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Hugh 20-09-2009 13:40

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34875444)
So much for the right to free speech. Another one way street. Pandering to the Muslims.
So the Mail succeeds in it's purpose, arousing resentment.

Muslims calling our troops murderers out on the streets = no action.
Free speech - I think what they did was wrong, but it's free speech

Christians saying Muh was a warlord = Firing squad.
Not a fact, a supposition - this is one of the things allegedly said, but what else was said.

No wonder we`re the laughing stock of the world.:td::td:


SMG 20-09-2009 13:47

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The mail doesn't arouse resentment. "I" resent Muslims denouncing our troops as murderers. Theres a limit to free speech, & they crossed the line. We do pander to their beliefs, & I for one am sick & tired of hearing about Muslims, & their rights.

Russ 20-09-2009 13:49

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Any other examples where we apparently 'pander' to their beliefs?

Let me guess, Winterval? Baa Baa rainbow sheep?

nomadking 20-09-2009 13:50

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34875443)
Tortuous, and faulty, imho, logic.

For example - I think that the Klu Klux Klan, who treated African-Americans as a lesser race, lynched them, and terrorised them by setting fire to houses, churches, and beating those who stepped out of line, were bigots.

I think those who ran the apartheid regime in South Africa, treating the original inhabitants of the country as third-class citizens with less rights because they had a different colour of skin, were bigots.

Lynching people is not "a difference of opinion". ;)

I suppose if you're going to be selective as to when people use the term 'bigot', then I suppose that you think that a drive-by shooting or putting a tyre around someone's neck, filling it with petrol, and setting it alight is just 'a difference of opinion'.

SMG 20-09-2009 13:52

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34875448)
Any other examples where we apparently 'pander' to their beliefs?

Let me guess, Winterval? Baa Baa rainbow sheep?


With you quotin em, case closed.

Damien 20-09-2009 13:54

Re: Christians arrested for defending there beliefs
 
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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34875447)
The mail doesn't arouse resentment. "I" resent Muslims denouncing our troops as murderers. Theres a limit to free speech, & they crossed the line. We do pander to their beliefs, & I for one am sick & tired of hearing about Muslims, & their rights.

How many Muslims do this? It's not their fault if you decide to characterise the entire religion based on the action of a minority. You could say the same for fundamentalist Christians of which the United States has many examples if you wished to 'resent' Christians. How about the Jewish faith? Quite successful in America and anti-Semites use examples of their success to say America is 'run by jews'.

The Mail does feed this resentment to Muslims by publishing, time and time again, examples of pandering to Muslims. The fact these mostly tend to be mis-characterisation of the events or outright lies means nothing to those who already wish to find a reason to dislike Muslims.

Hugh 20-09-2009 13:55

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 34875449)
I suppose if you're going to be selective as to when people use the term 'bigot', then I suppose that you think that a drive-by shooting or putting a tyre around someone's neck, filling it with petrol, and setting it alight is just 'a difference of opinion'.

No - I thought you did.

Russ 20-09-2009 13:56

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34875451)
With you quotin em, case closed.

You do realise that both incidents were fallacies and didn't really happen?

Xaccers 20-09-2009 13:56

Re: Christians arrested for defending there beliefs
 
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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34875447)
The mail doesn't arouse resentment. "I" resent Muslims denouncing our troops as murderers. Theres a limit to free speech, & they crossed the line. We do pander to their beliefs, & I for one am sick & tired of hearing about Muslims, & their rights.

So hang on, you believe in freedom of speach, except when it breaches the peace, such as insulting our forces in public (which I agree, the police should have intervened), one would presume because we look up to them, respect them, and hold them dear, but not for when muslims have people they look up to, respect or hold dear?

Damien 20-09-2009 13:59

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34875451)
With you quotin em, case closed.

Yes but those told out to be false didn't they? More ammuniation for the Muslim-haters to cause resentment against Muslims. Most of whom have done nothing to deserve the resentment they get from ignorant, ill-informed, people.

SMG 20-09-2009 14:20

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I knew that would get you all going. Short answer, Religion is a pain. Its responsible for most of the trouble in this world, with Muslims leading it.

damien. I hope your not flaming me by calling me names, are you?

Russ 20-09-2009 14:21

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No, ignorance and intolerance of religion is the pain as well as biased reported and people being only too willing to believe its headlines.

SMG 20-09-2009 14:23

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34875467)
No, ignorance and intolerance of religion is the pain.


Why?

Russ 20-09-2009 14:25

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34875468)
Why?

Because armchair experts are only too willing to believe any headline about religion rather than research the matter objectively.

Maggy 20-09-2009 14:29

Re: Christians arrested for defending their beliefs
 
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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34875465)
I knew that would get you all going. Short answer, Religion is a pain. Its responsible for most of the trouble in this world, with Muslims leading it.

damien. I hope your not flaming me by calling me names, are you?

PEOPLE are responsible for most of the trouble in this world..even those who eschew religion have been known to stamp all over peoples rights and use violence to achieve their ends.Look at the way Communist Russian and Communist Asian countries have stamped all over people's freedoms.


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