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Fox hunting was a very inefficient way of controlling foxes besides being rather cruel.So are many hunting methods that rely on dogs.:(

However foxes can and do get to the point where they are in danger of eating out their resources.Some sort of control is required to keep any of our native species numbers at a healthy level.

However as someone pointed out earlier I don't think that for some supporters that the health of foxes was paramount in their decision to vote against the sport.I remember one MP suggesting going after the sport od angling next..Stupid woman.At least fish can be eaten unlike foxes.:rolleyes:

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Mmmmmmmmmmmm - foxes......

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Well when I used to live on a farm with my parents we never saw the need to go hunting but we DID have the need to sort the foxes out.

So I'm going to make myself unpopular now and say that when I caught a fox attacking our rabbits (think farming scale - not just one or two) or chickens etc I shot it. They were nothing but vermin to me. But I never felt the need to go hunting them.

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That's what I thought. A fox hunt seems like a rather inefficient way of dealing with a fox problem.

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Exactly.Shooting them is and was a far more efficient way of dealing with them than get a group dressed in red jackets on horseback to go mob handed and watch a pack of hounds kill one by tearing it to bits.That is truly bestial and completely unnecessary.

Fox hunting was never about controlling foxes at all.However I didn't like the way it was dealt with by Parliament.This Labour government is far too keen to 'ban' things IMHO.

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imho, a fox hunt is a solution in search of a problem.

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Oscar Wilde Nailed it. The unspeakable pursuing the inedible.

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There is no need to chase 1 fox with 30 odd blood thirsty dogs, that will rip the poor fox appart.

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For me, i can understand a farmer with a legitimate reason to SHOOT foxes to protect his livelyhood ( but struggle with life v money) but after having a mother fox and her cubs in my garden and watching them intently even stepping outside i found them quite trusting, maybe it's because of loss of habbitat or food i don't know i cannot condone killing them in a "sport".

There is absolutly no way you can convince me that hunting them with dogs is the right way to control fox population, infact i feel a little feeling inside when i see them that just makes me happy (bit of a hippy maybe) maybe farmers should just put more research into protecting their livestock rather than killing them (i now what i said above) if you cannot protect your livestock from an animal that is intellectually inferior to you maybe you should just give up tbh.

but it is interesting that rich/well t do people enjoy this sport because they are the sort of people i would gladly kill as they have nothing to offer the human race especially when they pass their "knowledge" to their children. but obviously there is a double standard there because i would willingly kill kill something with a lower intellect to right wrongs.

i am a meat eater first and formost but i only eat food that is farmed for purpose killing a fox is pointless due to the point laid out above:if you can stop a prisoner getting out you can stop a fox getting in if you've the intelligence.

anybody who has taken the time to watch these animals would agree, they are beautiful and even peaceful to me, even though they have tipped my wheelie bin to get to chicken but unless you've been so priviledged to not be hungry you'll never know.

hope the toffs have a painfull/fatal accidents on there stupid/cowardly outings

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Interesting that your concern for animal welfare doesn't extend to rats.

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I wonder how many other people against hunting are more concerned with class discrimination than the actual foxes, I seem to remember quite a few Labour MP's wooping for joy that ''the toffs were taken down a peg'' on the night it was banned.

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I quite agree far better to shoot it, don't want it escaping after all.

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I was brought up in the city, I have no affection for fox hunting. It is a way of life and a class apart from my lifestyle.

But if people want to chase after fox's on horseback with dogs then I don't see the issue.

People are happy to have fox's shot, poisoned etc.

It's a non-issue, I'm pretty sure that if you asked most people they couldn't give a toss.

What I am against is this country's obsession with banning things, or offending people. There's too many twisted morals in this country.

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Can you back this up please.

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You'll find that most of the hunts these days (including fox hunting before it was banned) was more CHAVS than country people..

As for killing badgers/birds of prey that's an extremely old viewpoint when landowners wanted grouse moors (or other hunting ground) so killed any natural predator like eagles so there was more for them to shoot and badgers were killed for the fact that they carried bovine TB..

These days most badger sets are let be and the only people killing birds are the nutters who seems to think that they look better stuffed and mounted :(

My own viewpoint is that if you're gonna kill anything then it has to be one of two things.. A pest that damages your livelyhood/health or an animal that you or someone else is gonna eat.. and at that point the killing whether it be pest or food should be by the quickest way possible..

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I'm a country (or was) person and i dont like to kill things :confused:

Why do townies like to stab people? :confused:

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Thanks for that...

Now can you post links that prove the following statement.

'Why do "country people" always want to kill things?'

Unless of course you mean /some/ and not ALL of them?

Thank you for your links though. :tu: