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I find it interesting that more people in Glasgow East voted Tory than Libdem.

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The Lib Dems were in coalition with Labour in Edinburgh until last year and are a little tainted by association.

I think there's also the factor that the Lib Dems receive a lot of disaffected middle-class protest voters who might otherwise go for the Tories. A fall-off in Lib Dem support is probably a good sign for David Cameron's chances of getting the keys to No.10.

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That's what I was thinking :D

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Originally Posted by Chris T
A fall-off in Lib Dem support is probably a good sign for David Cameron's chances of getting the keys to No.10.

First of all he needs to get back his stolen push bike. So that he can get to No.10 :D

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Nah - he'll be supplied with a chauffer-driven bike if he's PM.
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
 

Labour will already have written off the next election pretty much i guess,all parties need a rest from power as the quote goes "all political careers end in failure" As a labour supporter i do not think they have done as bad as many would suggest,after all the credit crunch started in america,under a government of the right. Mr brown could have no control over that.

Also spending on the nhs has gone up to the european average,a fact not recognised by many. Yes inflation is going up fuelled by things which even the bank of england say is beyond them to control. Gordon browns problem is that he is not a natural communicator,like perhaps alan johnson who perhaps will stand when gordon brown steps down. All in all will mr cameron be any better well he was a spin doctor for carlton tv i read. He is a good talker like tony blair. We will have to wait and see what the substance is in 2010,as i suspect he will be elected. will people be any happier answer i suspect not.

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All politicians are at the mercy of events, however they have some degree of freedom to make contingency plans. Sadly, Gordon Brown doesn't seem to have made any contingency plans. He didn't put any money away for a rainy day when the times were good, and so now, with tax receipts falling and the economy in a tailspin, the Government has almost no room to manoeuvre and is forced into making underhand tax-grabs that would make the Sheriff of Nottingham weep (retrospective tax rises on cars, anyone?).

As for spending on the NHS, well it may well have gone up, but what, exactly, have we received in return for this colossal investment?

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Whatever happens at the next election one thing is for sure, by then the working class people who kidded themselves into thinking that they were middle class will be facing reality like never before.
Don't for one minute think that this is all just a temporary blip, goodwill between the money lenders has been betrayed and that wound is going to take many years to heal and in the meantime borrowing money is going to be like it was years ago, hard to impossible for most people, and that's provided that they are able to keep their job when all around are losing theirs.

I remember a few years ago when people I know bought a new car every year, I see them now, still trying to pretend that they are middle class as they drive their V reg Volvo or their S reg BMW, it obviously takes longer for some people before the penny drops, but drop it will.

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I drive a P reg Citroen Xantia. I have a "white collar" technical job, went to university, earn a decent wage.
Does my car mean I'm not middle class?

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No, the fact that you put chip oil in it means you're not... ;)

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:rofl:

Is that the new class test?
Give someone some veg oil.
If they drink it, they're working class, if they pour it in their car, they're middle class, and if they give it to their butler then they're upper class?

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Well the GP's are happy with their new contract. And the Government get all manner of shiny statistics to play around with.

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What's going to change?, (other than another incompetent greedy bunch of hypocrites moving in).

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Not a leading question, but what alternative would you propose?

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While many of us may agree with what you say Enuff we can only work with the system we have and the sooner labour are out the better sadly i think they will do their usual demolition job of the UK before we get shot of them.