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Stephen 21-09-2024 00:28
Re: US Election 2024
 
No one does word salad as good or as big as Trump.

Pierre 21-09-2024 09:35
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36183218)
No one does word salad as good or as big as Trump.
I think you’ll find the term is “Bigly”

Chris 21-09-2024 09:39
Re: US Election 2024
 
Or “Yuge”

Mr K 21-09-2024 09:51
Re: US Election 2024
 
Has Jeffrey Archer got ot right?
Quote:
I’d vote for Kamala Harris if I had a vote,” he says. “I couldn’t vote for Trump but I think he’ll win. Three quarters of Americans are not intelligent.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/au...kamala-tories/

He's certainly right on the last bit.

Chris 21-09-2024 10:10
Re: US Election 2024
 
Trump has never won the popular vote, even when he (possibly) won the election in 2016, so there’s definitely not a correlation between intelligence as defined by Archer, and votes for Trump.

The only groups where Trump is ahead are non-college educated white men, and conservative evangelical Christians - the latter because they’ve been schooled from the pulpit to see elections as a single-issue contest about abortion.

Women, of all levels of education, and blacks, again, of all levels of education, are Harris, sometimes by quite a hefty majority. I saw a table breaking this down the other day, I’ll see if I can find it again.

Hugh 21-09-2024 11:39
Re: US Election 2024
 
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/woman...b00648275b86da

Quote:
An Ohio woman whose police report was used to power racist rumors about Haitian immigrants stealing and eating neighborhood cats has admitted her pet was found in her home, just days after she reported her Haitian neighbors to local police.

Baseless reports about missing pets in Springfield, Ohio gained national attention after Donald Trump parroted the rumor during his debate against Vice President Kamala Harris last Tuesday.

“In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs,” he said. “The people that came in, they’re eating the cats. They’re eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what’s happening in this country.”

Despite the former president receiving an instant fact-check from moderator David Muir, his unfounded anti-immigrant rhetoric continued to circulate online and in the media, backed by several of his campaign surrogates. Trump’s running mate, Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), doubled down on the misinformation during multiple media appearances this past weekend.

But the day before the Trump-Harris debate, Springfield City Manager Bryan Heck had explicitly debunked the rumor to a Vance aide, according to a Thursday report from the Wall Street Journal.

When the Journal approached Vance’s team about the cat-eating claim, a spokesperson provided a police report from a Springfield resident who accused her Haitian neighbors of being responsible for her cat going missing in late August.

But when the outlet contacted the person who filed the report, Anna Kilgore, she told the paper that her pet, Miss Sassy, was found in her basement days after she contacted the police.

Kilgore, who was wearing a Trump shirt and hat when the Journal spoke with her, told reporters that she had since apologized to her Haitian neighbors…

… Another Springfield resident, whose Facebook post began the pet-eating rumor that Kilgore’s police report ostensibly proved, has apologized for inciting a backlash against her city.

Speaking to NBC News on Friday, Erika Lee admitted she had no firsthand knowledge of any pets being kidnapped by people from Springfield’s Haitian immigrant community, let alone being eaten.

Mr K 21-09-2024 12:25
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36183229)
It wasn't true ? I'm gob smacked ! Tango man never lies. Good news about the cat though :)

Dude111 23-09-2024 01:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Trump has never won the popular vote, even when he (possibly) won the election in 2016, so there’s definitely not a correlation between intelligence as defined by Archer, and votes for Trump.
No Chris there is alot of dishonesty going on.....

They kinda cheated to get Donny in..... I think its strange Donny is mad the election was stoilen in 2020 when he knows he didnt get in fairly either!!

The whole voting thing died in 2016 in my opinion..........

Wheather Donny gets back in THIS YEAR is unknown....I guess it depends on which side is stronger......

1andrew1 02-10-2024 09:12
Re: US Election 2024
 
Could be fun!
Quote:
But the fact that JD Vance did so well on the undercard may just entice Donald Trump to accept the offer of another bout against Kamala Harris because - as we well know - he does not like being outshone.
https://news.sky.com/story/with-no-k...p-era-13226329

Itshim 07-10-2024 19:16
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36183227)
Trump has never won the popular vote, even when he (possibly) won the election in 2016, so there’s definitely not a correlation between intelligence as defined by Archer, and votes for Trump.

The only groups where Trump is ahead are non-college educated white men, and conservative evangelical Christians - the latter because they’ve been schooled from the pulpit to see elections as a single-issue contest about abortion.

Women, of all levels of education, and blacks, again, of all levels of education, are Harris, sometimes by quite a hefty majority. I saw a table breaking this down the other day, I’ll see if I can find it again.
My problem is that Harris is to closely connected to Old Joe. From my point of view, my family and I would be better off with Trump. Which says alot.Your break down does not have a great bearing on the result, as the blue coller vote along the religious right will likely carry the swing states:cool: So my money is on Trump.

1andrew1 07-10-2024 19:46
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36183938)
My problem is that Harris is to closely connected to Old Joe. From my point of view, my family and I would be better off with Trump. Which says alot.Your break down does not have a great bearing on the result, as the blue coller vote along the religious right will likely carry the swing states:cool: So my money is on Trump.
I doubt anyone except a few cronies would be better off with Trump as he is economically illiterate. More worryingly, he has a disdain for democracy as his convinctions demonstrate. He would waste tax payers' money chasing judges who've followed due process and putting people in charge based on how much the fawn to him and not on their abilities, making the US the laughing stock of the World.

And if you don't want another old politician in power, don't given your vote to Trump.

Biden is a bit useless in the Middle East but the US currently has an economy the rest of the world looks on with envy:

Quote:
US economy smashes expectations with 254,000 jobs added in September

The US economy added 254,000 jobs in September, far outstripping expectations, in a sign of the labour market’s resilience as the Federal Reserve considers how rapidly to cut interest rates.

