Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Current Affairs (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=20)
-   -   Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33680488)

denphone 24-08-2011 22:27

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35292061)
The poor decisions made by the Police at the time were highlighted by the Interim Report by Lord Taylor, especially Chapter 18 - have you read it?

Yes l have quickly looked at it and it confirms the poor decisions made at the time by the police.

Peter_ 24-08-2011 22:31

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35292024)
How do you determine it was stupidity ? No doubt decisions were made based on whatever information was at hand at the time. If you were not there, with that information, what gives you the right to call people stupid ?

What gives the Yorkshire police force the right to let people die and in many cases the police officers just ignored the cries for help even as the life was crushed out of victims in front of them while they stood back and watched.

The blinkered stupidity of senior officers not allowing ambulances to approach the ground when it was obvious people were dead or dying, just look at the television footage and think again how those decisions can be made.

Hugh 24-08-2011 23:55

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292036)
Well l think some very poor decisions were made at the time by the Police which resulted in the terrible tragedy which then engulfed many at Hillsborough and if you read my post earlier you will see some of the questions that need answering.

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35292069)
Yes l have quickly looked at it and it confirms the poor decisions made at the time by the police.

Goalposts and moving springs to mind.....:rolleyes:

You quickly looked at a 88 page report, and made up your mind from that brief perusal - had you read it before I posted the link?

denphone 25-08-2011 06:38

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35292127)
Goalposts and moving springs to mind.....:rolleyes:

You quickly looked at a 88 page report, and made up your mind from that brief perusal - had you read it before I posted the link?

l have always had the same view on the Hillsborough disater ever since it happened as anybody that had seen it and the aftermath of it knew that there were many poor decisions made by the police on that dreadful day and as a Liverpool supporter l have always followed this since the disaster has happened and have waited for the day when the full truth comes out and hopefully that will be soon.

Hugh 25-08-2011 08:00

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Once again - had you read the report before I gave you that link?

denphone 25-08-2011 10:21

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35292150)
Once again - had you read the report before I gave you that link?

No but as you politely pointed out l have read chapter 18 since then and my views on it are still the same.

Hugh 25-08-2011 10:24

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Aah - before, your opinion was uninformed, now it is partially informed.....

Try reading the rest - context (and being fully informed) is our friend, when making comments and decisions (imho).

After all, we wouldn't want to be making comments based solely on tabloid headlines, would we?;)

Pierre 25-08-2011 10:25

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
I'd still like to know what "Justice" people are expecting to get from this?

denphone 25-08-2011 10:36

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35292178)
Ash - before, your opinion was uninformed, now it is partially informed.....

Try reading the rest - context (and being fully informed) is our friend, when making comments and decisions (imho).

After all, we wouldn't want to be making comments based solely on tabloid headlines, would we?;)

l tend not to read tabloids so l have never based anything l have to say on those rags so that assumption is way off the mark as l tend to read papers like The Guardian and Daily Telegraph and secondly l carefully consider my comments before l make them but it seems Headmaster Hugh will have to call me in for extra classes to teach me properly.:)

devilincarnate 25-08-2011 16:52

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35292179)
I'd still like to know what "Justice" people are expecting to get from this?

Read through all of this after the video and see what you think?

http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/index.htm

Pierre 26-08-2011 11:46

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35292323)
Read through all of this after the video and see what you think?

http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/index.htm

Yes, confirmed what I already knew, and a bit more besides.

IMO the only way the 96 would get "Justice" would be for criminal charges to be brought against SY Police?

denphone 13-09-2011 18:46

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
MPs to debate release of Hillsborough cabinet papers


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ers-parliament

denphone 18-10-2011 07:45

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Ministers should release all government documents relating to the Hillsborough disaster, MPs have agreed following a debate in the House of Commons.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-15339818

Sirius 18-10-2011 07:51

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35317362)
Ministers should release all government documents relating to the Hillsborough disaster, MPs have agreed following a debate in the House of Commons.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-15339818

Indeed they should, Its a shame that ALL of the successive Government's since have refused to release the papers. I hope that with this release there is closure but some how i don't think they will be.

devilincarnate 19-10-2011 20:28

Re: Government to appeal release of Hillsborough Files
 
Quote:

More than 16,000 people have signed an e-petition calling on The Sun to reveal its sources behind a notorious story on the Hillsborough tragedy, in which 96 Liverpool fans lost their lives.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...e-sources.html


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 19:09.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum