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craigj2k12 20-11-2012 13:30

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35499434)
Actually, all three

I'm just a genius, you see :p:

Tezcatlipoca 20-11-2012 19:58

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35499434)
Nope, it's for the modem.

For the router anyone can use any old Cat4+ ethernet cable.

and
The data extension kit is basically a plug-in phone extension with RJ11 plugs, pretty much the exact same as you already have (perhaps a bit higher quality though). You might lose 10-20% of your speed (depending on length and quality of the extension) but it'll probably still be a lot faster than non-Fibre-assisted DSL.

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Actually, all three
1) He's already doing this and I see no reason why he can't continue
2) (Correction to myself, it's actually 30m) This is supplied optionally during installation
3) This is what I do.

Ah. Cheers for that. I was sure it was an extension for router not the modem :)

Still not really doable though as mentioned before. Even if the PTB didn't have a problem with cabling being tacked around the front door and off to the lounge, to get *in* the lounge would require drilling through the lounge doorway somewhere.


Re. extension sockets, though... Everything I've seen (including BT's official info on the BT site) says that you *must* use the master, not an extension.

I have, however, seen posts elsewhere by people saying the OR engineer was able to change an extension socket to be the master somehow. Perhaps that would be a better option.

The master is in the hall, and there are three extension sockets (one in the bedroom and two in the lounge).

It's a while since I opened any of them up, but IIRC they're daisy chained like this: Master > Bedroom extension > Lounge extension 1 > Lounge extension 2.

I can't remember what the cabling is like, though. Given other things I'd wouldn't be surprised if it was cheap and nasty. I may have to open up the master and extension and have a look.

Central 20-11-2012 20:26

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Well I am getting fibre from Sky on 3rd December. Only problem is my socket is downstairs and I need the router upstairs.

Well the engineer do this for me?

qasdfdsaq 20-11-2012 22:21

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35499663)
Still not really doable though as mentioned before. Even if the PTB didn't have a problem with cabling being tacked around the front door and off to the lounge, to get *in* the lounge would require drilling through the lounge doorway somewhere.


Re. extension sockets, though... Everything I've seen (including BT's official info on the BT site) says that you *must* use the master, not an extension.

Like I said, the data extension kit is just a plug-in extension. You already have an extension so you already have basically that in place and ready to use. If it's working for ADSL it'll work for VDSL. FTTC works in the same way as the ADSL you already have, it's just faster. If it had to be plugged into the master, an extension wouldn't be possible on either.

That said the recommendation is probably because you need an *unfiltered* extension or at least a filter on the extension before any phones are connected, which would probably make it look like a master socket. Not an ideal solution but again, it'd work.

The best way to tell what the effects of the extension are is probably to plug your ADSL modem into the master temporarily and measure the difference.

AdamD 22-11-2012 16:53

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Wish they'd hurry up and enable BT fibre in this area (Worthing Swandean exchange)

The date kept being pushed back, it still says September 2012 on their map, but the fibre checker says the earliest I can get it, is December 31st, 2012

qasdfdsaq 23-11-2012 03:22

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Exchange and area are two different things. An exchange may serve a hundred cabinets, and many will go live before others.

That said if the checker is saying 31-12-2012 then it means they're fairly confident yours will go live this quarter. Dates do not appear on the checker until they're pretty confident they can be met, and often not until after the cab is already in place.

Central 23-11-2012 10:50

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
So can anyone help me with my post?

craigj2k12 23-11-2012 15:41

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Central (Post 35500884)
So can anyone help me with my post?

Have you read the rest of this thread? all the answers are there

qasdfdsaq 24-11-2012 05:48

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Central (Post 35500884)
So can anyone help me with my post?

Option 1: Ask for the modem to be put upstairs as part of the install

Option 2: Get an ethernet cable.

Central 30-11-2012 08:24

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Two days to go. Cant wait :D

AdamD 30-11-2012 17:00

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
I hate all you fibre users :P

My mum lives about 15 minutes walk from here and she can get fibre, grr
hehe

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Ohhhhh mah gerdddddd!

BT Infinity https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/11/1.gif Superfast fibre optic broadbandGreat news! You are eligible for superfast BT Infinity. 67.6Mb download
20.0Mb upload Now
Woohoo! :P

Mick Fisher 30-11-2012 20:29

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamD (Post 35504583)
I hate all you fibre users :P

My mum lives about 15 minutes walk from here and she can get fibre, grr
hehe

---------- Post added at 16:00 ---------- Previous post was at 15:59 ----------

Ohhhhh mah gerdddddd!

BT Infinity https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/11/1.gif Superfast fibre optic broadbandGreat news! You are eligible for superfast BT Infinity. 67.6Mb download
20.0Mb upload Now
Woohoo! :P

:woot:

AdamD 30-11-2012 23:57

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Decided to go with Sky, installation is on the 14th.

Harryn9000 01-12-2012 02:13

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
who would u say offers best deal for just broadband looking to switch from virgin to save money. cannot do it till after christmas at the earliest bt haven't done my cab by me yet but exchange has been done for months

Mick Fisher 01-12-2012 17:42

Re: Just had sky fibre installed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamD (Post 35504794)
Decided to go with Sky, installation is on the 14th.

Lets hope it all goes according to plan.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Harryn9000 (Post 35504827)
who would u say offers best deal for just broadband looking to switch from virgin to save money. cannot do it till after christmas at the earliest bt haven't done my cab by me yet but exchange has been done for months

Only you can decide, based on your personal requirements, what is the best deal.

However if saving a little money is your only concern then BT might be your best bet but bear in mind that you have to take a telephone service with your fibre BB service.

BT are a little cheaper than sky with their free install and half price for 6 month offers but offer more expensive telecom service, are renowned for adding stuff on to your bill that you never wanted, insist on 18month rolling contracts and actively protocol manage their network, support is offshored and on a par with VM.

Sky offer a free install for existing customers and cheaper telephone options. The BB is completely unmetered and unmanaged. The service is very reliable but from my limited experience the support has been UK based and very good. Contract is 12 months. I pay Sky £30pm for Fibre Pro (80/20) and was paying VM £30pm for 30/3 service. Offhand I can't remeber what sky talk costs except for me, with my usage, it offered a saving over my, at the time, BT line and the costly calling plan they insisted on foisting on me.


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