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Apologies if this has been posted, but I can't find it.. You need Powerpoint to view it, and make sure you check it with a virus scanner first.

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I don't think Poll will be doing much more refereeing this World Cup. Imagine Simunic scoring the winner...

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What was Poll up to? Three yellow cards to the same player - hilarious. I think he'll be on the next plane home.
Well done to the Aussies mind.

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Yeah, a spirited display from the Aussies. Well done!

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In the abscence of strikers I think sven's going to have to go radical in the next match, how about 4-6-0? :)

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We have capable midfielders though ;)

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That was a class match.

I was watching it (I kind of support Croatia after England) and i thought... oh no not 9 men... and then realised Poll hadn't actually sent him off despite showing him the 2nd yellow. Simunic was walkin off and Kovac stopped him and he went back on :LOL:

Before arguing with Poll who had probably realised (after play has resumed, the ref has finalised his decisions) in the last minute after a disallowed goal (for Aus) and getting his 3rd yellow card (and red).

Would have been funny if he'd scored the winner.

Anyway, 7 Aussie squad members have Croatian ancestry and 3 Croats (Simunic, Seric and Didulica - reserve keeper) were born in Aus. Sweet...

To be fair, I think the match should be void because a player was not sent off and should have been. (Not because it gives Croatia a 2nd chance lol)

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Oh and I forgot. Leicester REJECT Kalac's "goalkeeping" :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

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heard about this but not seen any video of Poll doing both bookings but saw the one after the final whistle.. are we sure he booked the bloke the first time.. usually when you get booked a second time you walk off before you even get the red card shown

just checked the FIFA match report

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/...te.html?id=44+

click on the PDF and it shows the bloke was only booked once before and then sent off after the match

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It looks like it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...06/5108722.stm

Also, at some point the commentators were saying that their monitors (with the official FIFA stats) showed an earlier yellow for Simunic (who showed have been sent off in the earlier Aussie penalty appeal anyway).

Edit: Just saw your edit. I didn't see the first half, so I can't be sure. However, I wouldn't put it past FIFA to not include an earlier booking in the match report in order to save face.

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I watched the game. He was booked twice, 61 and 87/88, then not sent off, then booked 93 and shown the red.

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Has anyone noticed that in every game, there is a close-up of the match ball?

Also, why is Barthez not wearing, in the Togo - France match, his customary black top for?

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you'll probably find that Adidas have that in their contract with FIFA plus each ball as the teams and time of kick off on the ball so i think the directors like to show that off or are told to do that

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There's some controversy over Switzerland's second goal. A Switzerland player passes it to another player, who is deemed offside by the linesman (the flag is up). A Korean player however, has touched the ball before it reaches the player in offside position. That player scores, and the referee awards the goal. This is all in the final third, so there is not a lot of space.

Should it stand or not? I would think that when the ball is passed to a player in offside position and the flag goes up, play should stop at that point, and the Korea player touching the ball is irrelevant. The decision is about the moment the ball leaves the passer's foot. Not what happens after that.

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As the original pass was a square ball it looked to me as if the linesman thought a Swiss player passed to Frei rather than it coming off a Korean.
Anyway, Frei was onside when the original ball was played. Good decision by the ref.


FIFA's new idea is that a player should only be flagged offside when he receives the ball.

As the expression goes, play to the whistle.

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but preferably the ref's whistle and not the fan's like in one of the other games

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mark bright says "he(podolski) just chests it down in the box. he shouldn't get that much space"

there's a reason why he had that much space - he was offside you moron

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i thought telling the ref to send players off was a bookable offense? granted, he should've been sent off, but still...

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i'm not quite sure why he brought pablo aimar on.

or how scaloni manages to make it into any team

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What a great game the Argentina v Mexico game is. Mexico have given it a good go, especially after the way they played in the group.

Argentina should not have had that goal disallowed though.

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What a goal there from Rodriguez

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don't the commentators realise how dumb they sound? castro was booked for kicking the ball away, it had nothing to do with the foul that torrado was NOT going to be booked for

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What a game! Argentina the deserved winners, given that Heinze was allowed to stay on the pitch. I wasn't very impressed with Mexico during the group stages, but they sure turned up tonight. The match of the tournament so far...

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Yes it was a fantastic game, Argentina deserved the win in the end.
Riquelme was pure class once again !
I have a feeling the Germans won't be looking forward to their next game.

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The Germans had also improved from their group games as well. It should be an interesting match.

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True, but then again. Sweden were sh1te.

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True about Sweden. I don't think that the Germans will be a walk over though.

