them back again later at a better price. Through first TCI and then Liberty Media and Liberty Global he's had his fingers directly or indirectly in every major US media company at one time or another.

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But Tom Mockridge said differently in your quote:

'In terms of programming and channels, the 58-year-old New Zealander believes that Virgin Media can “pick and choose” what it needs from third parties, rather than creating content itself.'

So I think the position is a little confused!

I did like his reference to 'a comprehensive offer', though. I don't care where the programmes come from, be it Sky, Netflix or wherever - but I want that content!

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Yes the more content available to customers the better.

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Yep. And he's getting old, so his days of doing deals will be coming to an end soon, so he may be looking at one last big deal before retirement.

In a recent Telegraph article (link below) they were suggesting that the offloading of Chellomedia was to make the business less complicated so that someone like Vodafone can come along ang buy it.

Long term, whoever the owner is, I believe cable needs its own content otherwise it's simply a utility like gas and water.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...afone-bid.html

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Sky have treated living like crap , when vm had living you only had to wait a few months for new seasons of Supernatural , Nikita etc.
Sky took over Living now you wait for over a year.

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And they dumped Teen Wolf, White Collar and Chuck part way through. Thankully, various Netflix regions have all of those.