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papa smurf 18-01-2010 20:42

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34947642)
Name anyone has been attacked and killed in this country by anyone wearing a burkha at the time.

does attempted murder count

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ing-suspect.do

Gary L 18-01-2010 20:45

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34947642)
Name anyone has been attacked and killed in this country by anyone wearing a burkha at the time.

Why attacked or killed? why do we even think of terrorism in relation to wearing a burkha?
all the points that have been made about the wearing of one have been to do with toilets/banks**/cctv. forget that they're muslims. just pretend that they're ninja hoods.

** I know they don't use our banks.

Escapee 18-01-2010 20:46

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34947642)
Name anyone has been attacked and killed in this country by anyone wearing a burkha at the time.

Name anyone wearing a Deerstalker hat who has done the same?

If the hat hides the face from cctv the user is asked to remove it, or they are ejected from the premises.

One rule for everyone and there can be no claims of prejudice or favouritism.

Maggy 18-01-2010 20:50

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 34947653)
Name anyone wearing a Deerstalker hat who has done the same?

If the hat hides the face from cctv the user is asked to remove it, or they are ejected from the premises.

One rule for everyone and there can be no claims of prejudice or favouritism.


Don't think I've heard anyone in those articles demanding that Deerstalkers be banned..Neither are motorcycle helmets or balaclavas being asked to be banned..just the burkha.

martyh 18-01-2010 20:50

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34947645)
I refer you to post 43

http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my...ate-for-m.html



"Two robbers – dressed in full-length women’s burkhas – pistol-whipped a post office manager during a daylight raid in Bradford. The attackers bundled their 38-year-old victim into the premises as he opened the shop. They brutally struck him on the head with the butt of a handgun when he was unable to open a safe. But the raiders then panicked and fled empty-handed when they saw a customer peering through the window of the post office, in Oak Lane, Manningham." See article below



another source http://thelambethwalk.blogspot.com/2...asian-man.html


Police are searching for a burkha-clad man who helped steal designer watches worth £150,000 in an armed robbery today.
The man and two accomplices, armed with a handgun and an axe, burst into Michael Jones Jewellers on the High Street in Banbury, Oxfordshire, at about 2.20pm.
They threatened four members of staff, a man and three women, with their weapons before making off with Rolex, Cartier and Breitling watches.
A man was waiting outside for the three suspects in a black Audi, which was later found abandoned.
Staff at the shop told police the offenders, including the one wearing the burkha, were all male.

plenty more where they came from

Maggy 18-01-2010 20:52

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34947657)
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my...ate-for-m.html



"Two robbers – dressed in full-length women’s burkhas – pistol-whipped a post office manager during a daylight raid in Bradford. The attackers bundled their 38-year-old victim into the premises as he opened the shop. They brutally struck him on the head with the butt of a handgun when he was unable to open a safe. But the raiders then panicked and fled empty-handed when they saw a customer peering through the window of the post office, in Oak Lane, Manningham." See article below



another source http://thelambethwalk.blogspot.com/2...asian-man.html


Police are searching for a burkha-clad man who helped steal designer watches worth £150,000 in an armed robbery today.
The man and two accomplices, armed with a handgun and an axe, burst into Michael Jones Jewellers on the High Street in Banbury, Oxfordshire, at about 2.20pm.
They threatened four members of staff, a man and three women, with their weapons before making off with Rolex, Cartier and Breitling watches.
A man was waiting outside for the three suspects in a black Audi, which was later found abandoned.
Staff at the shop told police the offenders, including the one wearing the burkha, were all male.

plenty more where they came from

Plenty of robbers wear stockings masks as well..are we going to ban those articles of clothing as well? :D

martyh 18-01-2010 20:54

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34947656)
Don't think I've heard anyone in those articles demanding that Deerstalkers be banned..Neither are motorcycle helmets or balaclavas being asked to be banned..just the burkha.

in certain places they are

Escapee 18-01-2010 20:56

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34947656)
Don't think I've heard anyone in those articles demanding that Deerstalkers be banned..Neither are motorcycle helmets or balaclavas being asked to be banned..just the burkha.

In my post #37 I have suggested there may be no need to ban the Burkha if the person wearing it is treated exactly the same as anyone using any other device that covers their face. (Crash Helmet, hoodie, balaclavas etc)

The outcome would be simple, in places where motorcycle helmets, balaclavas and hoodies are not allowed, the burkha would also not be allowed.

Or is there a train of thought by some, that the Burkha for some strange reason should be treated differently to any other headgear?

Gary L 18-01-2010 20:57

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34947658)
Plenty of robbers wear stockings masks as well..are we going to ban those articles of clothing as well? :D

But they didn't walk down the street blending in with other people wearing stockings on their head. they didn't walk away with the stockings on their head and blend back in again with all the other stocking heads. :D

martyh 18-01-2010 20:59

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34947658)
Plenty of robbers wear stockings masks as well..are we going to ban those articles of clothing as well? :D


they already are in banks/post offices and other sensitive areas especially when worn over the face :D

all we are saying is that burkas should be banned in some areas for obvious reasons without the fear of muslims shouting racism .They do not need to wear them other than personal choice or because the fanatic that they married forces them to

Gary L 18-01-2010 20:59

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 34947663)
Or is there a train of thought by some, that the Burkha for some strange reason should be treated differently to any other headgear?

I wonder if the same some were to mind if we all were to start wearing burkhas. and we all called ourselves John :)

Maggy 18-01-2010 21:00

Re: Ban the burkha ?
 
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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 34947663)
In my post #37 I have suggested there may be no need to ban the Burkha if the person wearing it is treated exactly the same as anyone using any other device that covers their face. (Crash Helmet, hoodie, balaclavas etc)

The outcome would be simple, in places where motorcycle helmets, balaclavas and hoodies are not allowed, the burkha would also not be allowed.

Or is there a train of thought by some, that the Burkha for some strange reason should be treated differently to any other headgear?

Actually I don't want ANY item of clothing banned.The clothing used in criminal activities aren't any more responsible than the baseball bat is responsible for some idiot smashing it over someone's head.

papa smurf 18-01-2010 21:01

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34947669)
they already are in banks/post offices and other sensitive areas especially when worn over the face :D

all we are saying is that burkas should be banned in some areas for obvious reasons without the fear of muslims shouting racism .They do not need to wear them other than personal choice or because the fanatic that they married forces them to

muslim is not a race .;)

martyh 18-01-2010 21:02

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34947672)
Actually I don't want ANY item of clothing banned.The clothing used in criminal activities aren't any more responsible than the baseball bat is responsible for some idiot smashing it over someone's head.

you must agree though that if someone walks into a bank with a helmet on then at least the cashier will view it with suspicion and probably raise the alarm before anyone is shot

Gary L 18-01-2010 21:03

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34947673)
muslim is not a race .;)

you can claim racism if you're a different shade to the offender :)


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