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Nope, the Germans are never a walkover. I do fancy Argentina for that match though.

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Great game between Argentina and Mexico. :tu:

Mexico did not perform that well in the group stages, but they did look quite lively in their final game against Portugal. So you could argue that they were in the ascendancy, having said that, I still didn't think they would cause the Argentinians as many problems as they did. What Mexico did do well, was to press the Argentina players when they had the ball. If you stand off Argentina, they will hammer you with their passing. The Germans will definately have picked up on that, and with the home support behind them, they will do that for sure. It should be a cracking game.

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Sounds like I missed a good game, I saw the Germany- Sweden game and thought they looked good, it's not their fault Sweden did not turn up, I think it's a shame that this game should have been Henrick Larrson's last on the big stage, he deserved better

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Argentina v Mexico was a cracking game.

Nice to see the England fans behaving as normal - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5112364.stm

:D

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didn't see all of it but i wasn't that impressed with Argentina from what i saw

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I have tipped Argentina since the start but I think they will be in for a tough game and it would not surprise me if they lost, in fact I think the winners of this game will win the whole thing.

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was i the only one who noticed, that, while 50 minutes of the game was great, almost all of the second half and extra time was really boring?

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I did not see all of it, the Germany- Sweden match just petered out also, once they got that Swedish chap sent of

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MUCH better performance by England so far!

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Yes very impressive :erm:

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But where are all the goals? :shrug: :dunce: :D

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That minxster Becks hasn't let us down and I'm even more happy as I had him down as the first goal scorer :woot:

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Probably lose in the semi-final to Brazil, if I've worked it out right.

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Did they edit out Becks puking?

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yes

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Becks relieved himself in front 70000 people, and we missed it
Poor Rattcliffe wanted to do her number twos in public during a marathon race.... and the camera was doing close ups of her bum, she fainted in the end.

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so far, after all the praise he is getting, i'm not th eleast bit impresse dwith kuyt. let's ignore the fact that 20 goals a season in the dutch league is not an impressive achievement and go straight to how damn whiny he is.

hope portugal win

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Possible now? Now they are down to ten men?

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Apparently the Equadorian players were offered a herd of cows each by their president if they beat England, bit of bad luck for them then really :erm:, still kind of puts things in perspective, multi millionaires offered thousands to win versus people playing for cows, if they had been playing anyone else I'd have been rooting for them!

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dunno really, i found him taking off pauleta for petit to be more intriguing than anything else.

guess we'll have to see how it develops

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sorry, but this ref hasn't got a ****ing clue what he is doing. maybe he can catch the same plane as graham poll

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I think the ref has lost it in the Holland - Portugal match

15 Yellow & 3 Red cards so far

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At least we know he`s not colour blind.............. Just ****ing stupid. :( :confused:

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i was very impressed with miguel, and was devastated when he didn't score

i dunno, looking at some of the incidents that only got a booking...

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That ref makes Poll look good lol

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Ah Well, Holland go out 1.0.!.
How many cards did the ref show in the end?

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Over 25 wasn't it? ;)
Full list here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...06/5103886.stm

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:Yikes: unbelieveable!!!!

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Apalling, both teams and the referee should be bought to book by FIFA

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Good news for England, no Deco and Costinha :D

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16 Yellow 4 Red for a total of 25 fouls

The ref should be sacked he has ruined what could have been one of the best matches of this World Cup

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Just cottoned on! 25 cards.!!! :dunce: :dunce: :D
I have been awake nearly 18 hours though. Cheers Paul. Owned.:disturbd: :tu:

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Well what an entertaining match that was. :D

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LOL sometimes typos are the best response :rofl:

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while the ref was truly awful, i think the players did a good job of ruining the game themselves

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the thing is, i don't mind teams going on a rampage and killing each other(man utd of the 90s/early 2000s were brilliant at this), but only for a minute or so.

going beserk for 90 minutes though...

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They certainly did not help, in fact they played into his hands with some of their antics but at the end of the day the buck stops with him, card happy or what, makes me wonder how many need to be sent of for a match to be declared void these days?

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16 cards for 25 fouls. What a complete prat. He was not in control of the game. Sure the players are to blame as well, but he invited it. This man should never ref a match at a major tournament again.

Oh, I thought Portugal were the better side, for the 45 minutes where you could tell. Shame this idiot deprived us of their chance to show it (for the remainder of the tournament).

Moron...

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If FIFA view the video and spot Figo's headbut he may have to sit out the next game as well.

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Looks like Ronaldo might be out to

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Not true. He got a yellow for that, so he can't be penalised again.

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Not according to the Beeb........

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nd/5088360.stm

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hmm, according to ITV he can't because he was shown a yellow for it. Anyway, I thought it hardly qualified as a headbut. More like a gentle nudge. I doubt Cocu even felt it. He should have been sent off for his acting that got Bouhlarouz sent off...

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this isn't the first time we've seen portugal totally lose the plot. anyone remember euro 2000?

fifa can extend the punishment - see de rossi getting 4 matches instead of 3 for evidence.

cocu probably didn't. van bommel on the otherhand...:)

didn't see much acting to get khalid sent off. did see khalid intentionally hit him in the face though.

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only just had time to post

i thought England were poor.. we all know Rooney isn't a lone striker and doesn't really hold up the ball that well.. he is far better when the play is in front of him and he comes into it abit like Gerrard when he does well with liverpool

thought most of England played badly and not sure how they picked someone out for man of the match as i never saw anyone stand out

Germany didn't play great in the group stages but they used the same system the whole time and then when they had to they played better against Sweden, something we couldn't do.

We were still poor and had about one shot on target from a free kick.. Ecuador caused us a few problems so what will Portugal do

The ref in the Portugal \ Holland game didn't have a clue and shouldn't have been there at this level.. he spoilt a great game and if i was the Holland FA i would be demanding a reply.. as soon as the players started to realise he would book everyone they just played into his hands with all the diving and rolling about.. i think really there is a case for FIFA to wipe them all out and have no bans or anyone on yellows

as for the Figo head butt yes he shouldn't have done it and got a card for it but the holland bloke over reacted.. there is no way on earth that it would have made anyone fall over let alone even hurt you.. it is ridiculous that Figo could get banned from TV evidence but when they watched it they will see a Dutch bloke cheating and pretending to be hurt and he will get rewarded for that..

according to the Laws of the Game unsportsman like behavour is a yellow card offence but i've seen players waving yellow cards at the ref to get other players booked.. i've seen players patting the ref on the back when they have booked someone.. i've seen players clap the ref too and nothing has ever been done about that

if you ask the fans do they care about players wearing jewelery and do you care about players cheating i'm sure i know which one the fans want to see stopped yet which one is that FIFA working on cutting out of the game ?

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The way England have been playing they need all the help they can get!
I'd love to see England win the world cup, but I'm a realist. They have got absolutely no chance if they continue to play as they are. We are lucky that we have not come up against one of the big guns. I think Brazil, who are not firing on all cylinders yet could still beat us, and that's with a way under par Ronaldo. God knows what the likes of Argentina or Germany could do to us! How we can have a bunch of players (our "Golden Generation")who turn in fantastic performances for their clubs, but perform as they do in an England shirt is beyond me. I do not think it can all be down to Sven either. Personally, I do not think that things will improve much under Maclaren when he takes over the reigns. What has he done for Middlesborough considering all the cash he has been given to spend by his Chairman (Steve Gibson)? Nothing, that's what. Don't give me the, "Middlesborough done well in Europe last season" rubbish. The bottom line is that they lost. Nobody remembers losers, they only remember who came out on top. You should look at where Middlesborough finished in the league to see the true picture. The F.A should have gone for Martin O'neil, or Sam Allardyce, but that would not have suited the F.A. Two people who say it as it is in front of camera. Not exactly the kind of P.R. the F.A like. O'Neil can motivate players, and isn't afraid to bruise a few ego's if it's required. Allardyce would also drop a few of the big names as well if they under performed. After all, who would you say is the better manager. Someone given bucket fulls of cash to spend on players and finished near the bottom of the league, or someone who has consistently finished in the top half, and done it on a shoestring? I know what my opinion on that one is.

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watching the game at the weekend you could see that during the match is was Sm who was writting down notes and tactics anyway and doing all the shouting and stuff to the players.. Sven doesn't do anything and with SM taking over after the WC Sven should have gone already.. it will be better for the team and SM to take over now when he does most of it anyway

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This is like blaming anyone but the parents of todays juvenile delinquents.

The referee, didn't go over the ball, he didn't dive, cheat, feign injury or foul anyone. The people responsible for last nights debacle are the players and the managers and no one else.:mad:

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:clap:

Sir if I had a hat to cover my bald head then I would raise it to you. You have summed it up better than I ever could. Greenie on its way.

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SM keeps taking so many notes, is he writing a book about each game?:rolleyes: Southgate said it clearly: SM ain't ready. He is a PR man that put massage chairs in Derby FC!!!:rolleyes:

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Watching last nights game (Portugal/Holland) reminded me why I hate all things football.....those players where not professional in any sense of the word but just a bunch of cheats who did not want to try and win by skill alone............doing anything they could to disadvantage the other team !