The figure from the Bureau of Labor Statistics was above expectations of economists polled by Reuters of 140,000 and compared with an upwardly revised gain of 159,000 jobs in August.

The Fed last month cut its benchmark interest rate by half a percentage point to pre-empt any significant weakening of the labour market.

The figure suggests the Fed is on course to pull off a so-called soft landing for the US economy, which has weathered the worst period of high inflation in a generation while maintaining robust growth and strong employment.
https://www.ft.com/content/3261fc5f-...5-26864ef24e6a

Pierre 07-10-2024 20:22
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36183940)
I doubt anyone except a few cronies would be better off with Trump as he is economically illiterate.
What do you base that on?


Quote:
More worryingly, he has a disdain for democracy as his convinctions demonstrate.
Which of his convictions demonstrate that? I thought he was only convicted of falsifying business records?

Quote:
He would waste tax payers' money chasing judges who've followed due process and putting people in charge based on how much the fawn to him and not on their abilities, making the US the laughing stock of the World.
The opinion of you……..and you are ……as far as I know…..not the most eminent political commentator out there.

Quote:
Biden is a bit useless
Biden hasn’t been in charge for ages, he’s been ousted by his own party, as he is not fit to run for reelection, but deemed ok to remain in position until February 25?

Stephen 07-10-2024 20:53
Re: US Election 2024
 
Biden chose to not stand for re-election and is still very much in charge. He is not too unfit to run the country at all.

papa smurf 07-10-2024 21:13
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36183945)
Biden chose to not stand for re-election and is still very much in charge. He is not too unfit to run the country at all.
You should go on stage with that routine :rofl:

Pierre 07-10-2024 21:28
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36183945)
Biden chose to not stand for re-election and is still very much in charge. He is not too unfit to run the country at all.
Ha ha ha, you are truly a comedy legend.

Seriously though, you with that statement, are an an authoritative administrations wet dream.

1andrew1 07-10-2024 21:36
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36183942)
What do you base that on?
From policies like those mentioned below.

The non-partisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget warns of heightened risk of ‘an eventual fiscal crisis’ and his plans will see the USA in debt by double the amount that Kamala Harris's plans would.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...la-harris.html

And he is shocked when regular economic growth occurs
Quote:
But Trump keeps pretending otherwise, either because he's economically illiterate or because he enjoys pretending to be economically illiterate. During his interview with Mike Huckabee over the weekend, for example, the president added in reference to the latest GDP data, "Everybody was shocked. They said it wouldn't happen for years."

Again, nobody was shocked, just as nobody said it'd take years to see quarterly growth that's been routine for quite a while.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...cy-msna1027741

And thinks that tariffs just tax foreign companies
Quote:
But in recent weeks, Mr. Trump has made even more expansive claims about the power of tariffs, including that they will help pay for child care, combat inflation, finance a U.S. sovereign wealth fund and help preserve the dollar’s pre-eminent role in the global economy.

Economists have been skeptical of many of these assertions. While tariffs generate some level of revenue, in many cases they could create only a small amount of the funding needed to pursue some of the goals that Mr. Trump has outlined.

In other cases, they say, tariffs could actually backfire on the U.S. economy, by inviting retaliation from foreign governments and raising costs for consumers. Economic research has indicated that the cost of tariffs tend to be borne by American businesses and households, rather than foreign companies.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/10/u...m-tariffs.html

Mr K 07-10-2024 21:41
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36183948)
Ha ha ha, you are truly a comedy legend.

Seriously though, you with that statement, are an an authoritative administrations wet dream.
Seems some, still haven't got over the UK GE result, and are looking elsewhere for their loony kicks...

Try following Halifax Town AFC, if you're in need of some entertainment . ( if not results....) Surely more important than a country you don't live in. :)

1andrew1 07-10-2024 21:41
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36183942)
The opinion of you……..and you are ……as far as I know…..not the most eminent political commentator out there.
If you and I were eminent political commentators, I doubt we would be spending our time on a forum when the world's TV studios waited upon our wisdom. :D

TheDaddy 07-10-2024 21:42
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36183942)
What do you base that on?



Which of his convictions demonstrate that? I thought he was only convicted of falsifying business records?
The words out of his own mouth to Glen Beck + his first impeachment, for someone with such a strong opinion people would think you'd pay attention more


Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36183948)
Ha ha ha, you are truly a comedy legend.

Seriously though, you with that statement, are an an authoritative administrations wet dream.
So are supporters of the guy who promised to be dictator on day 1, he's actually telling people what he'll do and it makes no difference to the cult who don't believe the evidence of their eyes and ears :spin:

1andrew1 07-10-2024 21:43
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36183942)
Biden hasn’t been in charge for ages, he’s been ousted by his own party, as he is not fit to run for reelection, but deemed ok to remain in position until February 25?
Not a great situation is it? We don't want history to repeat itself by electing another very old person as US President do we?

Paul 07-10-2024 22:13
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36183953)
Not a great situation is it? We don't want history to repeat itself by electing another very old person as US President do we?
Its not uncommon, since Kennedy most have been over 50, the more recent over 70.

Fun fact, Jimmy Carter is the oldest living (ex) president, he turned 100 last week, he was 52 when elected.

Pierre 07-10-2024 22:59
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36183949)
From policies like those mentioned below.

The non-partisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget warns of heightened risk of ‘an eventual fiscal crisis’ and his plans will see the USA in debt by double the amount that Kamala Harris's plans would.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...la-harris.html
It’s an opinion piece, it plainly says in the first few lines …….

