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Peter_ 16-04-2010 19:16

Re: Some shocking news
 
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Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 35002591)
So is death justice for stupidity or ignorance then?

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35002578)
Since when has death been "justice" for theft?

No one else caused his death apart from his own greed and stupidity.

So why should I or anyone else feel any pity for an idiot who would try to steal from an electricity sub station.

He had no thoughts about the people who he will have caused problems for as all his mind was on was the profit he would make from the theft of the cable.

What you say if he had got away and then someone innocent walked past and they were electrocuted.

He 100% got what he deserved it was not justice but crass stupidity.

He did not even need to read to be able to know what these signs meant.

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He took a chance and paid for it with his life, tough luck.

Flyboy 16-04-2010 19:24

Re: Some shocking news
 
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35002625)
No one else caused his death apart from his own greed and stupidity.

So why should I or anyone else feel any pity for an idiot who would try to steal from an electricity sub station.

He had no thoughts about the people who he will have caused problems for as all his mind was on was the profit he would make from the theft of the cable.

What you say if he had got away and then someone innocent walked past and they were electrocuted.

He 100% got what he deserved it was not justice but crass stupidity.

He did not even need to read to be able to know what these signs meant.

He took a chance and paid for it with his life, tough luck.

No one deserves this and this is what makes your attitude all the more disquieting and unsettleing.

Peter_ 16-04-2010 19:27

Re: Some shocking news
 
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35002627)
No one deserves this and this is what makes your attitude all the more disquieting and unsettleing.

If he had not tried to steal a live 30000 volt cable he would still be alive, that is crass stupidity and is deserved of the Darwin Award.

speedfreak 16-04-2010 20:03

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This might not make me very popular however theres no point just posting in agreement with the majority all the time, but I agree 100% with flyboy on this. This is a human being here that has died, fair enough he was a thief but nobody knows the circumstances which led to him being one, might have just been a poor bloke hit by hard times trying to make some easy money, small mouths to feed? nobody knows. I love my car but if someone stole it and crashed and died I wouldnt think "justice had been done." Id actually feel sorry for the thief, maybe thats just me. No offence to anyone whatsoever but this is someones son/brother/father that everyone seems to be joking about :(

Sirius 16-04-2010 20:06

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He broke into a sub station First dumb act

He decided to cut a 30.000kv cable Second dumb act

It was his fault and he has done the tax payer a favour because the numpty would have ended up in jail sooner or later, That then would cost us a lot of money in his upkeep. Self administered justice carried out if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35002631)
If he had not tried to steal a live 30000 volt cable he would still be alive, that is crass stupidity and is deserved of the Darwin Award.

Agreed

peanut 16-04-2010 20:19

Re: Some shocking news
 
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Originally Posted by speedfreak (Post 35002659)
This might not make me very popular however theres no point just posting in agreement with the majority all the time, but I agree 100% with flyboy on this. This is a human being here that has died, fair enough he was a thief but nobody knows the circumstances which led to him being one, might have just been a poor bloke hit by hard times trying to make some easy money, small mouths to feed? nobody knows. I love my car but if someone stole it and crashed and died I wouldnt think "justice had been done." Id actually feel sorry for the thief, maybe thats just me. No offence to anyone whatsoever but this is someones son/brother/father that everyone seems to be joking about :(

So blame society rather than themselves? :confused:

If I gave you knife and said 'if' you put it on your finger and saw at it, your finger will come off and cause a huge amount pain and if you do it I'll give you a quid. Then what if you decide to ignore the 'obvious' to see for yourself and because you want that quid. You start cutting at your finger then it comes off and you end up in great pain etc. Do you deserve to lose a finger and be in pain? Yes.

This person knew what he was doing and knew the risks, he was warned that it could kill him and it did. So there's no pity, it wasn't tragic, just plain stupidity, greed and disrespect for his own life, he played with fire and he got burnt (literally).

speedfreak 16-04-2010 20:22

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35002669)
You start cutting at your finger then it comes off and you end up in great pain etc. Do you deserve to lose a finger and be in pain? Yes.

would depend how desperate I was IMO


This person knew what he was doing and knew the risks

Obviously he didnt know what he was doing, anyway even if he knew the risks etc why does that make it ok to make jokes about someone being killed in this way?


Anyway I see your points, I just dont agree. At one point in my life I would have agreed but my opinion on things seem to be continually changing with age :p:

Peter_ 16-04-2010 20:26

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Originally Posted by speedfreak (Post 35002673)
Anyway I see your points, I just dont agree :p:

Did this guy actually think the signs were fake and so cut through a 30000 volt cable, bit of a hard way to learn he was wrong to say the least.

Rather him than an innocent bystander.

speedfreak 16-04-2010 20:29

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35002681)
Did this guy actually think the signs were fake and so cut through a 30000 volt cable, bit of a hard way to learn he was wrong to say the least.

Rather him than an innocent bystander.

Just so you know where I stand, yes I think it was a stupid thing to do but no, I dont agree with making jokes about it. Im not attacking anyone just thought Id post my opinion on it, would be a dull world and forum if we all had the same opinions :)

Peter_ 16-04-2010 20:32

Re: Some shocking news
 
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Originally Posted by speedfreak (Post 35002686)
Just so you know where I stand, yes I think it was a stupid thing to do but no, I dont agree with making jokes about it. Im not attacking anyone just thought Id post my opinion on it, would be a dull world and forum if we all had the same opinions :)

Quite right as well.

I am just amazed that anyone could have been so damn stupid to think that it was safe to cut that cable.

Maggy 16-04-2010 21:31

Re: Some shocking news
 
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35002412)
I find it disturbing that so many find so much delight in the death of another human being. Yes, he it appears he was attempting to steal something, but there is no way he deserved to die for it, or do you all think, because you believe he was a traveller he deserved to die anyway?


Gallows humour...:shrug:

LondonRoad 16-04-2010 21:41

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{may as well get these off my chest with apologies}
There was bound to be potential differences in this thread. It almost seems like a power struggle at times with both viewpoints being poles apart.

I don’t have the capacity to induce further argument but some of you are being very negative having no sympathy for the deceased. Just think he may have been going through a phase. You should think of him as a down to earth human rather than a joule thief.

Instead of trying to transform your view maybe you should all switch off and put a socket in it.

On a more positive note, I’m sure he was static when he left in the Hertz.
:o:

Flyboy 16-04-2010 21:52

Re: Some shocking news
 
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35002693)
Quite right as well.

I am just amazed that anyone could have been so damn stupid to think that it was safe to cut that cable.

But as has been pointed out, several times, that it does not mean that he deserved to die and that justice has been served.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35002736)
Gallows humour...:shrug:

Sorry Maggy, but gallows humour, like most humour is supposed to be funny. But this goes beyond such things and has descended into the glorification of and delight in, someone's rather gruesome death and the loss to a family. In fact, the delight was being re-inforced with the assumption that this poor unfortunate human being was not worth symapthy, because it was being assumed he was a traveller.

bjorkiii 16-04-2010 22:04

Re: Some shocking news
 
Is it open day now on all deceased folk , can i mock anyone i feel like or only people that some of use find it funny to mock,

Paul 16-04-2010 22:16

Re: Some shocking news
 
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Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 35002770)
Is it open day now on all deceased folk , can i mock anyone i feel like or only people that some of use find it funny to mock,

No.



He was incredibly stupid, and paid for it, deserved ? probably not, but not deserving of much sympathy either.


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