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roughbeast 13-09-2018 12:41

Re: Best Router to Use with Home Hub 3
 
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35963015)
So, as an example, atm you are using vm's dns servers and if you go to a command prompt (windows key, cmd, enter) and type "nslookup" and hit enter you'll see the ip address of vm's dns server you are currently using. When you override that on your router when all the clients on your network retrieve their configuration information from your router by dhcp they'll get an ip address, the default gateway (the lan address of your router) and whatever dns server you specify and that will apply to all your pc's, tablets, phones, TV's etc so it is well worth doing. This is what happens when you change it so you know it is working properly.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/09/7.jpg

A small word of caution. The General is absolutely correct in what he says about the benefits and ease of changing DNS to a better server than VM offer. However, when you use the 'nslookup' command on your PC, you might not get a confirmation that you are now using the 8.8.8.8 IP, for example. What you may get is something like this:

Server: router.asus.com
Address: 192.168.1.1

This is, of course, the default IP for your router that all your devices use as a gateway.

This does not mean that you aren't using your chosen DNS server, its just that your device isn't registering it.

jay152 13-09-2018 20:26

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Thanks roughbeast

General Maximus 14-09-2018 20:35

Re: Best Router to Use with Home Hub 3
 
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Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35963083)
What you may get is something like this:

Server: router.asus.com
Address: 192.168.1.1

why? you are querying the dns server and not the default gateway. I have never heard of that happening.

Another way to check then which is a more bloviated way of doing it is this way:

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/09/8.jpg

You don't need to get your nickers in a twist over it, both methods are diagnostic tools which you'll probably never have to use. The only time you would want to check/confirm which dns server you are using is if you start having problems or error messages pop up, you have checked the router config and you want to make sure your client is receiving the correct info via dhcp. If there is an issue with the dns server you can then change it to an alternate on the router to bypass the problem. The problem is though, and the whole point of this discussion anyway, is that you cant do it on the shub and although you can do it on proper routers, if you use a proper dns server like google's to start off with you should never have to change it because it never breaks. I only showed you how to do just so you know there is a way of checking it rather than just closing your eyes and keeping your fingers crossed that it is magically working.

roughbeast 15-09-2018 10:18

Re: Best Router to Use with Home Hub 3
 
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35963213)
why? you are querying the dns server and not the default gateway. I have never heard of that happening......... I only showed you how to do just so you know there is a way of checking it rather than just closing your eyes and keeping your fingers crossed that it is magically working.

It surprised me too, but that is the result I consistently get with the nslookup command.

Server: router.asus.com
Address: 192.168.1.1

I checked this out and found someone else querying that result. https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2716336

It's no problem. I never usually look up my dns either. I just wanted Jay to know that he might not get confirmation of his new dns through nslookup.

ipconfig /all gets the same result

General Maximus 15-09-2018 11:53

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I understand, just another awesome feature of Asus router's which I didn't know about.

Just so everyone understands, the router acts as a dns cache server and caches dns queries so if another devices on the lan went to www.bbc.co.uk, when you want to go to it as well the router doesn't have to fire off a request over the internet to the dns server to look up the ip address because it already knows what the address is and thus the whole process is sped up. Sweeeeeeet :)

roughbeast 15-09-2018 15:21

Re: Best Router to Use with Home Hub 3
 
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35963253)
I understand, just another awesome feature of Asus router's which I didn't know about.

Just so everyone understands, the router acts as a dns cache server and caches dns queries so if another devices on the lan went to www.bbc.co.uk, when you want to go to it as well the router doesn't have to fire off a request over the internet to the dns server to look up the ip address because it already knows what the address is and thus the whole process is sped up. Sweeeeeeet :)


Brilliant isn't it? I'm learning all the time and I've had this router for a year now.

Kushan 17-09-2018 13:31

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35963253)
I understand, just another awesome feature of Asus router's which I didn't know about.

Just so everyone understands, the router acts as a dns cache server and caches dns queries so if another devices on the lan went to www.bbc.co.uk, when you want to go to it as well the router doesn't have to fire off a request over the internet to the dns server to look up the ip address because it already knows what the address is and thus the whole process is sped up. Sweeeeeeet :)

Yup, I think quite a lot of routers do this these days but it's certainly a great feature.

Hom3r 17-09-2018 23:52

I don't believe this but after many years my Asus RT-N66U has died.

So no home automation or Alexa.

Reading this I'm looking at the Asus RT-AC88U to replace it.

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Just had a idea I turned off the router via it's power switch and it turned off but the switch wont go back on

General Maximus 18-09-2018 08:10

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35963441)
Reading this I'm looking at the Asus RT-AC88U to replace it

:tu:

Hom3r 18-09-2018 19:08

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I have found out the switch on my RT-N66U is busted, but a bit of card a duct tape has solved it.

But I will replace it with the RT-AC66U.

I'll see if my brother in-law can fix it then he can have it.

General Maximus 18-09-2018 19:29

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Sometimes it is nice just to have the updated technology with the better wifi and wan to lan throughput

Hom3r 18-09-2018 19:39

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The spring in the routher is stronger than bloody duct tape.

Just had to near wrap the dam thing, in it :D

copernob 18-09-2018 22:27

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I'm going to buy the Asus RT-AC68U this week. My Shrub3 is dropping Wi-Fi like dead flys for some reason..Been good until 2 months ago. Got my TP-Link power plugs attached to it but it's dropping out all the time throughout the house. Even 6 inches away from it. Even my Epson Printer drops Wi-Fi n its less than 6ft away...Not sure if it is Virgins fault, Router fault or TP-Link fault. Done my head in lol.. Good Info in here, but whether I can follow it remains to be seen lol. Cheers..

roughbeast 19-09-2018 07:51

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Originally Posted by copernob (Post 35963540)
I'm going to buy the Asus RT-AC68U this week. My Shrub3 is dropping Wi-Fi like dead flys for some reason..Been good until 2 months ago. Got my TP-Link power plugs attached to it but it's dropping out all the time throughout the house. Even 6 inches away from it. Even my Epson Printer drops Wi-Fi n its less than 6ft away...Not sure if it is Virgins fault, Router fault or TP-Link fault. Done my head in lol.. Good Info in here, but whether I can follow it remains to be seen lol. Cheers..

All you need to do is ask here again.

Setting up the AC68U and AC88U for ordinary everyday functioning is really easy. Use the quick internet set up. You can do the trickier operations at your leisure later, according to your needs.

General Maximus 19-09-2018 09:07

Re: Best Router to Use with Home Hub 3
 
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Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35963554)
Use the quick internet set up.

what does it do? I plugged mine in, typed in the ip address for the gui and configured everything myself, it isn't hard.


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