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Personally Sky offer nothing to me that I can not get via a combination of Virgin & Freeview. However it has to be said that they will not want to "help" another supplier unless it increases the bottom line.
Other people want offerings only on Sky and hence they complain that Virgin do not have this that or the other . If it is such a problem - then vote with your feet.
I like porterhouse these days if I cant get T Bone that is:dunce:

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Are you Stuart Hall?

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No l always prefered hearing Eddie myself.;)

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The reason they are worried about BT is because BT have realised what it takes to counter Sky; they bought content.


That is an interesting point you raise there.

I agree, but I think that will take quite a while. People like us, who visit forums such as this, are keen to see such developments, but the vast majority of the public want to stick with content delivery via traditional means. They are resistant to change; just read these forums and see the number of people who, even though they have a very feature rich PVR in Tivo, still watch TV in the traditional way, i.e., live and thus tied to TV broadcasters shedules.

If VM were to have both the infrastructure for the future, which as you say, they already have, and content, which is the prime driver for now (and a good few years ahead), then they would be in an outstanding position, covering both now and the future.

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Click the blue arrow next to your name in the quote and it'll take you to the post.

The important point is it was after the VMTV sale announcement but before the Sky Atlantic one. I was testing your claim "Many people anticipated that Sky would launch a new channel after the sale" and can find no evidence to support that.

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[QUOTE=passingbat;35485581]The reason they are worried about BT is because BT have realised what it takes to counter Sky; they bought content.

yes because BT not billions in debt like VM sad but true and sky will always withhold content too nothing VM can sadly do about that swears under breath at sky again like i said they did right thing selling channels to sky to get the HD content and red button even thought it not full red button if VM didn't have the debt then they could compete for the content sadly they cant

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[QUOTE=Dave42;35485590]I 'll say it again VM need a cash rich partner or a takeover to compete now.

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[QUOTE=alwaysabear;35485591]yes totally agree there

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[QUOTE=Dave42;35485592]Agree too. Falling too far behind with no sign of any fightback. :(

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[QUOTE=Henkesghost;35485594]Falling behind in what respect? Their results are out on the 24th Oct may be best to wait until then before making comments that they are falling behind?

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I think the discussions were after the announcment of Atlantic and people saying they were sure Atlantic wouldn't come to VM and they had expected such a move by Sky.

My thoughts then, and I may or may not have posted them, were, hold on, don't be so hasty to assume that Atlantic won't come to VM; surely VM will have included future Sky channel launches in the VM channel sale deal. But as we know, they hadn't, and I still remain perplexed as to why they didn't.

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I have wondered the same myself as I've previously posted. One part of me thinks it is necessary and the other has reservations.

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It seems the doomsayers are in their full element today it seems.:)

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Funny how no-one mentioned it before :)

Do we know that?

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We (the public) can only go on the evidence that Sky Atlantic has not appeared on VM so far, and an earlier post by Stephen, suggests that it won't be anytime soon.

Are you suggesting that it was included in the deal but 'other factors' have prevented it from coming to VM? ;)

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It will be based on value for money. VM have attrtacted more customers to thir tv service than sky have to theirs in the last 2 qtrs wven though they only cover 50 percent of the country and do not have atlantic.