re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

I think this whole story was secretly sponsored by sportswear companies wanting to get a higher profile for their google ads.:erm:

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

Ok, let's be clear - the 'story' is true (in as much as it exists, and certain elements of it are true).

However: The police can not 'ban' and have not 'bannned' England football shirts in ANY pub.

The whole thing has been blown massively out of proportion by people with nothing better to do than to than try to create sensationalist reaction to otherwise fairly run of the mill stories.

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

Read what you want Punky, you are still wrong.
A landlords only duty is not to serve a clearly drunk person, not put up dress codes dictated to by the police.

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

well thats just taken the fun out of the thread :D i wanted to blame some "bloody foriegners " for taking our shirts :D

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

Why let the truth get in the way of you blaming who ever you want for whatever you want? There are enough people around these parts only interested in the truth when it suits them :erm: Crack on, blame away :D

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

http://forums.liverpooldailypost.co....136520&start=0


http://forums.crewechronicle.co.uk/v...p?f=6&t=136520

http://forums.icnorthwest.co.uk/view...136520&start=0

http://www.dailyindia.com/show/368187.php

Fairly run of the mill story hey?

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Better start another thread then.

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Back on topic please.

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

This states differently...... This is why, in certain cities (Glasgow, for example) football team strips are now allowed in quite a few pubs, and strangely enough, the All Sports Bar in St. Helier doesn't allow football shirts.

And it's nothing new - from 2002 (which explains why).

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

Or not serving someone under 18, or a whole bunch of other duties. Take a deep breath, try reading what punky posted and you might find that being a pub landlord isn't as simple as just refusing to serve drunks.

It's not though. It's good policing. If a certain premises are a focal point for crime maybe removing the focal point is a good idea.

It isn't though. End of story.

Nice to see your knowledge of police pensions is as extensive as your knowledge of policing in general and the licensing laws of the UK.

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

A link to a forum thread where this is being discussed, that contains no more evidence of any bans.

Exactly the same thread, started by exactly the same poster, albeit on a different site - in fact, even the comments are identical.....

Oh dear, identical thread number 3 - I'm seeing a pattern here...

Ah well, at least this one's slightly different - even if it offers no more evidence of any 'ban' than the other one does.


You've posted links to 3 identical discussion threads and one news story. None of which offer any real evidence of a 'ban', none of which provide any new information, and none of which seem to provide any views/information not already available in this thread. You might have well just have linked back to Cable Forum or The Sun and been done with it.

It's still a run of the mill story, the fact that there are discussions of it going on about the Internet proves nothing - especially not when those discussions are started by sensationalist idiots with no less regard for the actual facts than they have for the sound of their own voices as they continue to cry fowl.

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

Hmm, just ran this past the licensing officer who works for the same council as I do, not his interpetation at all(and i mean the first part of your statement).

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

http://www.lincs.police.uk/News-Cent...In-Boston.html

:dozey:

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

What would he know? - he just does it for a living.....;)

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

I'm a member of the committee of the working men's club that was closed actually.

I think I should know the circumstances seeing as I was there, I talked to the police about it, and made sure I knew exactly why they were shutting it down.

Seeing as I asked the officer specifically on who's authority, and when he replied "mine" asked got his rank and badge number, yes, I think I was in a position to know that it was closed down by a PC and not an Inspector.

The fact that there was no trouble at the place when they arrived, that the incident happened 20mins before they got there, and there was no signs of anything happening mean that even if it was issued by an inspector it would have been against the legislation as there was no imminent or ongoing threat to public safety.

Also, the small matter of the letter of apology, and compensation for loss of business for having the club with a turnover of near 1mill/year closed at 9pm on a friday night kind of points to me having more than enough knowledge that the police abused their powers to shut it down.

Want to make any more assumptions?

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Again, knowingly allows is not the same as failing to actively prevent.

Once something happens, you have a legal duty to react. You don't have a legal duty to profile your patrons to ensure you don't let in anyone that may or may not at some point in the future cause trouble.

re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 

If a landlord allows unlawful practices to be carried out on the licensed premises, he is partly culpable. If he does not ensure the conduct and order of his customers, he is also liable.

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No, I think you will find that it is also their duty to make sure their patrons do not cause a nuisance on, or near, their premises.