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Jameseh 01-11-2011 17:00
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
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Originally Posted by New to cable (Post 35323999)
You still need to be on VM's network. WOW I thought even you would of realised that Jameseh.

Let me explain if to you, for ondemand on a VM boox you need to be within vm's network!
Pretty sure you don't need VM BB to get on demand unlike Sky.

devilincarnate 01-11-2011 17:02
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35324014)
Pretty sure you don't need VM BB to get on demand unlike Sky.
No you do not:)

New to cable 01-11-2011 17:47
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35324014)
Pretty sure you don't need VM BB to get on demand unlike Sky.
Who said you need to have the broadband.

I quite clearly stated to use the ondemand features from Sky or VirginMedia you need to be on there network.

This is true, please make sure you understand the post you are responding to.

Alan Fry 01-11-2011 17:51
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
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Originally Posted by lexdiamond (Post 35324010)
i think you are mistaken. Vm xl tv does not have lukewarm channels. What is lukewarm is your long list of mediocre channels to be added. Vm has plenty of quality viewing content.
you are calling al jazzera, sky atlantic, sky 3d, many hd channels mediocre?

LexDiamond 01-11-2011 18:19
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35324038)
you are calling al jazzera, sky atlantic, sky 3d, many hd channels mediocre?
Is that all you could get from your list of 90+ channels? Sounds like a mediocre list to me.

muppetman11 01-11-2011 18:33
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35324050)
Is that all you could get from your list of 90+ channels? Sounds like a mediocre list to me.
What were your reasons for taking Sky TV over VM ? I will agree key channels are available on VM my reason is I'm better off moneywise and also get access to Sky 3D , Sky Go which is handy when away from home , ESPNA HD and a BB speed of 10mb which is truly unlimited unlike the VM L BB package , I personally have no need for faster although I appreciate some do.

Chad 01-11-2011 18:39
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35324038)
you are calling al jazzera, sky atlantic, sky 3d, many hd channels mediocre?
I don't think Al Jazzera or SKY Atlantic are mediocre. I just think their latest viewing figures make it difficult to justify them as being must have channels.

Week October 17th to 23rd:

SKY Atlantic: 762,000 Daily Viewers - 0.3% of the overall weekly viewing share

Al Jazzera: 252,000 Daily Viewers - % of the weekly share too low to register

Based on these viewing figures SKY Atlantic is the 43rd most popular / viewed channel in the UK accoring to BARB. The 43 channels ahead of SKY Atlantic are all on Virgin Media.

Al Jazzera which is on SKY, Freesat and Freeview has terrible figures when you consider just how much exposure it has. Al Jazzera is the 105th most popular viewed channel in the UK accoring to BARB.

The CBS channels are even further down the list than Al Jazzera. The less said about TCM2 and MTV Classics the better. I don't think they even get into the top 150.

muppetman11 01-11-2011 18:42
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35324061)
I don't think Al Jazzera or SKY Atlantic are mediocre. I just think their latest viewing figures make it difficult to justify them as being must have channels.

Week October 17th to 23rd:

SKY Atlantic: 762,000 Daily Viewers - 0.3% of the overall weekly viewing share

Al Jazzera: 252,000 Daily Viewers - % of the weekly share too low to register

Based on these viewing figures SKY Atlantic is the 43rd most popular / viewed channel in the UK accoring to BARB. The 43 channels ahead of SKY Atlantic are all on Virgin Media.

Al Jazzera which is on SKY, Freesat and Freeview has terrible figures when you consider just how much exposure it has. Al Jazzera is the 105th most popular viewed channel in the UK accoring to BARB.

The CBS channels are even further down the list than Al Jazzera. The less said about TCM2 and MTV Classics the better. I don't think they even get into the top 150.
Maybe thats what differs then , some people don't like being told they can't watch a channel because its viewing figures aren't great.

gcampbell 01-11-2011 18:52
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"the 43 channels ahead of Sky Atlantic are all on Virgin media"

or to put it another way, the 43 channels ahead of Sky Atlantic are available to 4 million (6 million inc freeview) more viewers than are available to Sky Atlantic.

Tim Deegan 01-11-2011 19:19
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35323866)
As bias as ever :D with the exception of PB.
What on earth are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35323890)
But the guy who started this thread stated Virgin do carry the channels he wants, so for him personally Virgin offers a better TV package when you include Catch-Up TV, TV on Demand and TiVo.

It's all down to what you want from your TV package. Virgin offer a good balance of linear channels and demand content. For me personally I feel I always have something available to me that I really want to watch on Virgin, regardless of what time of day it is. If linear TV just so happens to be poor, I've got access to thousands of hours worth of content at the touch of a button. Also now that I have TiVo, that works behind the scenes picking up shows I might like too.

Remember if it's just a TV package, you can't access SKY Anytime via SKY unless you have their broadband and phoneline too.
Exactly....plus the fact that I will save over £50 per month if I change from Sky to VM. And on top of that, when I have to add the sports package to watch the F1 next year, it will only cost an extra £7.

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Originally Posted by gcampbell (Post 35323935)
Sky Atlantic, since it started has shown around 5 series I want to watch, this is more than Sky One, Sky Living and BBC1 put together - yes it shows repeats, but what channel doesn't? It's the first run shows that sell a channel and Sky Atlantic has them in spades.

Yes with On Demand there are thousands of hours of viewing at he touch of a button - all repeats and often unavailable, just look at the Fringe marathon, missing episodes right left and centre, during what marathon are runners asked to wait 24 hours before starting again? None that I've ever heard of.
I have never watched Sky Atlantic, and have probably only watched Living once.

muppetman11 01-11-2011 19:24
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35324069)
What on earth are you talking about?

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Exactly....plus the fact that I will save over £50 per month if I change from Sky to VM. And on top of that, when I have to add the sports package to watch the F1 next year, it will only cost an extra £7.

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I have never watched Sky Atlantic, and have probably only watched Living once.
Chill :D I wasn't meaning your question. A very valid question to ask.

LexDiamond 01-11-2011 19:31
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35324056)
What were your reasons for taking Sky TV over VM ? I will agree key channels are available on VM my reason is I'm better off moneywise and also get access to Sky 3D , Sky Go which is handy when away from home , ESPNA HD and a BB speed of 10mb which is truly unlimited unlike the VM L BB package , I personally have no need for faster although I appreciate some do.
For me it was just cheaper to have Sky.

But on a XL tv vs Entertainment Extra level, I think it is unfair to say that Sky is better because of its FTA offering. Sky themselves don't advertise any FTA channels as part of its tv offering that is paid for and they are listed separately.

It is being ignored that VM offer EPL football, pay tv HD content and instant vod in their basic sub for XL tv package, none of which is in the Entertainment Extra pack.

kop32 01-11-2011 19:35
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35324069)
What on earth are you talking about?

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Exactly....plus the fact that I will save over £50 per month if I change from Sky to VM. And on top of that, when I have to add the sports package to watch the F1 next year, it will only cost an extra £7.

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I have never watched Sky Atlantic, and have probably only watched Living once.
Why start a new post to ask advice?,it seems to me you had made your mind up anyway to go to VM purely for financial reasons,I on the other hand am willing to pay more for a mix of both Sky HD (for program choice) and VM for excellent broadband and telephone packages.

Tim Deegan 01-11-2011 19:37
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35324014)
Pretty sure you don't need VM BB to get on demand unlike Sky.
You didn't say BB, you just said VM network.

muppetman11 01-11-2011 19:38
Re: Sky or VM for TV???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35324077)
For me it was just cheaper to have Sky.

But on a XL tv vs Entertainment Extra level, I think it is unfair to say that Sky is better because of its FTA offering. Sky themselves don't advertise any FTA channels as part of its tv offering that is paid for and they are listed separately.

It is being ignored that VM offer EPL football, pay tv HD content and instant vod in their basic sub for XL tv package, none of which is in the Entertainment Extra pack.
Yes I agree with that point of view regarding FTA channels , Im sure ESPN pulls a lot of punters in for VM.


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