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It does look like it is the modern version of snake oil.

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Snapchat or Snaptrap?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001p4mk

A schoolgirl tells how she was groomed into taking drugs and then raped by members of a gang.

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And which social media company "encouraged" her?

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This should be interesting, Richard must have evidence to make such a full blown accusation that snapchat was putting kids in touch with criminals.

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I’ve been groomed by cable forum.

I’m not going into it.

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Had you watched it you'd know why such a statement has been made. Whether they meant to or not, this is what's happening.

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In fairness my Facebook tries to put me in touch with criminals all the time. There’s a whole section of stolen property called “Facebook Marketplace”.

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Facebook Marketplace is where most reported scams originate.

About halfway through this mornings 'Sunday Morning Live', has a discussion about whether U16's should be banned from having a Smartphone.

It was a fair and balanced discussion with references to the harm that user to user sites can cause and a bisexual woman commented that they can save lives too because, as she did, LGBT+ children can search for help in understanding & learning about their sexualitu.

Another suggested that, instead of banning them, it would be better to include education about them in schools on responsible use.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001wsqs

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From time to time I see Facebook ads for illegal IPTV and Google Cast clones that promise free access to all pay TV services for a small one-off amount. All backed up by fake endorsements on Facebook accounts and the ability for the criminals to hide negative posts. I suspect this is the tip of the iceberg.

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If it looks to good to be ..............:shocked:

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Streaming - it's the future.

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I agree. Despite Martin Lewis suing them for allowing people to falsely use his image to endorse scams, it's still going on.

Both the scammers and some websites really think that they can do as they please regardless of the law and the effects on people.

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Easier for unlawful vendors to block negative comments on their fraudulent Facebook ads than it is to get those ads taken down.

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Absolutely.

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So a report out states that 'In 2021/22, 34% of young people aged 18 to 24 reported symptoms of a mental disorder, such as depression, anxiety or bipolar disorder.' & 'The research also found that 79% of 18 to 24 year olds who are "workless" due to ill health only have qualifications at GCSE level or below.'

Along with a report that states..'Turn up for an interview? We just couldn't be bothered, say a mind-blowing 93% of 18-24 year olds'

So what exactly is going wrong?

Still nothing on the actual causes or reasons for what's happening. Again why is that?? Is it online content, social media, influenced, snowflake generation that can't handle real life, rewarding losers, pandering, lack of discipline, lack of support (for what exactly)? Or just lost hope with the way things are in general?

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I think lost hope with the way things are in general, and its not just the younger adults (our future), I see it in many other age groups too.

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and ....
Plus, of course, they think they are entitled to do as they please, and get paid for doing nothing.

For the record, it doesnt apply to all 18 - 24 year olds.

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Parents that can’t parent, an education system that measures everything against grades.

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Social media is also being used to manipulate & interfere with elections in countries other than their own:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001wq29

Whilst proper political debate & discussion of ideas is a good thing, manipulation from other countries is not.

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Well you learn something new every day don't you. :doh::nutter: :rolleyes:

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Ha ha ha

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'DR MARTIN SCURR: Get a grip, Generation Snowflake! I know what's causing 'rising tide' of mental health issues among the young... and who is to blame' - Daily Mail (sorry)

He does raise some valid points. But the comments are worth a read.

https://12ft.io/https://www.dailymai...ung-blame.html

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Parents that give their children an unrealistic expectation of success. Look, if you've got the mental ability of slug you're not going to be a brain surgeon, you'll be collecting the trolleys in the car park at Sainsbury's. No doubt with a Mickey Mouse degree in stupidity and a debt as well.

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He does raise some valid points. He acknowledges that mental health needed to be destigmatised, but that self diagnosis or everyday normal parts of the human condition shouldn't be classed as a mental health condition.

Depression is more than being a bit fed up for a few days, anxiety is more than being nervous before a driving test and saying "I'm having an autistic moment" is insulting to those that actually suffer from it.

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I agree. We can't all be chiefs without anybody being the Indians & their contributions are just as important.

I always say that the brain surgeon wouldn't be able to get to work if the streets were full of rubbish because there were no road sweepers.

I also think that many parents these days don't prepare them for the real world. They are taught that they are special & important (they won't be to the majority out in the real world), that they have a right to hold & express an opinion to everyone (not always advisable to employers, the police etc.)

Before I retired I asked a new member of staff to empty the ashtrays out in the smoking area. "It's a filthy habit and I want nothing to do with it. I don't empty ashtrays". At the end of his trial period shift I told him that there was something else that he didn't do and that was work for us anymore.

A lot really think that they are doing employers a big favour by turning up for work at all.

The number that are basically illiterate (I blame spellchecker & text speak) is shocking, particularly when we're told that they are all leaving school with top grades.

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or ...
;)

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This really shocked me:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...year-olds.html

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Well some of them really do live fantasy land.
What careers ? You actually have to have a job first, to have any chance of a career.

