Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

;)

There has been very strong hints floating about the net over the last few days that there are some more trial areas, Dudley was one that was talked about in those conversations. I cannot post links due to the Forums the info was posted on are closed forums.

However they could as is the norm be complete and utter rubbish as some of there past info has been later discovered to be inaccurate and a lot of chinese whispers. Time will tell :)

Personally i think its all a load of rubbish, I am sure we will find out when VM decide to release the information.

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

Actually it has been known (by VM bods) what they were going to charge, for quite some time.

Amusingly, as always, alex denied that STM trials were being run for 50Mbit and denied that it had rolled out at the end of the trial ;)

For most it was blatantly obvious that 50Mbit would not be STM free and wouldnt exactly be a premium product like they apparently say.

But yes, i do have some good sources...and indeed the price has gone down, though not by much and with STM the price/premium just is not going to be worth it, still, some muppets will still sign up for it just for bragging rights, those are the customers who VM want though, people who buy it and never use it :rolleyes:

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There is 2 more trial areas ;)

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

Some people may upgrade just to get the extra upstream bandwidth.

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

What, 1.5Mbit? :D

Which still get's stm'd...would not be worth it :confused:

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

It's more than I can get from any ISP around here, and if you're a heavy uploader, it's still difficult to hit the upload limit.

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

I used BT as its a major isp with millions customers, BE are loss making although a great isp you have to consider without O2 subsidies they probably would be long gone or using similiar measures to BT and co.

Sky I dont mind comparing as a LLU competitor as it has a large customer base and is very favourable to both VM and BT on broadband however is dependent on line length and like BE isnt making money. Indeed £10 is unlimited but the others have caps been enforced now so mentioned it.

I just tried to stop people been misled end of the day, BE is not a typical adsl isp, the typical adsl isp performs and throttles far worse than VM, thats the sad reality.

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

STM in my mind is all related to the BPI/illegal software download issue.

Id like to bet if Virgin are successful in curtailing customers and or facilitating the prosecution of customers dowloading pirated software etc many of the capacity issues would be overcome until such time as a majority of customers are using the internet for TV/pay per view etc related services. What else is going to eat up the bandwidth on an average domestic connection ?

They nominally get round the issues of STM in the contract we all sign but it remains to be seen if it is enforceable.

The upload is a different matter.

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

I'd sooner they started with the cloned modems and freeloaders first, they can worry about what or what is'nt copyrighted afterwards.

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

Never going to happen.

They still make the minimum from the cloners for the phone and free tv, That keeps they connection live and VM see a customer even if they are thieving **** bags who are stealing TV and broadband.

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

Actually, the last set of hits were only stopped due to problems with the DHCP servers, once the upgrades to them are done, cloners will be stopped (encrypted config rollout will be completed, amongst other things)

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

Encrypted like this one.

Config file 4k;fg47gtfd

not a genuine one though

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

Indeed :)

however with the 6GB STM limit on 50Mbit i can see cloners finding a way around it.

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

Actually I thought the STM limit kicked in when the *total* transferred exceeded some arbitrary amount, not just the upload part.

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Both upload and download are tracked and STM'd rate kicks in according to separate thresholds.

Re: VM position 50 meg as "premium"
 

I would what the upload limits on 50Mb will be because with a 1.5Mbit upload wow you can upload so quick