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Hugh 28-06-2009 11:58

Re: atheists camp for kids
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823028)
Does Sunday school count?

If the Sunday School meant you went away for a couple of days for camping and activities, yes - otherwise, no.

But you probably already knew that.:dozey:

Russ 28-06-2009 11:59

Re: atheists camp for kids
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823028)
I didn't use the term brainwashing.

OK there you go, you've just bought yourself some thinking time.

So why do you assume at 'God camp' kids aren't encouraged to think for themselves?

papa smurf 28-06-2009 11:59

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Originally Posted by lucy7 (Post 34823015)
This is all going so off topic......again!

Any proper thoughts on the original posters questions after the link he posted, I for one am interested on others serious view points, even the strong dogmatic ones! ;)

my kids are grown up now they both went to beavers/scout camps ,but if there was an alternative i would have had no objections to them attending, if and only if it was there wish, i am a great believer in giving kids choices out side my own beliefs/none beliefs ,but as long as there was tents and camp fires i doubt they would really have cared about anything else.

Gary L 28-06-2009 12:00

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34823020)
Well so far I don't see anything that indicates to me that children at this camp will be allowed to 'think for themselves' as people are putting it. What if a group of them get together and say they've decided there is a God, will they be 'encouraged' to think otherwise?

Aside from there being no indication to you that they will be allowed to think for themselves. do you think it's a good thing if they are allowed to think for themselves?

Hugh 28-06-2009 12:00

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823021)
if you go to a God preaching one, you are told to think in the way of being told that God says this and God says that.

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823028)
I didn't use the term brainwashing.

Good old hair-splitting Gary.....:D

Gary L 28-06-2009 12:02

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34823032)
If the Sunday School meant you went away for a couple of days for camping and activities, yes

Yes.

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But you probably already knew that.:dozey:
Didn't I tell you this before? I'm sure I've told you before. I probably didn't :dozey:

Russ 28-06-2009 12:03

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823036)
Aside from there being no indication to you that they will be allowed to think for themselves. do you think it's a good thing if they are allowed to think for themselves?

How about you answer my question first ;)

Gary L 28-06-2009 12:04

Re: atheists camp for kids
 
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34823034)
So why do you assume at 'God camp' kids aren't encouraged to think for themselves?

Me and Foreverwar have decided that Sunday school qualifies :)

Paul 28-06-2009 12:04

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34822930)
No, I'm saying that children whose parents would send them to philosophy camp in the summer are probably not the most popular children in class. ;)

The same also applies to children whose parents would send them to a "god camp".

Gary L 28-06-2009 12:06

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34823041)
How about you answer my question first ;)

Answer: I doubt it.
your turn.

Russ 28-06-2009 12:08

Re: atheists camp for kids
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823042)
Me and Foreverwar have decided that Sunday school qualifies :)

So can we both agree that you've got no reason to assume that at 'God camp' kids aren't encouraged to think for themselves?

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823046)
Answer: I doubt it.
your turn.

Well you see I haven't made any assumptions at all so I don't really need to have a 'turn'....do I?

Gary L 28-06-2009 12:12

Re: atheists camp for kids
 
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34823047)
So can we both agree that you've got no reason to assume that at 'God camp' kids aren't encouraged to think for themselves?

No, because I went to Sunday school camp.

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Well you see I haven't made any assumptions at all so I don't really need to have a 'turn'....do I?
You said if I answered your question you'd answer mine.
play fair :)

Aside from there being no indication to you that they will be allowed to think for themselves. do you think it's a good thing if they are allowed to think for themselves?

Russ 28-06-2009 12:18

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823052)
No, because I went to Sunday school camp.

Ok so you're judging each and every 'God camp' in the world on your 'sunday school camp' (amazing we've not heard of this before btw) experiences?

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823052)
Aside from there being no indication to you that they will be allowed to think for themselves. do you think it's a good thing if they are allowed to think for themselves?

I wouldn't have it any other way, as you'd expect.

Gary L 28-06-2009 12:27

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34823056)
Ok so you're judging each and every 'God camp' in the world on your 'sunday school camp'

Not all of them. just a majority of them.

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(amazing we've not heard of this before btw) experiences?
I have mentioned going to Sunday school before. you should be able to find the references if you use the Search.

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I wouldn't have it any other way, as you'd expect.
I wouldn't say I expect it. but it's good that you think that it's a good thing to let them think for themselves.

Russ 28-06-2009 12:31

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823067)
Not all of them. just a majority of them.

OK which ones do you judge then? Perhaps the ones I might mention? If not what is your criteria for judgement?

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823067)
I have mentioned going to Sunday school before. you should be able to find the references if you use the Search.

You've never mentioned any sort of camp before, curiously.

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34823067)
I wouldn't say I expect it. but it's good that you think that it's a good thing to let them think for themselves.

Why would you not expect it? Have I ever displayed any of the traits of the stereotypical 'overbearing, brain-washing, door-knocking, evangelical christian' that you seem to 'have it in' for?


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