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Chris 01-12-2009 17:27

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
Or maybe this country just doesn't have a problem with freedom of expression.

Gary L 01-12-2009 17:34

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34919086)
Or maybe this country just doesn't have a problem with freedom of expression.

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This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without inference by public authority and regardless of frontiers.

Ramrod 01-12-2009 17:39

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34918473)
Ayatollah,Mullah/Mawlana These are usually considered leaders of the islam religion although as you said there is no one single leader

Indeed. Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_religious_leaders :)

Hugh 01-12-2009 17:41

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Gary, I am not sure why you quoted Article 19, but Article 18 states
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Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 34919091)

But none of those hold the overall authority that the Pope has with Catholics (and the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the leaders of the Orthodox Christian Churches don't agree with him on a large number of issues).

papa smurf 01-12-2009 17:43

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34919092)
Gary, I am not sure why you quoted Article 19, but Article 18 states

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But none of those hold the overall authority that the Pope has with Catholics (and the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the leaders of the Orthodox Christian Churches don't agree with him on a large number of issues).

looks like gary has been out googled;)

Gary L 01-12-2009 17:45

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34919092)
Gary, I am not sure why you quoted Article 19, but Article 18 states

Anything in Article 20?

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34919095)
looks like gary has been out googled;)

Article 10: Freedom of Expression

:)

Damien 01-12-2009 18:00

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34919097)
Anything in Article 20?

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Article 10: Freedom of Expression

:)

Which the Swiss have clearly impeded upon.

papa smurf 01-12-2009 18:02

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34919108)
Which the Swiss have clearly impeded upon.

via a democratic vote

Damien 01-12-2009 18:04

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34919110)
via a democratic vote

So? Just because it's democratic doesn't make it any less odious.

papa smurf 01-12-2009 18:06

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34919111)
So? Just because it's democratic doesn't make it any less odious.

ok comrade

TheDaddy 01-12-2009 18:27

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34919108)
Which the Swiss have clearly impeded upon.

Not imo they haven't, no one has banned the religion or the right to practice it or even put up buildings to practice it in. What they have done is ban the constructing of alien cultural architecture not in keeping with the rest of the country or its tourist industry.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34919110)
via a democratic vote

You know its funny how the plethora of threads about stoning of gays, repression of women etc etc are shouted down with claims of "it's the country their rules" strange this thread is different...

bjorkiii 01-12-2009 18:36

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
I think theres quite a few in here who if they had the balls, admit to not liking blacks browns foreigners even if they had jobs that needed to be filled in this country e.g racist **** you see them with the same old waffle its the muslims they shouldnt be here there black they must be terrorists :D there laughable once a thread starts you just know the plonkers are going to post they are sat there slavering at the keyboards waiting to spout there well typed careful racist drivel .... as long as it keeps them happy.

Ramrod 01-12-2009 18:42

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34919092)
But none of those hold the overall authority that the Pope has with Catholics (and the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the leaders of the Orthodox Christian Churches don't agree with him on a large number of issues).

Yep, but presumably anyone with those titles has some sort of authority over the rest?
....and can therefore influence muslim thinking?

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Anyhoo, yet again we are having a debate which, if the boot was on the other foot (muslim country not allowing christian expression) the usual suspects would be on the side of the indiginous people and their freedom to run their country how they see fit. But because its a white majority in a christian country then they are apparently wrong to do so. Its their country, leave them to it.....

Arthurgray50@blu 01-12-2009 18:49

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
My major problem is that if we allow this to increase, then they won't stop. We have a major one at Wembley, and in the borough where l live we have two within a matter of ten minute walk.

Although, we are a country of free speech, if we go to there countries, we have to abide by there laws, in that case this country should have the balls to tell them enough is enough in this country.

Chris 01-12-2009 18:52

Re: The Swiss don't like minarets
 
But 'their' country is Great Britain.


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