Mike

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there is a case for some of the people who got booked to get banned though...

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Does anyone think Italy should be disqualified for the way they won that match??

It just makes a complete joke of the whole thing.

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Is Mick McCarthy, commentating on BBC coverage, the most 'northern' man in the world? :)

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Well...the Ukraine v Switzerland match was a cure for insomnia.

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How many offsides were there in the end, at half time there wasn't any....
I switched off after half time.
It seems strange to wonder how many offsides there were rather than goals, but that is how bad the match was, until half time anyway :erm:

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I believe it remained zero offsides.

And Switzerland didn't even want to score in the penalty shootout (nor did Shevchenko) :erm:

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Mind you, it will be embarrassing for England if they lose against a Portugal side that's not at full strength.

I just hope that England go out there and put 3 or more goals past them and rid themselves of the habit of scoring one goal and hanging on stonewalling for the rest of the match.

It will be interesting to see what actual lessons England have learned and whether we have a solid defence to keep the Portuguese out. If I see any side-passing, back-passing or dribbling out of defence when a good boot to the wings would do the job I shall scream!! It's painful watching them do that as you're always expecting one of the opposing side to intercept a ball in the England half and put it in our net as happened with Sweden.

England also need to realise that though possession is nine tenths of the law the other tenth says you have to do something with the ball when you have it i.e. score. They also need to realise that in defence if they don't kick it out the opposition will kick it in and then we're in real trouble.

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Can you clarify whether discussing giving reps is against forum policy?

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i like germany's away kit. hope they wear it today

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Thank god the football is back. Tennis is so boring

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Listening to Radio One in the car last night. Live commentary (stroke by stroke) on the tennis. It's not quite the same as footie is it? :shocked:

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Whether it's on the radio or on the telly... tennis is sleep-inducing.

I'd rather watch synchronised swimming than sit through a tennis match - it's less torturous.

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depends on who's playing . i could watch some of those women for hours :D

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wow, it took them only a few seconds after seeing the team for them to complain about tevez getting into the team instead of the inferior leo messi

personally, i wouldn't have started lucho over cambiasso

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great bet for the world cup - if it goes intoa penalty shootout, gerrard is 7/1 to score while beckham(who consistently misses penalties), lampard(who is on a cold streak) and joe cole(who doesn't even take penalties) are all at 1/3

townsend - "we're all waiting for (leo) messi"

1. it's "LEO MESSI"
2. he can't come on while you are all butt****ing him
3. he's a great dribbler, that's all. his passing is ok, his shooting is terrible and he has no defensive skills. i know out of him and carlitos which one i would pick
4. i wish sportsworld had this argentina kit and not the white one i have on now

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**** happens :(

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I liked the Germany Argentina game I thought it was a victory for determination, strength of character, and courage over ill discipline and poor sportsmanship.
At the end of the day the coach bottled it, why did he bring on those defensive midfielders, sometimes I think coaches just try to prove how clever they are, have they never heard of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Also what happened at the end we all saw the free-for-all however did anyone see the infamous karate kick?

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No idea what happened, Heinze looked like he wanted to batter Bierhoff!

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Cufre kicked Metzelder in the nuts! No footage of it as according to the BBC FIFA have confiscated all the tapes.

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30 mins to go.
Best of Luck. England.

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Utter shambles. So far, England are simply not good enough.

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Penalties..

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..which isn't a good sign.

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I wonder how many of you have suddenly found God :D

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...and Goodnight Irene!

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Another awful bunch of penalty kicks

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Yep, it's not.
Nope... I haven't..

Good night.. The best team, erm, lost.

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They did not look like they even wanted to bloody win, what a shambles.

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gg... glad its all over and we can get back to normality.. thats all I will say on the matter... :)

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Hurts dont it?

I mean its only taken yet another 4 years for England to show that not one of those players deserved to wear the team shirt they were gifted.

We should retire from international football until we have a team that can play football, a few forwards that know where a goal is placed on the field and how to kick a ball. We need a team that can remember which direction of play the ball should be going instead of gaining 30 yards to pass the ball all the way back. And we need to drop crouch and pretend we never even entertained him as a professional footballer.

Mind you crouch is talented at losing the ball, running in a half arsed manner and generally doing nothing......he did put a few good tackles in......on himself though.

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Right then, which excuse shall we chose this time? Rooney being sent off? Poor penalty takers? Sven not being in it 100%? The heat? The Portugese?