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andyl

24-06-2005 17:34

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Can we move on?! ;)

Russ	24-06-2005 17:41

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Good idea - for a start I'll alter the title so it doesn't look like we're discussion the sexuality of ants ;)

andyl

24-06-2005 17:54

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Originally Posted by Russ D

Good idea - for a start I'll alter the title so it doesn't look like we're discussion the sexuality of ants ;)

Put a hyphen in coop while you're at it! I don't know, these bl**dy slap-dash posters. If I had my way I'd insist that those that commit such errors be made to go to the pub right now and drink Guinness to atone.

I'll get me coat (quite literally!). :D

Shaun

24-06-2005 19:07

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Originally Posted by andyl

I'll get me coat (quite literally!). :D

See you down there mate, mines a bitter. ;)

Paddy1

25-06-2005 01:44

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Originally Posted by whyme38

I suppose that they should be admired for putting principals before profit

Is it though? Or is it a business decision specifically aimed at attracting the "pink pound"?

Russ	25-06-2005 09:55

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Originally Posted by Paddy1

Is it though? Or is it a business decision specifically aimed at attracting the "pink pound"?

I don't think it's a case of attracting the 'pink pound', more like the 'pc pound'.

greencreeper

25-06-2005 11:47

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Religion is one thing - Christian Voice is something far more ugly. Like Catholicism, it's fundamentalism at it's worst. Supporting such organisations is no different from supporting terrorism. The Co-Op acted in a socially responsible and moral way.

Russ	25-06-2005 12:43

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Originally Posted by greencreeper

Supporting such organisations is no different from supporting terrorism. The Co-Op acted in a socially responsible and moral way.

More like in a "scoring PC points way".

I'm no part of CV but I take slight offence at you saying they are no different from terrorists. I don't hear of CV blowing up buildings, killing people or holding people hostage, do you?

punky

25-06-2005 12:45

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I'm no part of CV but I take slight offence at you saying they are no different from terrorists. I don't hear of CV blowing up buildings, killing people or holding people hostage, do you?

Maybe not CV, but plenty of their ilk blow up abortion clinics and attack doctors, etc. There are terrorists who are rapped up in a fundamental christian guise. Totally unacceptable, especially in the name of religion.

Graham

25-06-2005 12:52

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Originally Posted by punky

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Originally Posted by Russ D

I'm no part of CV but I take slight offence at you saying they are no different from terrorists. I don't hear of CV blowing up buildings, killing people or holding people hostage, do you?

Ok, I'm not a mod, but *TIME OUT* guys...!

Please, we've had enough of this in other threads, we don't need to drag it all up again in here! :Peaceman:

andyl

25-06-2005 12:57

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Could I just pipe up with a wee complaint? :erm: Attacking arguments by crying "politically correct" or "the PC brigade" is intellectually vaccuous. Can we have an intelligent discourse or I'll start on about hangers and floggers ;)

greencreeper

25-06-2005 13:08

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I'm no part of CV but I take slight offence at you saying they are no different from terrorists. I don't hear of CV blowing up buildings, killing people or holding people hostage, do you?

Well terrorism isn't really any of those things - it's the fear of those things. I was highlighting that fundamentalist organisations, such as the CV and Catholicism, both affect lives in a negative way. To be honest, I think CV et al are far more damaging.

Raistlin

25-06-2005 13:11

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Originally Posted by Graham

Ok, I'm not a mod, but *TIME OUT* guys...!

Please, we've had enough of this in other threads, we don't need to drag it all up again in here! :Peaceman:

OMFG!!! I never thought I'd see that!!! The end of the world cometh!!! :D

Seriously, Graham's spot on here guys. This is another of those threads where people seem to be choosing their words rather carelessly (I am giving the benefit of the doubt, obviously).

Yes, this is an issue which many people will feel strongly about but that doesn't mean that we can't discuss it sensibly. Instead of attacking eachothers point of view we should try to explain our own with clarity.

punky

25-06-2005 13:14

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For my part, I am sorry if my post appeared inflammatory. It was never meant like that. It was only to provide evidence of what I thought GC was about, but it seems I missed his point by quite a margin anyway.

andyl

25-06-2005 14:28

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Originally Posted by andyl

"The Co-operative Bank has asked an evangelical Christian group to close its account because of its anti-homosexual views.
The bank said the opinions of Christian Voice were incompatible with its support for diversity." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4617849.stm

An interesting one. Whilst I share the Co-op's consternation at CV's views I'm not entirely sure about refusing to let them hold an account. I say this purely because there is an issue about where organisations draw the line. On the other hand the Co-op does make a good point about supporting diversity within its workplace and elsewhwere. Equally CV raise a valid point regarding where this leaves other religious groups with similarly homophobic views which, rightly or wrongly, are grounded in their interpretation of their religion.

So I need some help making my mind up on this one! ;)

Just a reminder of the subject up for discussion ;)

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