Quote:
Trump, who has not yet released a comprehensive economic plan,
If he hasn’t put forward a plan/policy how can they claim a crisis?

Hmmm

Quote:
And he is shocked when regular economic growth occurs

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...cy-msna1027741
Yes, from that article …..in October 2017

Quote:
No one actually thought that -- because 3.1% quarterly growth has been quite common since the end of the Great Recession.

But from just six months earlier…..

Quote:
The US economy slowed dramatically in the first three months of the year, according to official data, external.
GDP expanded at an annual rate of 0.7% in the first quarter - the slowest rate since the first quarter of 2014.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39748165

That would appear to be well below the very common 3%, wouldn’t it?

Quote:
And thinks that tariffs just tax foreign companies

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/10/u...m-tariffs.html
Tariffs have their place, but that is just another opinion piece.

---------- Post added at 22:56 ---------- Previous post was at 22:53 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36183948)
Ha ha ha, you are truly a comedy legend.

Seriously though, you with that statement, are an an authoritative administrations wet dream.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36183950)
Seems some, still haven't got over the UK GE result, and are looking elsewhere for their loony kicks...

Try following Halifax Town AFC, if you're in need of some entertainment . ( if not results....) Surely more important than a country you don't live in. :)
If there was an actual point to that post, please do write in, although I can’t reply to all letters I do read them.

---------- Post added at 22:59 ---------- Previous post was at 22:56 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36183951)
If you and I were eminent political commentators, I doubt we would be spending our time on a forum when the world's TV studios waited upon our wisdom. :D
Point accepted, but I think we’d be great on the Jeremy Vine show. Just waiting for the call.

Hugh 07-10-2024 22:59
Re: US Election 2024
 
Trump’s own proposals for tariffs

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy...w-do-they-work

Quote:
He has proposed a 60% tariff on goods from China — and a tariff of up to 20% on everything else the United States imports.

This week, he raised the ante still higher. To punish the machinery manufacturer John Deere for its plans to move some production to Mexico, Trump vowed to tax anything Deere tried to export back into the United States — at 200%.

And he threatened to hit Mexican-made goods with 100% tariffs, a move that would risk blowing up a trade deal that Trump’s own administration negotiated with Canada and Mexico

Pierre 07-10-2024 23:14
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36183952)
The words out of his own mouth to Glen Beck + his first impeachment, for someone with such a strong opinion people would think you'd pay attention more
Conviction. As in convicted and he has never been impeached.


Quote:
So are supporters of the guy who promised to be dictator on day 1, he's actually telling people what he'll do and it makes no difference to the cult who don't believe the evidence of their eyes and ears :spin:
Dictator on day one, one for the sheep….and yes, I mean you as you obviously blindly eagerly eat any sheet fed to you by the anyone.

Yes he said jokingly he would be a dictator on day one, for a day……………..as….a……..joke……..for……..a……….day…………

Quote:
, you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody?” Hannity asked Trump in the interview taped in Davenport, Iowa on Tuesday.

“Except for day one,” Trump responded
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...iowa-town-hall

Clearly a joke.

---------- Post added at 23:14 ---------- Previous post was at 23:10 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36183960)
Trump’s own proposals for tariffs

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy...w-do-they-work
Good for him.

We’ve sold our manufacturing base down the river. We, the nation that invented steel, can no longer make it.

Why do you think his proposals are bad?

Hugh 08-10-2024 09:08
Re: US Election 2024
 
From the linked article above

Quote:
Tariffs raise costs for companies and consumers that rely on imports. They’re also likely to provoke retaliation.

The European Union, for example, punched back against Trump’s tariffs on steel and aluminum by taxing U.S. products, from bourbon to Harley-Davidson motorcycles. Likewise, China responded to Trump’s trade war by slapping tariffs on American goods, including soybeans and pork in a calculated drive to hurt his supporters in farm country.

A study by economists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Zurich, Harvard and the World Bank concluded that Trump’s tariffs failed to restore jobs to the American heartland. The tariffs “neither raised nor lowered U.S. employment’’ where they were supposed to protect jobs, the study found.

Despite Trump’s 2018 taxes on imported steel, for example, the number of jobs at U.S. steel plants barely budged: They remained right around 140,000. By comparison, Walmart alone employs 1.6 million people in the United States.

Worse, the retaliatory taxes imposed by China and other nations on U.S. goods had “negative employment impacts,’’ especially for farmers, the study found. These retaliatory tariffs were only partly offset by billions in government aid that Trump doled out to farmers. The Trump tariffs also damaged companies that relied on targeted imports.
The Tax Foundation, a right-wing Libertarian policy research group funded by the Koch Brothers & Exxon Mobil, stated

Quote:
Candidate Trump has proposed significant tariff hikes as part of his presidential campaign; we estimate that if imposed, his proposed tariff increases would hike taxes by another $524 billion annually and shrink GDP by at least 0.8 percent, the capital stock by 0.7 percent, and employment by 684,000 full-time equivalent jobs. Our estimates do not capture the effects of retaliation, nor the additional harms that would stem from starting a global trade war.
For his previous Tariffs, they say

Quote:
Before accounting for behavioral effects, the $79 billion in higher tariffs amounts to an average annual tax increase on US households of $625. Based on actual revenue collections data, trade war tariffs have directly increased tax collections by $200 to $300 annually per US household, on average. Both estimates understate the cost to US households because they do not factor in the lost output, lower incomes, and loss in consumer choice the tariffs have caused.
https://taxfoundation.org/research/a...biden-tariffs/

Pierre 08-10-2024 09:57
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36183972)
For his previous Tariffs, they say
Swings and roundabouts, winners and losers

Quote:
Workers who produce the specific goods covered by tariffs typically benefit from the protection. While it is difficult to pin down exact numbers, the tariffs on steel products appear to have helped create several thousand jobs in the steel industry; similarly, tariffs on washing machines are associated with approximately 1,800 new jobs at Whirlpool, Samsung, and LG factories in the US. In these specific industries, then, tariffs have probably been good for workers.

