Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

It's late, and I'm feeling generous!!

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

Well, they havnt delivered yet! not on speed,spam,email,news or even a plain TCP link! my 512 ADSL link is still faster than my so called '1Meg' from ntl.

Enjoy paying for your new service level, I'll enjoy watching you do it.
:D
ps:this is meant to be a friendly post, I didnt get it for four years either!

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

I agree - you never really understand how good sky + is until you've got it.


I disagree - there's a lot of ADSL products out there that beat it on price and also because ADSL offers 256 upload speed rather than 128.

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

Although I'm seriously thingking of moving to Sky+, I'm certainly leaving the BB with NTL, it works well around Hertford enough of the time (all networks have some problems) and the 750k will be a nice bonus. Better still would be 256 the other way, but with the resdesign of the website uploads will be lighter and fewer as it will be mainly modifying the product database.

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

You sure about that.....?

Bulldog do a 2MB package for £34.99 per month (£3.00 less than ntl's 1MB ('soon' to be 1.5MB) offering.

http://www.bulldogdsl.com/residentia.../primetime.asp

Central Point offer a 2MB service for £34.99-with all of the following feature included.....

http://www.cpbb.co.uk/

When you consider that you will be paying £38.00 for a 1MB 'service' with (by your own admission) poor email/news servers/spam issues, it doesn't seem quite so 'unbeatable' does it.....? ;)

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

Neil,

I guess you have not used the bulldog services then?

You cant compare something just on face value. Bulldog uses BT's Datastream which suffer from very slow speeds.

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

We have 3 Set top boxes, we will soon have a 4th so I don't see the point in sky+.

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

but with sky+ you can record digitally , not onto some grotty old vhs tape :erm: , mind you if you can afford 4 boxes a month money cant be too much of a problem :D :D :D

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

We got a DVD recorder :P

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

aint it funny , i am not surprised :zzz: ;) :D

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

Exactly a piece of kit which will work with $ky NTL freeview, FTA digital sat from any bird in the sky, and even good old analogue

While those suckered into Sky+ are stuck recording just what Rupert lets them

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

So what exactly can you see on ..... NTL freeview, FTA digital sat from any bird in the sky, and even good old analogue... that you cannot get on Sky?

And also (this being the crucial thing for me) ..... how do you tape 1 Digital Channel for NTL (i.e. Horror Channel), and also tape or view another digital channel (i.e. Motors TV) - whoops, probably bad examples, as NTL don;t have either!

lemarsh (ignore the channels part, cheap shot when we are currently talking pros and cons of DVD Recorders v SKY+, not the additional channels on Sky) ;)

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

Leemarsh - my comment re freeview- ntl sky fta sat etc was about:-
1)picture quality- not numbers of channel ie on the same tv there is no difference between the different platforms (contary to some daft posts here.

2) A VCR / PVR/Pc can record off any of these sources- Sky+ can only record off sky

Therefore sky + is propriatory rubbish to be avoided at all costs.

Clearly to tape 2 ntl sources you need 2 ntl boxes and 2 recorders

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

mdean, have you ever had Sky+ in your home and used it for a while in order to judge its performance and features?

There is a difference in quality between the various platforms and my experience is that NTL is the worst of them, particularly in hot weather. Others may have different experiences with the various systems but having tried them all I know which I prefer.

If you want decent quality recordings then Sky+ gives you recordings of the same quality as the original transmissions. Do your solutions do this? VCR recordings are of a much lower quality than Sky+ recordings but if you are satisfied with less than the best take that route.

Sky+ may only be usable on Sky but as Sky is the best platform (in my opinion) the that is no problem.

Re: Why ntl and not sky?
 

yes and not only that your dvd recorder or hard disk recorder needs a program guide and some way of changing the channels on your NTL box when it wants to start a recording off.

this is where sky + beats it - its recording facilities are fully integrated within the existing sky program guide.

last time I looked at DVD recorders, quite a few didnt even have program guides.