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Stephen 02-07-2008 14:39

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Originally Posted by cimt (Post 34589878)
Has anyone watched the US pilot yet then?

Yep I watched and wish I hadn't. It just doesn't seem to work with American Actors and being set in the USA. no idea why it needed remade to be honest.

sherer 02-07-2008 14:54

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34590004)
Yep I watched and wish I hadn't. It just doesn't seem to work with American Actors and being set in the USA. no idea why it needed remade to be honest.

i think that is more because the mass market in the US just won't watch a programme with UK actors , set over here.

I'm sure some after watching the US version will seek out the UK version but not as many

cimt 03-07-2008 11:46

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Is Michael Imperioli a decent guy to play Ray?

alferret 04-07-2008 18:20

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I had the misfortune to watch the US v of LoM and words fail me.

squirrel1970 06-07-2008 02:54

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I believe they are reshooting the first episode again - this time using actors :D

Russ 19-07-2008 11:30

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Uh oh....

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a11...ler-story.html

Looks like the yanks are going to butcher it then.

Sirius 19-07-2008 11:36

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34603636)
Uh oh....

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a11...ler-story.html

Looks like the yanks are going to butcher it then.

Typical :rolleyes:

When will they understand the world does not revolve around them.

Cobbydaler 19-07-2008 11:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34603636)
Uh oh....

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a11...ler-story.html

Looks like the yanks are going to butcher it then.

Quote:

Explaining why he removed the ambiguity of the character's predicament, Appelbaum said: "With this mythological element to it, it's not just a cop show, and if he was ultimately just in a coma or it was all a dream, it felt a bit unsatisfying. So we made it a deeper mystery."
The ambiguity was a large part of the series' appeal... :rolleyes:

sherer 19-07-2008 12:28

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didn't they understand that the whole point was "it wasn't just a cop show" or would that concept be too difficult for the average American to understand

Maggy 19-07-2008 12:56

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34603675)
didn't they understand that the whole point was "it wasn't just a cop show" or would that concept be too difficult for the average American to understand

It's just that they cannot believe that the average US viewer can actually think..

Russ 19-07-2008 13:01

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I'm guessing a 'cop' show in America needs to centre on either lots of explosions or catching terrorists.

cimt 25-07-2008 11:38

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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/a11...-hunt.html?rss

Hopefully, this guy can play a better Gene Hunt than the other guy who was meant to play him.

Stephen 25-07-2008 12:18

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I see its also going to be set in New York and not LA.

SMHarman 25-07-2008 19:57

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34608194)
I see its also going to be set in New York and not LA.

If they are not careful, setting it in NY and the tweaks to the format you could end up with another New Amsterdam.

Tims 28-07-2008 12:12

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I really liked Life on Mars, what a great story. It looks like they're trying to slaughter it on purpose.

v0id 28-07-2008 14:54

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Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34608498)
If they are not careful, setting it in NY and the tweaks to the format you could end up with another New Amsterdam.

I kind of liked New Amsterdam :/

SMHarman 28-07-2008 15:31

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Originally Posted by v0id (Post 34609951)
I kind of liked New Amsterdam :/

So did I but it ended totally abrubtly. I wish when they did that they published the future scripts

cimt 10-10-2008 14:41

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Hmmm, the first proper episode of the US version is now out. It is a lot better than the pilot, I think I'll give it a few more episodes before giving my opinions on it.

SMHarman 10-10-2008 15:04

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Originally Posted by cimt (Post 34651491)
Hmmm, the first proper episode of the US version is now out. It is a lot better than the pilot, I think I'll give it a few more episodes before giving my opinions on it.

Wow - your fast - I didn't even have to go find it - it came to my TV in lovely HD.
Yes the first proper episode is now out. The lead Jason O'Mara reminds me of a young Mel Gibson and I think the characters need a couple more episodes to grow into their roles (or maybe I am used to seeing John Simm play the role) but it was a good opener and pretty faithful to the original script.
The NYC location plays well and the nice use of the twin towers. Timing wise this actually works (compared to the slight twist of time in the UK one) as the towers were completed in 1972 and ribbon cut in April 1973.
Gonna keep watching but my damn DVR chopped the end of it - grrr.

SMHarman 11-10-2008 06:50

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Thinking more about this now I have seen it in a less sleepy state. Sam has the same sort of awareness as Alex Drake did in Ashes. It could work - it did in Ashes.

supremus 11-10-2008 12:47

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Hmm, not sure about Life on Mars US. They seem to have created a more authentic, well populated 1970s, but the fun and warmth seems to be missing, not just from the environment, but also from the characters. Keitel is a fine actor, but Glenister's Gene Hunt was an instant classic, and on first impressions, there's no real comparison the two. The guy playing Sam is kind of wooden, and although he seems less smarmy than John Simms, he doesn't really have much chemistry with either Keitel or Gretchen Mol, and in almost every scene, I kept thinking the guy from Journeyman would have been much better in the role. The only character that really caught my attention was The Sopranos' Michael Imperioli, and it was kind of nice to see Lisa Bonet back on TV as well.