But any benefits for workers in import-competing industries need to be balanced against losses for two other groups of workers. First, many workers are employed in factories that use imported goods as inputs in their production processes, and when these imports increase in cost due to tariffs, it harms their production, often leading to job losses. Second, when the U.S. unilaterally imposes tariffs, American trading partners often implement retaliatory tariffs which may limit U.S. export production, again ultimately harming workers in these industries.

In general, then, Trump’s tariffs have helped some workers and hurt others.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/d...onal-security/

TheDaddy 08-10-2024 12:19
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36183961)
Conviction. As in convicted and he has never been impeached.
Wrong, he's been impeached twice, it's the process regardless of verdict

Quote:
Dictator on day one, one for the sheep….and yes, I mean you as you obviously blindly eagerly eat any sheet fed to you by the anyone.

Yes he said jokingly he would be a dictator on day one, for a day……………..as….a……..joke……..for……..a……….day…………



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...iowa-town-hall

Clearly a joke.
Clearly joking, that's why I quoted the Glen Beck interview where he stated he'd have no choice but to lock up political opponents

Pierre 08-10-2024 15:16
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36183984)
no choice but to lock up political opponents
Well Biden and Harris have certainly given it a good go.

TheDaddy 08-10-2024 16:47
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36183990)
Well Biden and Harris have certainly given it a good go.
What utter bs and you called me a sheep :rofl:

Why don't you try and substantiate some of donnies claims because he sure as hell can't

Itshim 08-10-2024 17:55
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36183940)
I doubt anyone except a few cronies would be better off with Trump as he is economically illiterate. More worryingly, he has a disdain for democracy as his convinctions demonstrate. He would waste tax payers' money chasing judges who've followed due process and putting people in charge based on how much the fawn to him and not on their abilities, making the US the laughing stock of the World.

And if you don't want another old politician in power, don't given your vote to Trump.

Biden is a bit useless in the Middle East but the US currently has an economy the rest of the world looks on with envy:


https://www.ft.com/content/3261fc5f-...5-26864ef24e6a
Sorry our accounts say differently and in the end it's the bottom line thar counts

Hugh 08-10-2024 20:07
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36183974)
Swings and roundabouts, winners and losers



https://www.brookings.edu/articles/d...onal-security/
I thought the rest of the text gave a more nuanced view…

Quote:
American firms and consumers paid the vast majority of the cost of Trump’s tariffs.

While tariffs benefited some workers in import-competing industries, they hurt workers in sectors that rely on imported inputs and those in exporting industries facing retaliation from trade partners.

Trump’s tariffs did not help the U.S. negotiate better trade agreements or significantly improve national security.
Quote:
The Trump administration has repeatedly argued that foreign companies are paying for tariffs. But multiple studies suggest this is not the case: the cost of tariffs have been borne almost entirely by American households and American firms, not foreign exporters. While estimates vary, economic analyses suggest the average American household has paid somewhere from several hundred up to a thousand dollars or more per year thanks to higher consumer prices attributable to the tariffs.
And the bit immediately after your quote seems put more meat on the statement

Quote:
In general, then, Trump’s tariffs have helped some workers and hurt others.
Where it states

Quote:
Yet, overall, when economists have attempted to add up the net effect of Trump’s tariffs on jobs, any gains in importing-competing sectors appear to have been more than offset by losses in industries that use imported inputs and face retaliation on their foreign exports. And even those jobs that have been created have come at great cost: studies suggest American consumers paid about $817,000 in higher prices attributable to the tariffs for every job created in the washing machine industry and $900,000 in the steel industry.

Pierre 08-10-2024 21:46
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36183995)
What utter bs and you called me a sheep :rofl:
You don’t think that the US judiciary has been hijacked and weaponised to try and jail Trump?

Baaaaa!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36184008)
I thought the rest of the text gave a more nuanced view…

And the bit immediately after your quote seems put more meat on the statement

Where it states
All completely fair.

But

If it was the U.K. would I accept paying more for various things if it meant we kept our manufacturing base and skills and not become reliant on other states which could dictate prices in the future.


Probably.

If setting tariffs, keeps your industry and skills but costs a few quid ….then that’s a trade off you have explain and justify.

I’d happily pay a premium to keep U.K. industry and skills.

TheDaddy 08-10-2024 22:39
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36184009)
You don’t think that the US judiciary has been hijacked and weaponised to try and jail Trump?

Baaaaa!
.
To jail him for the crimes he's committed you mean, how deep in the cult are you to belive he is the victim? Some of the cases started whilst he was still president and are in state courts, tried by judges he appointed and its still not enough to convince you, bet you buy his crappy nft's and trading cards

papa smurf 11-10-2024 15:20
Re: US Election 2024
 
I was having tea at my sons yesterday and my granddaughter declared she hopes kamala harris wins the election,when i asked why she answered because Donald Trump tells lies ,she's only 6 years old, kids seem to be so tuned in these days:)

Paul 11-10-2024 15:52
Re: US Election 2024
 
:rofl:

papa smurf 13-10-2024 21:27
Re: US Election 2024
 
Third possible Trump assassination attempt thwarted when armed man arrested outside Coachella rally, sheriff says


https://nypost.com/2024/10/13/us-new...-sheriff-says/

Hugh 13-10-2024 22:55
Re: US Election 2024
 
Probably not, considering he’s been released on bail…

https://www.thetimes.com/article/38f...8347ea6bd5e0c1

Quote:
Miller considered himself a “sovereign citizen”, a voter who believes they are not subject to a law unless they have consented to it. He was said to be a registered Republican who ran for the Nevada state assembly in 2022, and holds a master’s degree from the University of California, Los Angeles. Miller was released on bail to appear in court in January.

