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craigj2k12 24-01-2013 18:49

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Those one page one who suggest Hazard should be banned clearly havent seen the full picture. I for one will voice my opinion that if I had have been Hazard, I would have kicked the little _____ in the face. As it was, he kicked the ball out from under the kid, which was about the most respective thing he could have done.

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Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 35526869)
The player that kicked the lad should be banned from all football for at least 1 year.:td:

The ball boy should be banned for a year, my view as detailed above is that Hazard is 100% innocent and has been treated very unfairly

Maggy 24-01-2013 19:55

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Both the boys father and the lad himself have refused to make charges.The footballer was an idiot but at the end of the day it's a complete non event.

craigj2k12 24-01-2013 20:15

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35527146)
The footballer was an idiot

In what way? the kid obstructed the ball and the player tried to get it back, the ball boy was an idiot

Maggy 24-01-2013 21:36

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Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35527159)
In what way? the kid obstructed the ball and the player tried to get it back, the ball boy was an idiot

The footballer was the adult in this situation so he is an idiot because he wasn't an adult in the manner he dealt with it.:rolleyes:

Uncle Peter 24-01-2013 21:42

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The only way to stop this sort of thing from happening is introduce a mandatory multi-ball system in the Premiership. That'll also stop the likes of Stoke giving towels to ball-boys so that Rory Delap can launch his long throws even if it rains (Tranmere used to do it as well for Dave Challinor).

Damien 24-01-2013 22:09

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The way to stop this is to have a real time clock, like the NFL, in Football. Goal Kick? Free Kick? Throw In? Long subs? Doesn't matter. You play the full 90 minutes (in reality we would probably have to make it shorter).

Seriously I am sick of time wasting. Especially goal keepers taking ages over free kicks. I was at Arsenal vs Blackburn a few years ago and they started time wasting from the first goal kick, the atmosphere got very nasty, the stewards were on alert and the ref did NOTHING until towards the end by giving a yellow to the goalkeeper. He speed up after that. Last year Krul did the same (which led to the tiff with Van Persie when he scored right at the end).

We pay a lot of money to watch football and I am fed up with teams who do everything to avoid playing football.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35527194)
The footballer was the adult in this situation so he is an idiot because he wasn't an adult in the manner he dealt with it.:rolleyes:

17 is old enough to know what he was doing and the footballer was, in fairness, trying to get the ball from under him. He didn't go to kick him.

Maggy 24-01-2013 22:55

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35527202)
The way to stop this is to have a real time clock, like the NFL, in Football. Goal Kick? Free Kick? Throw In? Long subs? Doesn't matter. You play the full 90 minutes (in reality we would probably have to make it shorter).

Seriously I am sick of time wasting. Especially goal keepers taking ages over free kicks. I was at Arsenal vs Blackburn a few years ago and they started time wasting from the first goal kick, the atmosphere got very nasty, the stewards were on alert and the ref did NOTHING until towards the end by giving a yellow to the goalkeeper. He speed up after that. Last year Krul did the same (which led to the tiff with Van Persie when he scored right at the end).

We pay a lot of money to watch football and I am fed up with teams who do everything to avoid playing football.

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17 is old enough to know what he was doing and the footballer was, in fairness, trying to get the ball from under him. He didn't go to kick him.

I already said it was an non event as both have apologised to each other. 6 of one etc..and some 17 year olds are by no means adult in their behaviour and attitude and Hazard is 22..Also having listened to the commentary Hazard DID kick the ball and the boy.

Anyway bored of this now.

craigj2k12 24-01-2013 23:24

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If he is old enough to be employed he is old enough to be treated as an adult.

Timewasting is more tactical than using up the time, if someone wants to take a throw or kick quickly then chances are they want to catch the defense while they are unawares, introducing a real time clock wont solve this, and would infact make it worse, as "timewasting" would then be allowed, while the clock is stopped

Damien 24-01-2013 23:35

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Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35527218)
If he is old enough to be employed he is old enough to be treated as an adult.

Timewasting is more tactical than using up the time, if someone wants to take a throw or kick quickly then chances are they want to catch the defense while they are unawares, introducing a real time clock wont solve this, and would infact make it worse, as "timewasting" would then be allowed, while the clock is stopped

Taking it quickly is fine, that's what we want. What we don't want is people taking an age over dead ball situations because they want to run down the clock. It won't make it worse because the motivation behind timewasting will be gone, they wouldn't be running the clock down.

TheDaddy 25-01-2013 03:23

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35527016)
Before the match, the ballboy tweeted this, apparently...

He's more of a ball man imo...

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35527089)
I think according to The Mirror, that young lad who got kicked last night is an heir to a 42 Million fortune.

He only stood in last night as another lad pulled out, if l was Hazard. l would be very careful, the boys father would eat Hazard and the rest of the club for breakfast and has more mney that Abramawich.

You heard it first from me.

CANNOT find a link, but it will be live in The Mirror.

Are you drunk, "abramawich" spent more than that guys fortune on Torres alone...

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35527196)
The only way to stop this sort of thing from happening is introduce a mandatory multi-ball system in the Premiership. That'll also stop the likes of Stoke giving towels to ball-boys so that Rory Delap can launch his long throws even if it rains (Tranmere used to do it as well for Dave Challinor).

Extra time multi ball, I remember Alan partridge advocating that before USA 1994

Uncle Peter 25-01-2013 03:26

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And jumpers for goalposts hmm.

Russ 25-01-2013 08:38

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Apparently the bunch of muppets known as the 'Chelsea Headhunter' reckon they're going 'beat him up'....bet he's trembling.

colin25 25-01-2013 09:16

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The rhetoric on this is getting embarrassing (not here, but out in real world :))

talksport reporter who was at the game compared it to the cantona kick. Obviously drug taking has now extended to football reporters, seeing things.

Hazard went to kick the ball, foolish, but he was not aiming kick at the ball boy. I thought red was harsh, but it is what it is, judgement call. Dealt with.

But what sort of lesson are we teaching people? That cheating is acceptable. That is what the ball boy was doing. For all those baying for more punishment, they seem equally incapable of seeing the big picture.

what next, do we cheer wimbledon ball boys when they deliberately not give the balls back when a British player's opponent is wanting them?

As to hazard, yes stupid, and yes punished for the stupid act.

I can see the oscar going to the ball boy, so watch out for new year homurs and a knighthood for him

Chris 25-01-2013 10:24

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I finally saw the footage of this last night. The little scrote was hiding the ball and interfering with play. The Chelsea player tried to kick the ball from under him. Afterwards, scrote-boy rolled round the floor like a Spaniard looking for a penalty. Mind you, if he's grown up with footballers for role models, his behaviour is understandable.

I don't see the need for any action here.

Matth 27-01-2013 00:18

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The should charge the ball boy with "bringing the game into disrepute" - miserable little timewasting cheat. Give hime a big fine, daddy will pay it!


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