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Taf 02-02-2013 19:14

Re: What a hypocrite
 
A bit severe I know, but if a lot of them die off they might be able to feed/fend themselves at last. And perhaps they will learn to live within their means and not rely on handouts.

Hmmmm... I seem to have entered Camoron's thought processes by accident.... SORRY!

Chris 02-02-2013 19:17

Re: What a hypocrite
 
Actually the opposite is true. The reasons there are no Einsteins emerging in Africa is in part because so many of those who are born there, die before adulthood. Economic and social development needs to come first; the birth rate will fall naturally once families no longer need to 'replace' those that die of disease.

Sirius 02-02-2013 19:20

Re: What a hypocrite
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35530923)
Lucky the USA didn't think this way back in the 30s and 40s....

Sorry but that is a different as they were supporting us in a war they were involved in as well, also did we not pay it back and has any of the countries who hold out the begging bowl paid any of there aid back ?

Chris 02-02-2013 19:37

Re: What a hypocrite
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35530927)
Sorry but that is a different as they were supporting us in a war they were involved in as well, also did we not pay it back and has any of the countries who hold out the begging bowl paid any of there aid back ?

The US government paid out $44 billion after WW2 for reconstruction under the Marshall Plan. They did not get it back in direct cash terms but the US economy has benefited many times over from the creation of a stable European market into which it can sell its goods and services. Aid that works creates stable overseas territories into which we can send goods, not soldiers.

Arthurgray50@blu 02-02-2013 19:46

Re: What a hypocrite
 
Our governments spend thousands of pounds in arranging dinners (very expensive ones at that) to take out important people' of overseas countries in the hope that Britain can secure a lucrative contract for this contract.

And what happens, a vast majority of the time ANYTHING we want in this country, they go overseas to have it done.

Its about time that Mr Cameron realised he is thew PM for United Kingdom, and he is elected to help the British Voter, NOT to be the holder of the money sponge that every other country sponges on.

His idea is Country comes and ans says, we need aid of 4 billion, Cameron says yes' that fine, he decides ' what hospital, care home, police service can we cut now' to give them the money.

martyh 02-02-2013 19:53

Re: What a hypocrite
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35530934)
The US government paid out $44 billion after WW2 for reconstruction under the Marshall Plan. They did not get it back in direct cash terms but the US economy has benefited many times over from the creation of a stable European market into which it can sell its goods and services. Aid that works creates stable overseas territories into which we can send goods, not soldiers.

Big ,no ,massive difference in helping to build an economy that is capable of sustaining itself providing trade opportunities .A large part of the problem in Africa is that a lot of the countries we give aid to simply cannot and will never be able to support themselves no matter how much money is pumped in


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