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I would like to know that as well because although p2p traffic management should be in effect on all tiers, i tried it for the first time last night and had no probs whatsoever whereas on 50mbit it would crawl to a halt on Saturday evenings.

My guess is that we are going to be screwed and the previously non-stm'd 100mbit will be stm'd, they did the same once they had rolled out and got everyone on to 50mbit

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Bring it on although I suspect there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth when it does arrive if it actually works unlike the POS they currently have in place which is so easy to circumvent. Perhaps as the Generalissimo suspects it will be a simple byte count and cap arrangement - if so and they really want to sort out oversubscription it will need to be a lot more aggressive than now.

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Combination of byte count and port load, with progressively more aggressive penalties as high usage continues. In other words once degraded if you keep caning it for all it's worth you experience further degredation ;)

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So is that goodbye to the already dishonest "unlimited" advertising?

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I think it is far too easy to start faulting VM for their services. Surely other providers are not perfect either and by simply leaving one provider to go to another is not the answer.

I'm sure VM don't want to lose customers as with any company but quick fixes to issues you may have are rare with any provider.

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:confused:

So rather than voting with his wallet he should just continue to pay for a substandard service?

Just as well most people aren't such subservient customers, operators would have zero incentive to supply decent services.

Of course no service is perfect but imperfect and unusable are very different things.

VM have never matched the stability or latency I achieved with ADSL, they only win for download speeds, indeed I ditched a 50Mb cable service mid-way through contract for a 16Mb ADSL service due to VM's inability to provide a stable service. I would be unlikely to be with them now if it weren't for that I'm unable to take Sky here.

It is both desirable and essential that consumers punish companies that supply substandard service by taking their business elsewhere.

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Got any sort of figures, will the limits be similar to the current stm. Will it coexist with NNTP and P2P throttling?

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Speed Upgrades.

This is my guess

10MB > 20MB
30MB > 40MB
50MB > 60MB
100MB stays the same
New tier of 200MB in 2012

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Hopefully they will get rid of the P2P/NNTP throttling and just rely on the new traffic management. The P2P stuff has been constantly interfering with things it shouldn't.

But hopefully they do the sensible thing and do it entirely based on local needs and not just a hard limit nationwide. Some areas are capable of handling much more than others, and the current system has shown its not very effective to just have one rule for everyone. But I did say sensible and we are talking about virgin here..... :)

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1 out of 5.

---------- Post added at 20:24 ---------- Previous post was at 20:23 ----------

Yes and yes respectively! :)

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That's what I'd like to see them sorting out as a matter of urgency. Of course that's hardly an unbiased opinion.....

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I would like to know which one is correct.

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50mbit. It is going to be another 2 years before they get round to doing 200mbit here I would think.

sweet, that means i'll never be stm'd because my area has got extremely low utilisation which makes me wonder why we are never one of the first areas to be upgraded. They do the trials here so if it works perfectly you would have thought they would just make the change permanent instead of putting it back to how it was only to upgrade it/us again

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Really ?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35339801-post40.html

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Ja, they started flapping about 100mbit just as I got upgraded to 50mbit two years ago and I have only just got it which is why i want a vmng300 because i know I am not going to need a shub any time soon (sorry for going off topic)