1andrew1 13-10-2024 23:14
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36184157)
I was having tea at my sons yesterday and my granddaughter declared she hopes kamala harris wins the election,when i asked why she answered because Donald Trump tells lies ,she's only 6 years old, kids seem to be so tuned in these days:)
Congratulations on having such a wise grand daughter. :tu:

Itshim 14-10-2024 14:26
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36184157)
I was having tea at my sons yesterday and my granddaughter declared she hopes kamala harris wins the election,when i asked why she answered because Donald Trump tells lies ,she's only 6 years old, kids seem to be so tuned in these days:)
NOT arguing but which doesnt:shocked:

papa smurf 14-10-2024 15:02
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36184296)
NOT arguing but which doesnt:shocked:
i can't think of one :)

papa smurf 23-10-2024 08:47
Re: US Election 2024
 
Trump's team accuses Labour of election interference

The complaint cites media reports about meetings between Labour and the Harris campaign, as well as volunteering efforts by Labour activists in the US.

US law states foreign nationals can't be paid to take part in campaign activity.

The Trump campaign's complaint points to a LinkedIn post from Sofia Patel, Labour's head of operations, in which she said nearly 100 current and former staff members would be going to the US.

The post said there were "10 spots available" for anyone who wanted to join them and that "we will sort your housing".



Starmer interfering what a shock :shocked:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1jrld1kjp3t

1andrew1 23-10-2024 08:56
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36184698)
Starmer interfering what a shock :shocked:
Not sure Starmer has been interfering, he's got enough on his hands in the UK to keep him busy!

I'm not particularly comfortable with foreign nationals helping out in election campaigns even if they are volunteers.

Hugh 23-10-2024 09:14
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quite common in the 80’s and 90’s - I knew quite a few Young Conservatives who travelled over to volunteer in the Reagan and Bush Snr election campaigns…

Not sure Trump wants to open up the Pandora’s Box of foreign countries interfering in US elections… ;)

Pierre 23-10-2024 09:20
Re: US Election 2024
 
I'm unsure why the democrats would need, or want, 100 soppy Brits to go over and assist in their campaign but I don't see an issue with it as long as they're doing everything correctly.

Stephen 23-10-2024 11:23
Re: US Election 2024
 
UK parties have been sending volunteers over to help with elections for years. It's not new and it's certainly not interference, Trump is that confused he doesn't know the meaning of the word.

No different than Farage or anyone that promoted him in recent years.

Chris 23-10-2024 11:51
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36184702)
I'm unsure why the democrats would need, or want, 100 soppy Brits to go over and assist in their campaign but I don't see an issue with it as long as they're doing everything correctly.
I can’t imagine they’d turn down an offer to do the grunt work nobody else wants, hoofing leaflets about the place or whatever. And for the Labour Party hacks, getting to treat another country’s electoral process like it’s one massive theme park is doubtless a dream come true. Everyone’s a winner.

Kursk 23-10-2024 12:01
Re: US Election 2024
 
It doesn't look right to me that the Labour Government's Head of Operations is drumming up paid election support for a particular candidate in another Country, no matter how Sir Keir Starmer tries to sugar coat it :td:.

1andrew1 23-10-2024 12:20
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36184712)
It doesn't look right to me that the Labour Government's Head of Operations is drumming up paid election support for a particular candidate in another Country, no matter how Sir Keir Starmer tries to sugar coat it :td:.
What's your feeling about Farage getting involved in Trump's campaign? I'm against foreign nationals getting hands-on in foreign countries' elections.

Stephen 23-10-2024 12:30
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36184712)
It doesn't look right to me that the Labour Government's Head of Operations is drumming up paid election support for a particular candidate in another Country, no matter how Sir Keir Starmer tries to sugar coat it :td:.
They aren't paid though. It's only allowed as long as they are volunteering.

papa smurf 23-10-2024 13:04
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36184712)
It doesn't look right to me that the Labour Government's Head of Operations is drumming up paid election support for a particular candidate in another Country, no matter how Sir Keir Starmer tries to sugar coat it :td:.
If Trump wins the election i foresee a very frosty relationship that will dammage the UK

1andrew1 23-10-2024 15:14
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36184719)
If Trump wins the election i foresee a very frosty relationship that will dammage the UK
Ex-MI6 Chief has said a similar thing. He thinks we will get caught between the EU, China and the US on trade battles.

papa smurf 23-10-2024 15:26
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36184720)
Ex-MI6 Chief has said a similar thing. He thinks we will get caught between the EU, China and the US on trade battles.
I think Trump will exact his revenge on the UK for what the labour party have said and done

1andrew1 23-10-2024 15:43
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36184721)
I think Trump will exact his revenge on the UK for what the labour party have said and done
Yup, supporting Ukraine won't have gone done well with Trump.

papa smurf 23-10-2024 15:47
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36184722)
Yup, supporting Ukraine won't have gone done well with Trump.
i was refering to Lammy insulting him and what he now see's as election interference

Dave42 23-10-2024 16:49
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36184712)
It doesn't look right to me that the Labour Government's Head of Operations is drumming up paid election support for a particular candidate in another Country, no matter how Sir Keir Starmer tries to sugar coat it :td:.
guess it all right for Farage and Putin helping Trump though

Itshim 23-10-2024 17:38
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36184724)
guess it all right for Farage and Putin helping Trump though
Not organised by reform for Farage . If Trump wins ,the uk government will have a lots of crawling to do.:p:

1andrew1 23-10-2024 17:46
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36184727)
Not organised by reform for Farage . If Trump wins ,the uk government will have a lots of crawling to do.:p:
We don't know who organised Farage's trips to the USA do we? Could have been Reform.

