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zendawn 29-04-2004 18:11

Re: Gays overreacting/looking for trouble?
 
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Originally Posted by Russ D
Well seeing as they're not (usually) on show, I'm sure it's not really an issue....

If earings are a safety issue, then c*ck and nipples rings are just as much at risk of being pulled out.

kronas 29-04-2004 18:43

Re: Gays overreacting/looking for trouble?
 
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Originally Posted by zendawn
If earings are a safety issue, then c*ck and nipples rings are just as much at risk of being pulled out.

they proberbly have not thought about 'internal' aspects of piercing your 'bits'

should it be any of there business........not really only externally it should be. :erm:

zendawn 29-04-2004 19:09

Re: Gays overreacting/looking for trouble?
 
Anyway I object to the title of this thread.

'Gays over reacting / Looking for trouble' is imflamtory(sp?) at best and homophobia at worst.
If you've had to fight against discriminations and abuse all your life, your bound to be sensitive to any form of discrimination that comes along. If people whose personal identity is defined by their sexuality, wanna group together and fight for a right that other people grouped by gender have, then I see no reason why they shouldnt fight for that right.
After all people who are groupped together by a religious belief (ie sikhism) have fought for the right to wear turbans without fear of being called trouble makers.

Russ 29-04-2004 19:15

Re: Gays overreacting/looking for trouble?
 
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Originally Posted by zendawn
Anyway I object to the title of this thread.

'Gays over reacting / Looking for trouble' is imflamtory(sp?) at best and homophobia at worst.

No, I don't accept that for one moment. Notice there's a question mark at the end of the title - I'm asking if you think they are overreacting and/or looking for trouble, you are then invited to give your views. If the title was a statement then what you say may have some foundation - of course I'm not homophobic

zendawn 29-04-2004 19:23

Re: Gays overreacting/looking for trouble?
 
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Originally Posted by Russ D
No, I don't accept that for one moment. Notice there's a question mark at the end of the title - I'm asking if you think they are overreacting and/or looking for trouble, you are then invited to give your views. If the title was a statement then what you say may have some foundation - of course I'm not homophobic

Ahh the old 'it's only a question' excuse!! :)

Just add a question mark and any phobia/ism is instantly removed.

It's easy to see from any of your posts on the subject of homosexuality that your against it. Of course you'll say that isn't the same as being homophobic.
But in the end it's because of their sexuality that you made a difference and not because of anything else.

punky 29-04-2004 19:25

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To the guy that said it is safer in a fight, etc: If earrings are too dangerous for police officers to wear, how comes WPCs can have them, but PCs can't? I don't think its fair to say that WPCs don't get stuck in. Although they like the backup of a male PC, they still get on with it.

Russ 29-04-2004 19:39

Re: Gays overreacting/looking for trouble?
 
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Originally Posted by zendawn
Ahh the old 'it's only a question' excuse!! :)

Just add a question mark and any phobia/ism is instantly removed.

It's easy to see from any of your posts on the subject of homosexuality that your against it. Of course you'll say that isn't the same as being homophobic.
But in the end it's because of their sexuality that you made a difference and not because of anything else.

:rolleyes:

Ok, whatever, if you say so etc.

Show me one of my posts that shows I'm "against" homosexuality. Or maybe you're just assuming that because I'm a Christian?

Any of the forums' resident homosexuals want to agree with zendawn that I'm homophobic?

Maggy 29-04-2004 19:49

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Well my ghast is flabbered.Not only are the police looking more and more like 12 year olds dressed up in fancy dress,now they want to be like everyone else.I suppose it would be ok to have pierced noses,eyebrows and what ever other part of the anatomy(oooch!) they choose,for the sake of undercover work but to demand it as a right!

I wonder why they become police if they have to cavil over whether they can wear jewellery.Anyway if I remember rightly there was a time when EVEN police women couldn't wear jewellery.The job isn't about looking good(not that I think a nose pierciing is attractive)it's about catching villians and protecting the public.How can you do that if the thugs only have to rip piercings from a police persons body to disable them.
It's becoming a crazy world where 'rights' sometimes take precedence over common sense.

Incog. :shrug:

Paul 29-04-2004 19:50

Re: Gays overreacting/looking for trouble?
 
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Originally Posted by zendawn
'Gays over reacting / Looking for trouble' is imflamtory(sp?) at best and homophobia at worst.

The article was about gays reacting to an earring ban wasn't it ? - Russ was asking they were over reacting - hence the title. You seem to be over reacting to the title. :)

zendawn 29-04-2004 20:07

Re: Gays overreacting/looking for trouble?
 
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Originally Posted by Pem
The article was about gays reacting to an earring ban wasn't it ? - Russ was asking they were over reacting - hence the title. You seem to be over reacting to the title. :)

The title says 'OVER' reacting and 'trouble' showing the bias of the original poster. Plus the 'word' reaction does not appear in the articles title, and altho it does appear in the body of the article, to use the word react is again bias.
Just as many lesbians fight for feminist isssues so do alot of gay men fight for mens issues.
Your post claiming the 'gay community is whinging' shows the same level of bias too.
If you wanna be homophobic please go ahead and show your true colours, I for one will not be offended its hidden homophobia im against, causes more damage than outright hatred.

Maggy 29-04-2004 20:15

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Eh?Sorry but that does not quite make sense.If overreacting is in the title it follows that reacting is in the title and I'm not sure what you were trying to say in that sentence because I've got even more confused since I started typing this reply.
How did you come up with with the idea that to use the word react is to show bias?One may react against bias as well as to show bias..

How about calming down and retyping what you were trying to say so this thicko understands?

Incog.

zendawn 29-04-2004 20:23

Re: Gays overreacting/looking for trouble?
 
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
Eh?Sorry but that does not quite make sense.If overreacting is in the title it follows that reacting is in the title and I'm not sure what you were trying to say in that sentence because I've got even more confused since I started typing this reply.
How did you come up with with the idea that to use the word react is to show bias?One may react against bias as well as to show bias..

How about calming down and retyping what you were trying to say so this thicko understands?

Incog.

I'm sure people who are not biased will understand my point.
There is no emotion involved in the typing of that sentance so there is no need to 'clam down'. The sentance structure is poor because my grammar is poor.

'Over reacting' is NOT in the tiltle of the ORIGINAL article and nor is it implied anywhere in the article body.

zendawn 29-04-2004 20:32

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It is not 'gays' that are taking issue with this rule, but a gay, lesbian and bisexual support association, fighting against discrimination in general.
Apart from the obvious physical differences between men and women, there should be no difference in the way genders are treated, as a principle. So if women can wear jewelry then so should men.
I also think that non sikhs should be able to wear turbans if they so desire.

Maggy 29-04-2004 20:33

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So because I didn't understand your syntax I'm biased against gays?That doesn't even make sense.

Xaccers 29-04-2004 20:38

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Originally Posted by danielf
Perhaps all gay police men should grow a moustache instead? :shrug:

Young man....


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