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Chrysalis 28-02-2012 11:09

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Hugh germany have strong unions and they still have a decent manufacturing base.

Alan Fry 28-02-2012 11:31

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35389833)
And how are all those industries that had strong unions, such as British Leyland, mining, steel, etc?

That was caused by underinvestment, high energy prices and the decline of Britain's power!!! :mad: :td:

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35389792)
Ballcocks,

The company isn't in a position to award a pay increase, it needs to keep it's cash reserves at an appropriate level and it is also investing heavily in it infrastructure to enable it to keep competeing in the future.

If there was a union that tried to impose a pay award, it would weaken the company and would probably damage the company and affect its ability to compete and make profits which would result in job losses or worse.

People such as yourself really wind me up, you have no clue.

So why some companies are giving out large dividends then, also the government should be investing into the economy!

Sirius 28-02-2012 13:43

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35389784)
The reason there are pay freezes is that union power has been weakened! :td:

Even more rubbish. I have been informed i am getting a pay rise and the Union had nothing to do with it.

Alan Fry 28-02-2012 13:47

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35389984)
Even more rubbish. I have been informed i am getting a pay rise and the Union had nothing to do with it.

Yes, but a lot of people will not, take Tube Driver for example, they have strong unions and they are reciving may rises!

martyh 28-02-2012 14:04

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35389833)
And how are all those industries that had strong unions, such as British Leyland, mining, steel, etc?


I can answer that ......what industries ......the unions killed them

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35389847)
Hugh germany have strong unions and they still have a decent manufacturing base.

Germany also produce quality goods ,British Leyland for example ,produced a pile of crap for top wages

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35389985)
Yes, but a lot of people will not, take Tube Driver for example, they have strong unions and they are reciving may rises!

And look at how high the wages are compared to the skill set required to do the job and the disruption caused by the unions in gaining such high wages

Alan Fry 28-02-2012 14:11

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35389999)
I can answer that ......what industries ......the unions killed them



Germany also produce quality goods ,British Leyland for example ,produced a pile of crap for top wages



And look at how high the wages are compared to the skill set required to do the job and the disruption caused by the unions in gaining such high wages

The Unions did not kill those industries, underinvestment, bad management and bad products did, along with rising competition and the decline of Britain’s power!!

The Reason there is disruption on the tube is that the GLA would rather have a fight with the unions rather than co-operate with them!!

martyh 28-02-2012 14:17

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35390008)
The Unions did not kill those industries, underinvestment, bad management and bad products did, along with rising competition and the decline of Britain’s power!!

The Reason there is disruption on the tube is that the GLA would rather have a fight with the unions rather than co-operate with them!!

stop talking twoddle and go back to fairyland

Alan Fry 28-02-2012 14:21

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35390011)
stop talking twoddle and go back to fairyland

Why don'y you go back to your Ultra-Weathy Feudal dreamland they you live in! :td:

Taf 28-02-2012 14:28

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35389047)
Because it's the Tory governments that have to pick up the financial armageddon that socialists always leave behind with unfunded pay rises and spending sprees. :rolleyes:

:tu:

tridens 28-02-2012 14:36

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I haven't had a pay rise in 4 years this year will be 5 last Christmas we didn't get a Christmas bonus we lost our overtime we had to exept 10% pay cut

Last week I was told work extra hours longer but didn't get paid their was a report by the trade unions few weeks ago. 1milion hours of over time are worked in the uk without pay
The owner has just comeback from a sking holiday and company director just came back from Italy nice holiday
These days the worker has no rights at all
It's either you exept the cuts or you loose your job plain and simple

Alan Fry 28-02-2012 14:38

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Originally Posted by tridens (Post 35390023)
I haven't had a pay rise in 4 years this year will be 5 last Christmas we didn't get a Christmas bonus we lost our overtime we had to exept 10% pay cut

Last week I was told work extra hours longer but didn't get paid their was a report by the trade unions few weeks ago. 1milion hours of over time are worked in the uk without pay
The owner has just comeback from a sking holiday and company director just came back from Italy nice holiday
These days the worker has no rights at all
It's either you exept the cuts or you loose your job plain and simple

It is about time we have stronger unions and the abolish all Anti-Trade Union Laws and create far more Pro-Trade Union Laws!

Sirius 28-02-2012 15:25

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35390008)

The Reason there is disruption on the tube is that the GLA would rather have a fight with the unions rather than co-operate with them!!

So are you saying we should capitulate every time the union demands something ?

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35390025)
It is about time we have stronger unions and the abolish all Anti-Trade Union Laws and create far more Pro-Trade Union Laws!

I forgot how idiotic your posts are.

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35390011)
stop talking twoddle and go back to fairyland

:clap:

Alan Fry 28-02-2012 15:29

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35390059)
So are you saying we should capitulate every time the union demands something ?

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I forgot how idiotic your posts are.

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:clap:

Well until Unions demand Rolls-Royce cars and 7 figure+ salaries, i do not see why we should not capitulate every time the union demands something!!

Sirius 28-02-2012 15:34

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35390068)
Well until Unions demand Rolls-Royce cars and 7 figure+ salaries, i do not see why we should not capitulate every time the union demands something!!

:rofl::rofl:

Any other crazy ideas

Alan Fry 28-02-2012 15:35

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35390070)
:rofl::rofl:

Any other crazy ideas

The only one posting crazy ideas is people who defend a failed social and economic system!! :D


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