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Sirius 08-10-2009 17:36

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
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Originally Posted by Ravenheart (Post 34886215)
They've voted in favour of strike action.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8296660.stm

No they have voted in favour of destroying the company they work for and therefore putting all there jobs at risk. They should wake up and smell the coffee. Why should they think they should be treated any differently to the rest of us.

They will all be looking for jobs soon. However the union leaders don't have that worry do they, They have a job as long as they can get there members out on strike.:rolleyes:

Personally i have no time for them or the strike.

Nidge 08-10-2009 17:48

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34886394)
i support the postmen /women 100%
its a shame that there management has brought the situation to inevitable strike action .
a good postie is a blessing .

It's nothing to do with the management it's called bringing the post into the 21st century, I urge you to look at DHL's operation at East Midlands Airport, they have invested over £500million on new technology at East Midlands nothing is sorted by hand anymore it's all done by computer and machine, the machines are that good they can read even the worse handwriting, they are that streamlined even the Royal Mail TNT, City Link, DPD all use DHL to ship their goods out of the UK and on to other countries.

UPS have also invested hundreds of millions of pounds on their East Midlands Operation.

The Royal Mail are after getting the business back from it's competitors and to do that they have to invest in new technology, if this means getting rid of the dead wood that plagues the Royal Mail then sobeit.

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34886402)
No they have voted in favour of destroying the company they work for and therefore putting all there jobs at risk. They should wake up and smell the coffee. Why should they think they should be treated any differently to the rest of us.

They will all be looking for jobs soon. However the union leaders don't have that worry do they, They have a job as long as they can get there members out on strike.:rolleyes:

Personally i have no time for them or the strike.

The Postmen and Women will be their own worst enemies when the brown stuff hits the fan.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34886394)
i support the postmen /women 100%
its a shame that there management has brought the situation to inevitable strike action .
a good postie is a blessing .

We've got some good ones round here but we've got more bad ones, the one that comes to my house is spot on, if I'm not in and there's a parcel that needs signing for he'll put it in the shed and drop a note through my door, I've told him to do that, the bad ones won't do that they'll tell me to go to the depot to collect it.

papa smurf 08-10-2009 17:57

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nidge (Post 34886409)
It's nothing to do with the management it's called bringing the post into the 21st century, I urge you to look at DHL's operation at East Midlands Airport, they have invested over £500million on new technology at East Midlands nothing is sorted by hand anymore it's all done by computer and machine, the machines are that good they can read even the worse handwriting, they are that streamlined even the Royal Mail TNT, City Link, DPD all use DHL to ship their goods out of the UK and on to other countries.

UPS have also invested hundreds of millions of pounds on their East Midlands Operation.

The Royal Mail are after getting the business back from it's competitors and to do that they have to invest in new technology, if this means getting rid of the dead wood that plagues the Royal Mail then sobeit.

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The Postmen and Women will be their own worst enemies when the brown stuff hits the fan.

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We've got some good ones round here but we've got more bad ones, the one that comes to my house is spot on, if I'm not in and there's a parcel that needs signing for he'll put it in the shed and drop a note through my door, I've told him to do that, the bad ones won't do that they'll tell me to go to the depot to collect it.

quote nidge
"if this means getting rid of the dead wood that plagues the Royal Mail then sobeit."


there called people nidge -fellow human beings ,with family's to feed and bills to pay and hopefully a job for life ....

Nidge 08-10-2009 18:13

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34886419)
quote nidge
"if this means getting rid of the dead wood that plagues the Royal Mail then sobeit."


there called people nidge -fellow human beings ,with family's to feed and bills to pay and hopefully a job for life ....

I've been down that road before when the coal mines closed round here, I agree it's not nice but they'll be paid off handsomely because it's state owned, they'll get help gaining further employment from the Government.

Sirius 08-10-2009 18:27

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34886419)
hopefully a job for life ....

Can i have one of those.

Hugh 08-10-2009 18:28

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34886441)
Can i have one of those.

I didn't they existed anymore.

Xaccers 08-10-2009 18:33

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34886441)
Can i have one of those.

I'd love one too!

papa smurf 08-10-2009 18:36

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34886441)
Can i have one of those.

if your good at what you do then why would any one get rid of you ;)

dilli-theclaw 08-10-2009 18:37

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
I know I'm being selfish but I wonder if the articles for the blind post scheme will end when the royal mail collapses.

Xaccers 08-10-2009 18:42

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34886450)
if your good at what you do then why would any one get rid of you ;)

Financial reasons perhaps? That's why most people are made redundant.
Why should a company risk it's future by employing staff it no longer needs?

papa smurf 08-10-2009 18:50

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34886458)
Financial reasons perhaps? That's why most people are made redundant.
Why should a company risk it's future by employing staff it no longer needs?

if it doesn't need them. then it wont mind them withdrawing there labor will it ;)

Xaccers 08-10-2009 18:53

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34886461)
if it doesn't need them. then it wont mind them withdrawing there labor will it ;)

Are you suggesting all those who strike are surplus to requirment?

Tuftus 08-10-2009 18:56

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
Right, so with the job market as it is and loads of people out of work... They are going to strike?

How many people are un employed in this country at the moment that would just love a job?

I think you can draw your own conclusions as to where this is going...

During the last strike, I was in Sales and counted on the post for cheques etc. I missed my targets because of these whiners and therefore lost my sales bonus, even though my customers said well we have put the cheque in the post.

Stuff em, if they don't like it, there are what? 2.how many million that would like a job? Not just because it is 'cushy' but because it is a job and makes them feel better about themselves earning a wage.

If they don't like the change of moving the business forward, tough. See above, plenty of people waiting in the wings for the chance.

Welcome to no sympathy night.

Ignitionnet 08-10-2009 18:59

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34886419)
hopefully a job for life ....

Have you considered visiting the real world recently papa?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34886461)
if it doesn't need them. then it wont mind them withdrawing there labor will it ;)

Evidently not. So by that rather twisted logic RM should fire every employee who goes on strike?

Trade unions are largely a relic of times gone by when employees had quite literally no rights. Sadly some of them, the RMT being an obvious example but there are others, still live in that time.

It wouldn't surprise if a lot of RM employees didn't actually know why they are going on strike they just got fed BS from the union.

jamiefrost 08-10-2009 19:02

re: [Update] The Royal Mail strike thread
 
Royal Mails biggest problem is the failure to modernise for what ever reason. The unions complained bitterly when the where asked complete an 8 hour day insted of going home if they finished early.

It's very difficult to get any form of new automation into the business, in contrast, private compaines invest in automation if the payback is there, lowering the cost per parcel for example.

The BIG problem with Royal Mail is the 'Last Mile' delivery no one else has the infrastructure in place to do this. Unless they modernise they will disapear.

As for blaming Amazon for pulling out, if there not getting the service they require from Royal Mail they have to move to protect there buisness.

JJ


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