Don't worry, Lammy began the crawling back in May!
Quote:
Donald Trump is "often misunderstood" over his commitment to Nato, shadow foreign secretary David Lammy has said during a goodwill mission to the US.

Despite "shocking" comments about European allies, Mr Lammy said the ex-president's time in the White House had led to a better-funded Nato alliance.

Mr Lammy previously called Mr Trump a "neo-Nazi sympathising sociopath".

But he said Labour would work with a future Trump administration, in a speech at a Republican think tank.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68983472

Kursk 23-10-2024 17:49
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36184715)
What's your feeling about Farage getting involved in Trump's campaign? I'm against foreign nationals getting hands-on in foreign countries' elections.
I agree but Nigel Farage isn't in the UK Government. The actions of a senior member of Labour staff reflect upon the Government and that could affect us all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36184717)
They aren't paid though. It's only allowed as long as they are volunteering.
Thought their accommodation was being covered which seems like a paid incentive to me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36184719)
If Trump wins the election i foresee a very frosty relationship that will damage the UK
When will Labour do something right like, for example, dealing with the flotilla of Boaty McBoatfaces or robbing pensioners, oh wait, they sorted out the pensioners on Day 1. They like a soft target.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36184724)
guess it all right for Farage and Putin helping Trump though
Is Nigel Farage or President Putin in the UK Government then?

Sir Keir still thinks Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister.

Pierre 23-10-2024 18:10
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36184721)
I think Trump will exact his revenge on the UK for what the labour party have said and done
Trump is an Anglophile, just throw the royal family at him, state visit and banquet, butter him up like a massive Christmas Turkey and he’ll be very forgiving.

papa smurf 23-10-2024 18:17
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36184729)
I agree but Nigel Farage isn't in the UK Government. The actions of a senior member of Labour staff reflect upon the Government and that could affect us all.



Thought their accommodation was being covered which seems like a paid incentive to me?



When will Labour do something right like, for example, dealing with the flotilla of Boaty McBoatfaces or robbing pensioners, oh wait, they sorted out the pensioners on Day 1. They like a soft target.



Is Nigel Farage or President Putin in the UK Government then?

Sir Keir still thinks Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister.

Got a letter today telling me i'm not getting WFP,as if i didn't know,they'll be sending out 10,000,000 of them at who knows what cost

---------- Post added at 18:17 ---------- Previous post was at 18:15 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36184730)
Trump is an Anglophile, just throw the royal family at him, state visit and banquet, butter him up like a massive Christmas Turkey and he’ll be very forgiving.
Charlie is a misserable old git ,he won't do that, he can't even find time for his son.

1andrew1 23-10-2024 18:22
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36184732)
Charlie is a miserable old git ,he won't do that, he can't even find time for his son.
Prince William would give it a go I'm sure.

Hugh 23-10-2024 18:36
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36184727)
Not organised by reform for Farage . If Trump wins ,the uk government will have a lots of crawling to do.:p:
Farage is Reform…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1729704859

Paul 23-10-2024 19:04
Re: US Election 2024
 
Strange he/they dont seem to know what date he was born, still, Google can help with that, it was 03/04/1964. ;)

1andrew1 23-10-2024 19:31
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36184740)
Strange he/they dont seem to know what date he was born, still, Google can help with that, it was 03/04/1964. ;)
Nor just Farage, Companies House always redacts the day but displays a director's month and year of birth.

Pierre 23-10-2024 21:19
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36184732)
Charlie is a misserable old git ,he won't do that, he can't even find time for his son.
He’ll do as he’s told.

And Harry’s a complete dick, ignoring him is a strength not a weakness

Kursk 24-10-2024 11:47
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36184732)
Got a letter today telling me i'm not getting WFP,as if i didn't know,they'll be sending out 10,000,000 of them at who knows what cost
Sounds like age discrimination to me. Unfair treatment of (most) older people because of their age. But then, The Equality Act 2010 will be useful for burning when the cold months set in when the withdrawal of the WFP has a direct detrimental impact on the health of seniors.

Damien 24-10-2024 12:03
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36184761)
Sounds like age discrimination to me. Unfair treatment of (most) older people because of their age. But then, The Equality Act 2010 will be useful for burning when the cold months set in when the withdrawal of the WFP has a direct detrimental impact on the health of seniors.
That would be an argument if younger people were getting WFP. Then they would be being treated differently because of their age.

1andrew1 24-10-2024 12:09
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36184763)
That would be an argument if younger people were getting WFP. Then they would be being treated differently because of their age.
Exactly.

Hugh 24-10-2024 14:09
Re: US Election 2024
 
Back on topic, please.

thenry 25-10-2024 12:45
Re: US Election 2024
 
The world wants to unite to become one big super power. Have they who want this forgotten nobody will ever own the whole world. I don't understand the gangbang personally but hey ho. Trump is somebody that's shown America has too much power. His significance is superior because of the state of this world. Why he gets a bad time is beyond me. Why not blame the power individuals hold, or have created?

Chris 25-10-2024 12:57
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36184806)
The world wants to unite to become one big super power. Have they who want this forgotten nobody will ever own the whole world. I don't understand the gangbang personally but hey ho. Trump is somebody that's shown America has too much power. His significance is superior because of the state of this world. Why he gets a bad time is beyond me. Why not blame the power individuals hold, or have created?
I have literally no idea what most of this means.

