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mcmanic 26-04-2004 11:39

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
i ask cos with telewest there not increasing it for STB owners,so i would guess that NTL would follow suit,if thats the case their should be a reduction in price because you cannot have STB owners on 1 meg and cable users on 1.5 at the same price surely,after all its not the STB owners fault

dremmel 26-04-2004 11:41

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobydoo[uk]
Whats the difference for STB owners?, ive read a few posts on here, people asking if the speed increase is going to be implemented for STB owners.

I would of thought so, I cant see any difference for us STB peeps..

Can anyone confirm this?.

IMU its all down to the config file sent to the 'modem', be it SACM or the STB, so if and when the 'magic happens' all NTL will do is send out a new bronze/silver/gold config file at the next DHCP renew request with all the needed info to allow for the 'new' and [sarcasm] FREE [/sarcasm] speed update

Nikko 26-04-2004 11:42

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Am I the only one to think this is actually good news?

Everyone whinges when the price of 1 out of 3 service levels got a modest increase for the first time in ages - and complain ntl do nothing to justify it. When ntl DO do something positive everyone still manages to concentrate on percieved negatives!

I accepted the £3 rise on 1MB as being reasonably in line with general price rises - so to get a 50% speed hike FREE sounds good to me!

If beer went up from £3.50 a litre to £3.80, and then suddenly you got a 1.5 litre glass for the same price would you moan?

mcmanic 26-04-2004 11:44

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Due to technical limitations, upgrade will not apply to 1Mb customers receiving service via TV set-top box

thats on the telewest site,so i presume NTL will be the same techical limitations.....i hope not,otherwise NTL are just forgetting us mere mortal STB owners

Enterian 26-04-2004 11:44

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikko
Am I the only one to think this is actually good news?

Everyone whinges when the price of 1 out of 3 service levels got a modest increase for the first time in ages - and complain ntl do nothing to justify it. When ntl DO do something positive everyone still manages to concentrate on percieved negatives!

I accepted the £3 rise on 1MB as being reasonably in line with general price rises - so to get a 50% speed hike FREE sounds good to me!

If beer went up from £3.50 a litre to £3.80, and then suddenly you got a 1.5 litre glass for the same price would you moan?

I'm a STB user - if I get it i'll be happy, however if SACM users get it and I don't and we all end-up paying the same I shall be seriously pi$$ed off!

Chris 26-04-2004 11:45

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Originally Posted by Enterian
Agreed that TW are not a competitor but the "NTL are increasing prices whilst TW are increasing speeds" scenario was not going to get them any good publicity, and was likely to put Aizad under some pressure!

Can the NTL infrastructure provide 3 meg?

Cable broadband can provide speeds well in excess of 3 meg. However, without knowing the technical details of all this, I would imagine they would have to lower the contention ratio so that fewer subscribers are sharing the same chunk of bandwidth. If they did not, 3 meg users would fairly quickly notice they were not getting the bandwidth they have paid for.

I know that there are costs for ntl if they lower contention ratios, but someone else will have to explain how that works.

Tech_Boy 26-04-2004 11:46

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AFAIK stb's are a bit flakey when you get up to 1 meg, so if you want the top speed go for a sacm.

dremmel 26-04-2004 11:46

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikko
If beer went up from £3.50 a litre to £3.80, and then suddenly you got a 1.5 litre glass for the same price would you moan?

NTL selling beer, the mind boggles at the thought,

"Sorry Sir, we don't know when the dray will appear, but it will be coming shortly"

Stephen 26-04-2004 11:48

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When will this upgrd happen? am in CS and not heard of this till just now!!!

Derek 26-04-2004 11:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthYoda
When will this upgrd happen? am in CS and not heard of this till just now!!!

Front page of intranet has all the details you need.

Chris 26-04-2004 11:51

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikko
Am I the only one to think this is actually good news?

Everyone whinges when the price of 1 out of 3 service levels got a modest increase for the first time in ages - and complain ntl do nothing to justify it. When ntl DO do something positive everyone still manages to concentrate on percieved negatives!

I accepted the £3 rise on 1MB as being reasonably in line with general price rises - so to get a 50% speed hike FREE sounds good to me!

If beer went up from £3.50 a litre to £3.80, and then suddenly you got a 1.5 litre glass for the same price would you moan?

It is good news, but don't kid yourself that you are getting a free upgrade on the 1mb service.

For a start, the price increase was about 8.6%. Inflation in the UK is currently below 2%. The increase was nothing short of huge. Secondly, is it a coincidence that they increase the price one month, then trumpet a 'free' speed increase the next? I think not. You are not being given anything for free, you are being forced to accept an upgrade for which you are paying.

The reasons they have done this are entirely for PR, I concede, because 1.5mb for £37.99 is still better value than 1mb for £34.99. But it's not as good as 1.5mb for £34.99.

dremmel 26-04-2004 11:53

Re: [Merged] NTL Increasing BB Speeds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthYoda
When will this upgrd happen? am in CS and not heard of this till just now!!!

The new speeds are being rolled out across the ntl cable network to existing and new customers. Customers will receive communication in advance of the speed increase.

from http://www.ntl.com/mediacentre/press/display.asp?id=702

so from the wording it would appear that the upgrade is already undeway. My bold

mcmanic 26-04-2004 11:54

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ok,if STB are flakey and your in a ex C&W area where they don't give you a cable modem UNLESS you have a problem via STB with your 1 meg service (like i did and now have a cable modem),will NTL send out cable modems to these people or will they be forced to pay the same as those on 1.5 meg if no-one is any wiser and don't mention it,do you see my point?

macstevejb 26-04-2004 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech_Boy
AFAIK stb's are a bit flakey when you get up to 1 meg, so if you want the top speed go for a sacm.

well if that's the case I can see a whole host of subscribers wanting SACM's for the increaded BB speeds in addition to their STB's which they will retain for digi tv use only.

andygrif 26-04-2004 11:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dremmel
The new speeds are being rolled out across the ntl cable network to existing and new customers. Customers will receive communication in advance of the speed increase.

Indeed...it is 'coming soon' ;)


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