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yes, but forgive me if im wrong, taking bt broadband as an example, the packages are:

£17.99-2mb , 1gb cap
£24.99-2mb, 15gb cap
£26.99-2mb, btyahoo 15gb cap
£29.99-2mb, btyahoo 30gb cap

I have read many articles stating that the packages will remain the same, except the speed will just be increased to 8mb. BT will continue to do this whenever faster speeds become availible. So in the autumn, they will have adslmax, and then later on 2006, they PROBABLY will have adsl2+ services in place.

However, i totally agree when you say that id rather have 4mb unlimited services. However, i do think the telewest elite 2mb is quite pricy at the moment, but it is going to increase to 10mb unlimited which at the moment is a great deal, until bulldog and ukonline and eventually BT unveil the faster speeds.

I am keen to know, however, why llu companies like ukonline can offer faster speeds than BT itself?
Thanks. I think we can safely can say that in a few months time the standard broadband speed accross UK wil increase from <2mb to >10mb!

If I am correct, by the time tw have completed the upgrade to 2mb,4mb and 10mb, it will be time for the next upgrade!!
I would also like to voice the opinion that it was a bad idea for tw to drop the £50 p/m package , as it would mean tw loosing the ppl who r prepared to pay that much! Maybe they could have offered something else to fill that package, ie a faster speed or greater upload speed?

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BT speeds are based on what they rollout on the wholestream level for ipstream, these speeds can also be used by all the other isp's selling wholestream services, pipes,plusnet, nildram etc. The difference been between them are probably most likely contention,peering arrangements and cap levels. Ukonline use llu which frees them of the ipstream restriction, BT have always been conservative on what they rollout. The 8mbit also is ADSL whilst 24mbit is ADSL2.

I also have been thinking recently a 8mbit+ with no cap is a bad thing, international traffic I can see taking a big performance hit like it does with sweden's BBB provider, they are an isp good speeds internally and to few countries in eu but to uk and america they are terrible.

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a useful tool for those thinking of 24meg ADSL - check your distance from your exchange as you may not be close enough for top speeds.

http://www.internode.on.net/images/c...2-distance.jpg

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It wouldn't have helped me, 1.93 km as crow from exchange, max speed available after upgrading the wires - 512kbs.
Looking at the chart you wouldn't get the full 24Mbs if you lived in the exchange and the way the graph drops away gives me vertigo :dozey:
Looks like sales of 24Meg Broadband T-Shirts are going to be poor sellers.

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Anyone else hear about Pipex launching 24 meg adsl too? Nobody can deny that Pipex, unlike certain other ISPs, is a major player, so I think this could be one to watch closely... more so than the other vendors I've seen making such announcements recently.

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BE launched their stuff today or yesterday www.bethere.co.uk

it says if i sign up before 18th of sep itll be a £20 service for life, should i risk joining BE?

Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 

The most you stand to lose with Be is £60 (3 months cancellation notice), but you get a modem worth more than that anyway. I'd definately sign up if I could.

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The modem is rented, you don't own it, sorry dude :)

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Ahh thought you owned it, I'd still sign up :p

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wow 3 months offline and you guys are on 24MBit.... meanwhile i am on my niffty 56k haha havent had 4kbyte downloads for years makes you wanna throw pc against wall..... cyprus offer 1MBit for £40.. i think id be very gratefull for even 512kbit atm haha i wonder any speed tests been done on this 24MBit... havent time to wait 5 years for each page to load not sure if any have been shown on this thread? if i ever go back to uk my 8MBit with higher upload should be good last time it was 400k looks like its 700something now says the web site... 24Mbit upload seems bit slow for such high down though id be very happy if that upload was my down right now!!!:mad:

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Ok they have left me no choice but to create a bethere forums.

Please help and sign up so we can get to the bottom of this

I have had countless problems with BETHERE before and after my connection.

i think there so many people having problems with bethere, so i want us to come together to get BETTER SERVICE.

Please go to Link Removed (Neil). Please ask before you spam your website on our forums, thanks.

Re: [Merged] All 24Mb DSL Discussions.
 

Looks like it could be BT's fault, thats what BeThere are saying. .::Read::.

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Erm it actually states that they are having problems with the automated interface between their systems and BTs, they are not blaming BT for all their problems. I can't see the bit where they blame BT for everything that's going wrong at this moment in time :erm:
To me that says that BT have recently updated their end of the interface and now there are teething problems with the orders coming across from Be, it also says that Be caused part of the problem with their name change. If this was totally down to BT I would expect Be to place the blame fully at their doors as it would be a good way of gaining publicity while offloading the complaints from their customers.
This article gives a better picture of the problems (including the BT interface) and also gives an idea why BT have recently spent a lot of money creating a group to handle the LLU situation properly before the regulators lose patience with them ;)

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Sorry your right, I was half asleep when I posted that... which is no excuse! :o:

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Half asleep at that time of day?? Now that's a lay in and a half lol.
Let's face it, it's easy to blame BT as no doubt they were the major part of the problem in the past. They have had to invest heavily in their OpenReach program to deal with the LLU situation and have been left very aware of what will happen if the regulator has to step in again.