However to answer ‘why he gets a bad time is beyond me’ is pretty simple to answer. He’s an adjudicated rapist, a known con-man and convicted criminal, who is about to go to court again to answer the charge that he attempted to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after losing a democratic election. His character and temperament are wholly unsuited to high office, which is why most of the people who served in his administration from 2017 to 2021 have refused to back him, some even going so far as to publicly back his Democrat opponent - as have a number of prominent GOP state governors.

Even if you disagree with the assessment of those who worked with him and know him best, to claim their reasoning is somehow beyond you is not very credible.

thenry 25-10-2024 13:16
Re: US Election 2024
 
Dude, he has power from what he inherited as leader of the world, I mean free world. What's he going to do as a minority, leader of Belarus for example? Who does he befriend.

I read your post as if, not just you but many other think they themselves are perfect. I don't believe his character isn't fit for office. I believe America is being shown up for who it really is.

My original post meant to say simply a world orgy isn't the way to go. We should be proud of authenticity. You only get that by bringing your own self to the table, not a diluted version influenced by others. Why can the world not be proud of different walks of life?

Chris 25-10-2024 13:27
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36184808)
Dude, he has power from what he inherited as leader of the world, I mean free world. What's he going to do as a minority, leader of Belarus for example? Who does he befriend.

I read your post as if, not just you but many other think they themselves are perfect. I don't believe his character isn't fit for office. I believe America is being shown up for who it really is.

My original post meant to say simply a world orgy isn't the way to go. We should be proud of authenticity. You only get that by bringing your own self to the table, not a diluted version influenced by others. Why can the world not be proud of different walks of life?
I think you’re very confused.

Mr K 25-10-2024 13:34
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36184811)
I think you’re very confused.
Goes for the majority of the USA. Mostly nutters which is Donny might get his get out jail free card.

thenry 25-10-2024 13:36
Re: US Election 2024
 
I probably am to be fair but I still hold the opinion that not any one person owns this world. It's split up for a reason.

Hugh 25-10-2024 14:01
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36184815)
I probably am to be fair but I still hold the opinion that not any one person owns this world. It's split up for a reason.
I think your base assumption is invalid…

Quote:
The world wants to unite to become one big super power

thenry 25-10-2024 14:04
Re: US Election 2024
 
Why? The US agenda is forever vocal.

Hugh 25-10-2024 14:15
Re: US Election 2024
 
USA ≠ The World (no matter what some of them may think…)

thenry 25-10-2024 14:19
Re: US Election 2024
 
I believe so which is why Trump reined it in

1andrew1 25-10-2024 14:33
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36184824)
I believe so which is why Trump reined it in
Reigned what in?

thenry 25-10-2024 14:36
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36184830)
Reigned what in?
NATO I think

Hugh 25-10-2024 15:20
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36184832)
NATO I think
Please provide an example.

thenry 25-10-2024 15:46
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36184839)
Please provide an example.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/13/p...ato/index.html

I've got a memory of him saying he would leave NATO. I might be confusing myself with something else :confused:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/12/p...ser/index.html

Hugh 25-10-2024 17:02
Re: US Election 2024
 
Your previous example was in the past tense, the current evidence is in the (potential) future, which he can't do anyway...

The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024 prohibits the President from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO without approval of a two-third Senate super-majority or an act of Congress.

thenry 25-10-2024 17:10
Re: US Election 2024
 
Bless your intelligence which I sadly don't have. I thought he said something about NATO during his first term as President, it may have been withdrawing from something else. Those links was all I found off Google.

I guess that's not happening then. The senate won't vote to withdraw. They love global domination.

Damien 25-10-2024 17:12
Re: US Election 2024
 
We don't want them to withdraw anyway, they've been underwriting European defence for decades.

Hugh 25-10-2024 18:33
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36184851)
We don't want them to withdraw anyway, they've been underwriting European defence for decades.
tbf, it was mainly to help provide a buffer/road bump against the Warsaw Pact during the Cold War - enlightened self-interest…

Pierre 25-10-2024 21:00
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36184807)
However to answer ‘why he gets a bad time is beyond me’ is pretty simple to answer. He’s an adjudicated rapist, a known con-man and convicted criminal, who is about to go to court again to answer the charge that he attempted to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after losing a democratic election. His character and temperament are wholly unsuited to high office, which is why most of the people who served in his administration from 2017 to 2021 have refused to back him, some even going so far as to publicly back his Democrat opponent - as have a number of prominent GOP state governors.
And still……..he comes across as infinitely more capable and electable than his opponent.

She is a vacuous, puppet.

Unfortunately, a capable criminal (he’s not a criminal but I’ll play) is more preferable than the anointed successor of a presidential coup.

Damien 25-10-2024 21:20
Re: US Election 2024
 
The election looks absurdly close. Literally, 50/50 going into the final week and a bit.

There is also now a good chance that Harris could win the electoral college but lose the popular vote which would be crazy: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/25/u...-election.html

Pierre 25-10-2024 21:45
Re: US Election 2024
 
Harris is a terrible candidate. Dementia Biden or Vacuous Harris……you’re getting the same administration.

The problem with American elections now though is that they cannot secure the ballots.

It’s far too open to fraud and manipulation, either side can call foul and dispute the result.

Damien 25-10-2024 22:01
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36184867)
Harris is a terrible candidate. Dementia Biden or Vacuous Harris……you’re getting the same administration.

The problem with American elections now though is that they cannot secure the ballots.

It’s far too open to fraud and manipulation, either side can call foul and dispute the result.
Well, they're both poor candidates hence the close race. The Democrats probably should have a full primary but after Biden dropped out - who was certain to lose after that debate - she was the easiest replacement. Still the right one after she won her debate whereas Biden would probably have lost again.

