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Wicked_and_Crazy 07-10-2008 13:42
Re: Should smoking in cars carrying children be banned?
 
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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34649215)
On each of those occasions, I've had the window open and, as it happens, he's been asleep.
Does he stop breathing when asleep then?

Your a responsible adult, you should have waited. (Sorry i think i got you confused with someone else ;))

Nugget 07-10-2008 13:44
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Originally Posted by David F (Post 34649218)
why dont you smoke around him day to day?
Because I've chosen not to - I'm a (fairly ;) ) intelligent bloke, and I'm well aware of the theories surrounding passive smoking. Moreover, as somweone who used to smoke in the house, I really can't be doing with the smell of stale cigarettes.

zing_deleted 07-10-2008 13:45
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34649212)
Pretty much sums up how I feel about it..:clap:


and David, the teachers and pupils situation..one of these days your daughter will be 16-18 and in full time education of some sort...
yeah and if a teacher takes advantage I will allow the school to find away around it and catch him on his own one night away from witnesses and impose Dave justice upon him.

So basically your saying its ok to smoke around kids then Maggy?

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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34649221)
Because I've chosen not to - I'm a (fairly ;) ) intelligent bloke, and I'm well aware of the theories surrounding passive smoking. Moreover, as somweone who used to smoke in the house, I really can't be doing with the smell of stale cigarettes.

so at least you accept there is a risk and take precautions. I understand and accept what is like under stress as an ex smoker I can thoughly understand.

STONEISLAND 07-10-2008 13:47
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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34649215)
I'll admit to having smoked in the car when Little Nug's been in it - on each of the 3 or 4 occasions, it's been when we've been stuck in a traffic jam on a motorway, several miles from either a slip road or a service station. On each of those occasions, I've had the window open and, as it happens, he's been asleep.

I'm don't particularly want to get into a big argument about the whole thing but, as a smoker, having sat in the car for an hour and not moved (or, at least, only moved about a mile), I'm not going to apologise for doing it. Day-to-day, I don't smoke in front of him - I smoke outside when I'm at home, and it's even rare that I'll have a cigarette when we're just out walking with him. Imo, the 3 or 4 occasions when I have done it have been no worse than, as I said earlier, walking past the smokers outside a pub :shrug:
As an ex smoker I dont seeen anything wrong in that, as long as window is open. :)

Nugget 07-10-2008 13:47
Re: Should smoking in cars carrying children be banned?
 
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Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34649219)
Does he stop breathing when asleep then?

Your a responsible adult, you should have waited. (Sorry i think i got you confused with someone else ;))
Well, I'm an adult :)

My point about him being asleep is that he couldn't see me doing it which, as we've all seen the adverts doing the rounds, contributes to kids seeing smoking as a good thing (not that I'm saying it is particularly).

As it happens, I don't feel that I should have waited - in reality, the distance travelled at the time meant that I could probably have got out of the car and had one, but it's not advisable on a motorway. I'm not going to disagree that, in other circumstances, I would have waited, but that wasn't the situation at that time.

southwell 07-10-2008 13:49
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Originally Posted by STONEISLAND (Post 34649226)
As an ex smoker I dont seeen anything wrong in that, as long as window is open. :)
Not knowing what kind of long term effect it could have on a child? I think that is selfish.

Nugget 07-10-2008 13:49
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Originally Posted by David F (Post 34649222)
so at least you accept there is a risk and take precautions. I understand and accept what is like under stress as an ex smoker I can thoughly understand.
Absolutely and, as an ex-smoker yourself, you'll know that it's far better to have a fag than to get out of the car and lamp the bloke in front of you who refuses to move, even though all the rest of the traffic has :)

Wicked_and_Crazy 07-10-2008 13:50
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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34649228)
My point about him being asleep is that he couldn't see me doing it which, as we've all seen the adverts doing the rounds, contributes to kids seeing smoking as a good thing (not that I'm saying it is particularly).
Is that a joke??

Do you think by smoking in secret from him he's going to be oblivious to smoking? I agree its being "the good parent" but its pointless.

Nugget 07-10-2008 13:50
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Originally Posted by southwell (Post 34649230)
Not knowing what kind of long term effect it could have on a child? I think that is selfish.
And you're entitled to your opinion. Doesn't mean that it's right though ;)

supremus 07-10-2008 13:51
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34649142)
Sadly they don't realise sooner or later it will be something they enjoy that is facing the chop and then they will expect support to save their preferred thing. What goes round comes around and those foaming at the mouth to have smoking banned will suffer later on.
It's not about what you enjoy, it's about causing harm to other people, and some of us are considerate enough to understand that. I might enjoy going around urinating on people in public, but I'm ok with it not being allowed. Although, it would still be less hazardous to other people than smoking, and it would certainly leave them smelling better. ;)

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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34649234)
And you're entitled to your opinion. Doesn't mean that it's right though ;)
He echoed my sentiments, so the odds are heavily in his favor.

Nugget 07-10-2008 13:51
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Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy (Post 34649233)
Is that a joke??

Do you think by smoking in secret from him he's going to be oblivious to smoking? I agree its being "the good parent" but its pointless.
Not at all - he'll never be oblivious to the fat that people smoke, but if's mostly unaware that I do, it's a good start as far as I'm concerned.

southwell 07-10-2008 13:52
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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34649234)
And you're entitled to your opinion. Doesn't mean that it's right though ;)
Yes, but what gives a parent the right to expose their habit to an innocent child who cannot just get up and walk away? (talking about infants here) I can't see how it's fair?

freezin 07-10-2008 13:52
Re: Should smoking in cars carrying children be banned?
 
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Originally Posted by David F (Post 34649205)

I would like to hear reasons off anyone who will actually admit smoking around their kids
I've never smoked. (I wouldn't want you to think I was unwilling to "admit" to it.) :angel:

But I don't think passive smoking should be used to criminalise yet another group. I've already had my kids' head teacher preaching over small bars of chocolate in their lunch boxes. No doubt only approved items will be permissible before long. If the government is really concerned with children's health, it should prevent children's deaths from unarguably abusive parents before it turns its zeal on everyone else.

STONEISLAND 07-10-2008 13:54
Re: Should smoking in cars carrying children be banned?
 
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Originally Posted by southwell (Post 34649230)
Not knowing what kind of long term effect it could have on a child? I think that is selfish.
Dude we are not talking about giving the kid a blow back!!!!!! We are talking about blowing smoke out of a car window. There is no chance at all the child will suffer from ill health from a crafty fag in the car!! :rolleyes:

Selfish :rolleyes:.............not:)

Wicked_and_Crazy 07-10-2008 13:54
Re: Should smoking in cars carrying children be banned?
 
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Originally Posted by Nugget (Post 34649236)
Not at all - he'll never be oblivious to the fat that people smoke, but if's mostly unaware that I do, it's a good start as far as I'm concerned.
My point is that when he discovers you smoke he will think that its acceptable to smoke as long as you do it in secret. Wouldn't you sooner know he had started smoking so that you could try to do something about it?


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