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To the OP,
I left VM because of the pathetic connection i had for over two years and i can see why they appeared on Watchdog (i won't go in to details its not worth it)

carlwaring,
How far up VM are you?

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Come on lads lets have more of a adult discussion rather then the insults being thrown around.

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Carl Waring - You need to learn and ACCEPT that people DO NOT have to agree with you. Stop homing in and stop arguing with everybody and everything they say. It really is becoming boring now. :zzz:

Your Account is now suspended for 48 hours as I feel you need some compulsory forum time out!

Re: VM on Watchdog
 

I know infinity is an isp's product but the 15meg is an openreach policy anyway so applies to all of FTTC.

infinity isnt an ADSL product.

So if you get ADSL you then not on infinity.

Even if you one of the unlucky ones and get around 15meg, the service will still be far superior to VMs 100mbit customer on that program with a filled tbb graph and 0.5meg speeds as well as the high jitter VM service and buffer underrun service (for qas*).

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A majority of people just look at the speed advertised and don't take into consideration the actual quality of the connection in relation to jitter etc. Give me a stable 10mbit connection over a jittery packet losing 50mbit any day though.

After having VM broadband I will never again take for granted the rock solid connections other providers have given me.

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my cabinet is FTTC activated, so I will be off this joke of an isp soon hopefully, problem is sky systems not up to date, I Can order infintiy right now, or if I go with sky I need to wait for their lag.

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What do you mean by Sky not up to date and their lag?

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have you called Sky for fibre Chrysalis?

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I see what you mean now, cabinet activated but online checker/websites saying you can't get it. That is kinda teasing

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It's more of a target really. Estimated speeds below that get flagged for attention but are not prevented.

:D

A year or two ago I quoted a study that found most people don't care how fast their connection is, as long as it just works. Incidentally, my BT connection having stayed online continously for 148 days without a disconnect, suddenly got interleaving bumped on... Presumably so BT can make it continue just working, albeit a bit slower. Reliability, not speed, is what BT tend to prioritize.

But unfortunately these factors (quality, consistency, jitter) are often overlooked in marketing materials in exchange for outlandish or pointlessly vague and generic claims that sound cool to the average consumer...

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Its been explained to me on tbb now.

Basically when a exchange is enabled, isp's have to order a GEA connection before they can sell fiber services of their own.

It seems it can take anything from a few days up to many months, eg. one person had infinity available in august 2011 but only 3 months ago could order sky fiber.

Now sky are also probably waiting for the exchange to be officialy enabled.

On the checks.

openreach checker says not enabled yet
BT wholesale says enabled
Infinity says enabled
Other isps (that I checked) say not enabled.

I now ordered infinity. I do have concerns, like people reporting several ip changes a week (as bad as dialup), and what the routing will be like. But their line rental is £5 cheaper than sky and its avialble for me to order now and I dont have patience :D

For the ip issue I do have a workaround (its not for hosting its for ip based ACL's.) but still I hope my connection isnt going to be dropping several times a week.

I dont have an install date, seems BT's policy is to ring up to sort that out.

So I was wrong, I thought it was just a case of sky's system's lagging on fttc availability but they do actually have to order a GEA connection.

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Thanks for the explanation!

At least you get to escape VM's clutches finally :D

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Your IP changes pretty much every time the PPPoE connection resets. How often that happens is mostly up to the reliability of your equipment, mine on average drops once every 90-120 days (excluding when I reset it myself)

The PPPoE session can also survive a VDSL resync, but only if you use your own router and set the timeout higher than the default.

All in all, it rarely changes IP unless your equipment frequently crashes or power cycles. Though like any ISP if you need a true fixed IP you'll need to pay for the business service.

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Not really, it was BT retails policy, there were ISPs accepting sub 15Mb orders long before BT retail started to.
Sub 15Mb orders are still FTTC (VDSL2). Just becasue they don't call it Infinity doesn't mean it's ADSL.

Indeed, I've seen a few people quoted sub 15Mb and actually end up with 30+ so a low estimate isn't always a bad thing either.

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Not entirely true, I've had the Home Hub survive resyncs and my own router without adjusting the timeout. Increasing the timeout could increase the chances of it holding on but it's not necessary. If it's SRA and not a full modem or DSLAM reboot chances are it'll hang on. Even so I would recommend using your own router over a HH in any case.