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Re: Just got a warning letter

Why don't they do it the way Sky do an just remove all STM l, traffic management and throttling of any kind giving users a completely none managed download service?

Sky have users on 80mb down and 20mb+ upload unmanaged 24/7 aswell as users on 40mb down and 10mb up again completely unmanaged.

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wish fibre was at my exchange. If I lived 200m down the road I would be on a different exchange and be able to get it. I do have a normal be adsl connection that I use if I want anything very quickly inside stm times.

My connection has been flakley recently (see http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...wer-level.html its still not fully resolved altohugh its been better in the last couple of weeks.) so I been downloading when I can outside stm times (after 9pm) daily sometimes instead of saving it for a night run so I guess that was triggered the email.

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Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35460662)

Why don't they do it the way Sky do an just remove all STM l, traffic management and throttling of any kind giving users a completely none managed download service?

Sky have users on 80mb down and 20mb+ upload unmanaged 24/7 aswell as users on 40mb down and 10mb up again completely unmanaged.

This advert was sponsored by Sky TV - thank you for reading it....:D

btw, isn't Sky Broadband Connect subject to Traffic Management* and Data Usage caps, and Sky Broadband Everyday Lite subject to Usage Management? ;)

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Sky Broadband Connect Traffic Management Policy
We continuously monitor and efficiently manage the performance of Sky Broadband Connect to ensure that we provide a sustainable quality broadband service to our customers. When our network is busy we give priority to applications such as browsing, email, streaming, instant messaging, gaming and VOIP.

This means that certain applications which use up a lot of bandwidth (for example peer-to-peer file-sharing, large file downloads and newsgroups), which have a negative effect on other customers, may run slower at peak times. Our network is busiest between 4pm and 11pm on weekdays and all day at the weekend, but can be busy at other times too, depending on regional, national and international demand.

In addition, we monitor customers who use the most bandwidth and whose usage is having a negative effect on other customers. Customers who breach the Usage Cap or who regularly download large amounts at peak times will have restrictions placed on their accounts to reduce their download speeds at peak times....

...Section 2: Traffic management to optimise network utilisation
(what happens during busy times and places in addition to traffic management as described in section 1)

Is traffic management used during peak hours? Yes

When are typical peak hours? Weekdays: 16:00 - 23:00, Weekends: All day

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35460724)

This advert was sponsored by Sky TV - thank you for reading it....:D

btw, isn't Sky Broadband Connect subject to Traffic Management and Data Usage caps, and Sky Broadband Everyday Lite subject to Usage Management? ;)

Yes they are, but all Skys fibre products 80/20 and 40/10 are unmanaged as is sky's ADSL LLU Product.

My point is why don't virgin just remove all management from the 50/5 and 100/10 products? Saves all the hassle of customers having to time there downloads.

It's not a Sky v VirgInmedia thing, just common sense to offer a toptear service unmanaged by the provider.

Re: Just got a warning letter

But you stated "all"........

btw, it's 'tier'.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35460727)

But you stated "all"........

btw, it's 'tier'.

Sorry I meant all virginmedias tiers are managed only sky connect and lite are managed.

Sky Broadband Unlimited, Sky Fibre Unlimited, Sky Fibre Unlimited Pro

Our Unlimited Broadband product is not subject to any traffic management, this means that we won't slow you down at any time regardless of how much you upload or download.

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Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35460728)

Our Unlimited Broadband product is not subject to any traffic management, this means that we won't slow you down at any time regardless of how much you upload or download.

... but if all your neighbours are hammering the network at top speed 24/7 that might just slow you down a bit ;):p::D

Re: Just got a warning letter

Maybe, but since your neighbours bandwidth and your own bandwidth is dedicated and uncontended all the way to the DSLAM, it's far less of a problem than it is on VM.

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Is it? Fair enough. Didn't know that :) Interesting.

Re: Just got a warning letter

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Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35460662)

I would surmise that VM's network might implode if they did that. :D

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yup, nice to see that other isps are leading the way though which will put pressure on VM. Advertising the fastest speeds will only get you so far if everyone knows that they cant really use it.

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35460874)

I would surmise that VM's network might implode if they did that. :D

Can't even supply me with a 100Mb so I think your correct it would be messy and a bitch to clean up