I thought it was disappointing how closely the pilot followed the UK version, and as a result made many of the same mistakes, and even found room for some new ones. They rushed the setup, and the opening car sequence looked cheap and felt forced, which might not have seemed too important in the grand scheme of things, but it gave a bad first impression. They were sensible enough to cut the mind-numbingly stupid rooftop scene, although, it did serve the purpose of setting up the ending of the UK series, so hopefully this means future episodes will start to take a different route. The Office US was also off to a comparatively weak start, but eventually managed to not only match, but completely surpass the UK version, and certainly in terms of plot, that shouldn't be too hard for Life on Mars, but I do have my concerns about the characters.

First impressions: A resounding "meh".

SMHarman 13-10-2008 14:40

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Originally Posted by supremus (Post 34651970)
I thought it was disappointing how closely the pilot followed the UK version, and as a result made many of the same mistakes, and even found room for some new ones. They rushed the setup, and the opening car sequence looked cheap and felt forced, which might not have seemed too important in the grand scheme of things, but it gave a bad first impression. They were sensible enough to cut the mind-numbingly stupid rooftop scene, although, it did serve the purpose of setting up the ending of the UK series, so hopefully this means future episodes will start to take a different route. The Office US was also off to a comparatively weak start, but eventually managed to not only match, but completely surpass the UK version, and certainly in terms of plot, that shouldn't be too hard for Life on Mars, but I do have my concerns about the characters.

First impressions: A resounding "meh".

I read something a couple of days ago (no idea the source) that said it will, Office style, take a different route going forward. Wait and see...

cimt 17-10-2008 19:50

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The second episode also is like the second episode of the UK version. 5 of them run out of a swimming pool, wearing nothing but swimming trunks etc.

sir_drinks_alot 21-10-2008 23:10

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wonder who will pick up the uk right's for the us LOM bet it's itv 3 or 4 :D

supremus 22-10-2008 14:00

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The second episode was not an improvement, once again following the original much too closely, and making more or less all the same mistakes.

It's funny, as crap as the British version was, it was still some of the best stuff you could hope to catch on British TV, but this is so far below the standards of US TV, you've gotta wonder how long they'll put up with this charmless, banal, heavy-handed crap. Maybe the 40% drop in ratings this week at least partly answers that question?

cimt 03-03-2009 10:43

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ABC has cancelled this after just one season which will end at 17 episodes.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/a14...ne-season.html

Bloody hell, ABC will have no more shows left by May time. :erm:

martyh 03-03-2009 11:49

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watched this the first time round 2yr's ago i enjoyed it but did not like the other one they did with a woman copper

cimt 02-04-2009 12:54

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Wow, I couldn't think of an ending that was more different to the original.

Chris 02-04-2009 13:06

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Are you talking about the American remake? How did they end it?

cimt 02-04-2009 13:12

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Spoiler: 
He woke up in a space shuttle in a pod. The other people woke up and it ended up being the people he worked with. He was living this life because they went into a meotre shower which I'm sure knocked him uncosious. The kicker? The year is 2035 and Barack Obama's daughter is President.


Some of it may be wrong.

The Hitman 02-04-2009 13:52

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Annie did look hot at the end.:drool::drool::drool:

Stephen 02-04-2009 16:25

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At first reading about the US ending I thought it was an April Fool!

Such a daft ending really.

Spoiler: 
Both 1973 and 2008 were not real, Sam is an astronaut in 2035 and was in Stasis and chose the life of a 2008 cop in New York for his dream. However something went wrong and the system sent him to 1973


Thats the quick short explanation...

Chris 02-04-2009 16:41

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That's a very American ending. They like neat explanations and less ambiguity.

Russ 09-12-2009 09:58

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Ending to be explained apparently - http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s49...e-on-mars.html

Damien 09-12-2009 10:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34767378)
At first reading about the US ending I thought it was an April Fool!

Such a daft ending really.

Spoiler: 
Both 1973 and 2008 were not real, Sam is an astronaut in 2035 and was in Stasis and chose the life of a 2008 cop in New York for his dream. However something went wrong and the system sent him to 1973


Thats the quick short explanation...

Doh! They should have set it in 2038.

TheDaddy 10-12-2009 13:46

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34923771)
Ending to be explained apparently -

I don't like the sound of that at all, why do people need things to be explained? Some things are better left unsaid and imo this could well end up being one of them.

alferret 08-07-2012 23:05

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Just dragging one up from the depths of the ether!

Unfortunately for me I have just endured the first 6, the 11th & last 2 episodes of LoM ala the US version of it.
Never before (well not in recent memory anyway) have I watched such dire tripe & for the ending, well what can I say.

Going to have to watch the original just to try & remove the scars left by the yank effort :sick:

v0id 08-07-2012 23:12

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Originally Posted by alferret (Post 35451015)
Just dragging one up from the depths of the ether!

Unfortunately for me I have just endured the first 6, the 11th & last 2 episodes of LoM ala the US version of it.
Never before (well not in recent memory anyway) have I watched such dire tripe & for the ending, well what can I say.

Going to have to watch the original just to try & remove the scars left by the yank effort :sick:

I watched the original US pilot with Colm Meaney as Gene Hunt and thought it looked rubbish, so didn't bother with the full series

Americans don't usually do remakes of British shows well (IT Crowd, Red Dwarf, Spaced, LoM to name a few) with the only real exception IMO being The Office: An American Workplace

cimt 08-07-2012 23:19

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Only other successful remakes I can think of is Shameless and Being Human.

Lew 09-07-2012 00:16

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And Sanford and Son.


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