Their system is nuts but there wasn't any evidence of mass fraud and manipulation at the last few elections. The biggest problems they have are long queues, not enough polling stations in some districts and they take forever to count them.

Trump will contest the result but if he wins I hope Harris won't. Americans need to get back to a peaceful transfer of power otherwise I think it's not repairable. If Trump wins and she accepts then at least that will be one less problem for them going forward.

Mick 26-10-2024 07:23
Re: US Election 2024
 
Early voting data shows, Trump winning this, unlike 2020, Harris hasn’t obtained a firewall protection in key states, compared to Biden, this same time prior to election day. Betting markets, also favour Trump.

Harris’s issue is, all she does is attack Trump, has zero policies, is absolutely dire, answering basic questions, & all she spouts is a word salad.

1andrew1 26-10-2024 09:14
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36184890)
Early voting data shows, Trump winning this, unlike 2020, Harris hasn’t obtained a firewall protection in key states, compared to Biden, this same time prior to election day. Betting markets, also favour Trump.

Harris’s issue is, all she does is attack Trump, has zero policies, is absolutely dire, answering basic questions, & all she spouts is a word salad.
Harris and Trump have many faults but Trump owns the word 🥗 award!

Chris 26-10-2024 11:13
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36184890)
Early voting data shows, Trump winning this, unlike 2020, Harris hasn’t obtained a firewall protection in key states, compared to Biden, this same time prior to election day. Betting markets, also favour Trump.

Harris’s issue is, all she does is attack Trump, has zero policies, is absolutely dire, answering basic questions, & all she spouts is a word salad.
Mmm. You mean like Polymarket, substantially underwritten by GOP mega-donor Peter Theil, and which has to date taken $45 million in microbets on Trump from four accounts controlled by one unknown individual?

The problem with the idea that betting markets best predict elections is that once a few extremely wealthy, politically motivated individuals understand that, betting markets become prime disinformation vehicles. Especially in the context of a US election, where political betting is illegal and the site in question is therefore overseas and out of reach.

At this stage the only polls that count are the internal ones we can’t see directly. But look at the demeanour of Trump. Look at Vance. And look at Harris, who held a major rally in Texas - Texas - yesterday. Less than a fortnight before the election and she’s not even in one of the swing states you think she’s losing. She believes Texas is in play.

These are the facts you as a GOP fan should be worrying about. ;)

---------- Post added at 11:13 ---------- Previous post was at 11:09 ----------

P.S. with GOP talking points right now, the adage ’every accusation is an admission’ is very much in play. Accusing Harris of having verbal diarrhoea is a vain attempt to distract from the diarrhoea filling Trump's rallies - and his nappies - whenever he takes to the stage.

Stephen 26-10-2024 11:18
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36184890)
Early voting data shows, Trump winning this, unlike 2020, Harris hasn’t obtained a firewall protection in key states, compared to Biden, this same time prior to election day. Betting markets, also favour Trump.

Harris’s issue is, all she does is attack Trump, has zero policies, is absolutely dire, answering basic questions, & all she spouts is a word salad.
Sorry Mick but you have all that backwards. Trump is the one constantly attacking Harris and Waltz. Harris has policies and has talked about them. Trump and Vance have nothing other than, we'll put everyone in Jail if we get in to power that doesn't speak nicely to us, to be fair that's more a Trump thing. Vance just casually goes along with it.

Oh and word salad, Trump definitely has the world's bestest word salad trophy in the box.

Mick 26-10-2024 11:25
Re: US Election 2024
 
Texas is definitely not in play for Harris. Early voting data shows, she’s struggling gaining a comfortable cushion in most States, like Biden had this time in 2020.

---------- Post added at 11:25 ---------- Previous post was at 11:22 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36184896)
Sorry Mick but you have all that backwards. Trump is the one constantly attacking Harris and Waltz. Harris has policies and has talked about them. Trump and Vance have nothing other than, we'll put everyone in Jail if we get in to power that doesn't speak nicely to us, to be fair that's more a Trump thing. Vance just casually goes along with it.

Oh and word salad, Trump definitely has the world's bestest word salad trophy in the box.
Rubbish. Totally disagree with all that. The CNN debate on Wednesday night, she even lost that & she was the only one there, not answering in meaningful sentences.

Pierre 26-10-2024 11:56
Re: US Election 2024
 
Well Trump has just done a 3hr session with Joe Rogan, that I am going to listen to later. There aren’t many places to hide in a 3hr interview/discussion.

You can guarantee it’s not scripted or that he won’t have been given any questions beforehand, so his mental agility will there for all to see and hear.

Stephen 26-10-2024 12:10
Re: US Election 2024
 
He was too busy doing that podcast to turn up for his rally scheduled at the same time. So he was 3 hours late for the rally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...e93_video.html
Quote:
Many Trump rally-goers left the venue after former president Donald Trump was around three hours late to his own rally in Traverse City, Mich., on Oct. 25.

Pierre 26-10-2024 12:30
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36184902)
He was too busy doing that podcast to turn up for his rally scheduled at the same time. So he was 3 hours late for the rally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...e93_video.html
Joe Rogan has an audience of near 20million, time well spent I would imagine. His fans won’t mind waiting

Stephen 26-10-2024 12:47
Re: US Election 2024
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36184904)
Joe Rogan has an audience of near 20million, time well spent I would imagine. His fans won’t mind waiting
Lots of people were seen leaving. They weren't told about the delay and only shown a video of Trump after already waiting a while.

Quote:
The former president started hours late, causing many rally goers to leave before he took the stage. The temperature dropped at the outdoor venue as he spoke, causing even more people to walk out early.
There was also person(s) collapsing again. So he paused and played Ave Maria again.


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