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About 17 mins in Martin Lewis talks about how he campaigned for scam adverts to be included in the Online Safety Act.

He says that the problem now is that some people think that all adverts have been vetted when they haven't.

He advises people not to click on any advert on social media, especially if they involve investments as these are very likely to be a scam:

https://www.itv.com/watch/this-morni...60/1a1960a9664

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What's this got to do with online harm?

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It could be said it's the state of Gen Zs today due to factors like the influences of social media perhaps?

Quote ''However keen, they arrive at interview – if they turn up – asking what my company can do for them rather than what they can offer. No doubt youngsters see influencers on social media working from a beach, and believe they should be able to do the same.'

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Heaven forbid a worker wants to know what’s in it for them with an employer. If that employer wants to be honest and say a zero hour contract on the minimum wage then that’s within their gift.

The non-attendance at interviews thing is interesting. Would be intriguing to see the underlying dataset for it. My guess would be websites with individuals applying for roles on and industrial scale (via a recruitment website) then only considering the ones that offer an interview. A bit like swiping yes to everyone on tinder and vetting the matches.

A comparison with the non-attendance figure for more traditional recruitment methods - direct contact with the employer at an early stage, perhaps dealing with a named person (the recruiting manager or someone in HR) I suspect would be revealing.

Blaming social media for that outcome is just jumping on a useful bandwagon.

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I don't disagree with you but there is probably a link. Are they (Gen Zs) just lazy, a change in attitudes towards work, or just not equipped to deal with real life. It has to stem from something. Such as...

"One possible reason why Gen Z employees take more sick leave than other employees in the UK is their increased awareness of mental health issues (Up to 1 sick day a week). A recent study by Deloitte found that Gen Z is more likely to seek help for mental health problems than previous generations."

https://hrdocbox.co.uk/article-full....e-uk-workplace

Add this to the other link that states " This ‘rising tide’ of mental health issues is, I fear, largely driven by self-diagnosis and social media "

It does seems that Gen Z's are getting a lot of stick right now that's for sure.

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It’s almost as if there is an election coming up that will pit the interests of generations against each other.

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I must admit that this is a really disturbing read...

'Revealed: the names linked to ClothOff, the deepfake pornography app' - The Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...inked-revealed

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One day’s sick leave a week? Sounds like a good wheeze.

I think most employers wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole.

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What’s in it for them? So the employer should be thanking employees now for the courtesy of even applying for a job? Talk about perverse! The money is what’s in it for them, that’s what!

As for your zero hours contracts comment, that’s a matter of individual choice. If you don’t want insecurity of hours allocated to you, go for a permanent contract offering a basic wage or salary. Zero hours contracts are for people who want flexibility of their working hours.

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It is indeed a matter of individual choice - so if a potential employee wants to take their labour elsewhere or, having done more research on a company decides to not attend the interview, that's their right to do so.

Contracts for people who wants flexibility tend to be called "flexible working" or "flexi-time". Zero hour contracts are just a way to exploit the low paid - unsurprising you are in support!

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After being sexually assaulted a woman called Olivia Deramus opened what she describes as 'A safe online space for women' called Communia.

Please be advised that this feature contains references to sexual assault and the upset it causes. From about 0:13:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001t72n

It also features a report on Twitter where, since the removal of content moderation, homophobic, sexist & racist content was reported, but no action was taken. All they did was tell them to use the block feature, which they found to be unacceptable. One of the priorities of Ofcom will be to make websites comply with their own rules on such behaviour.

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So two things jump out at me there - they were unhappy being told to take some responsibility in their life and block stuff they don't like, and secondly just how are OFCOM going to make companies like X comply with our rules?

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Is understanding – even forgiveness of internet trolls possible?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/
m001wq7n

This programme also looks at the case of Joey Barton who started trolling Eni Aluko
who is now suing him for libel.

It also looks at how people think it's fine to troll people online, whereas they wouldn't
say it to their face verbally.

Once one person does it, others come crawling out of the woodwork to pile on
the victim and this is a well known phenomenon. In essence, they are deflecting their own feelings of inferiority onto others to make themselves feel better. They are unable to discuss matters in a mature fashion & resort to making things personal and abusive.

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Many of the ones I've seen would, they are not the brightest sparks.

That's an opinion, not fact, and again, many of the ones I've come across very much think they are superior.

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I'm not into football as much as yourself, what do you think about Joey Barton?

From the little that i've seen of him he seemed to be a bit of a cheeky footballer, but I never had him down as doing what he's done.

If he doesn't like Eni Aluko as a commentator, that's fair enough, but to troll her like he has is out of order.

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How has he ‘trolled’ her?

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Said something like... "How is she even talking about Men’s football. She can’t even kick a ball properly. ����

Your coverage of the game EFC last night, took it to a new low.

Eni Aluko and Lucy Ward, the Fred and Rose West of football commentary. "

And...

"After receiving a barrage of abuse, he described men who stand up for female commentators as eunuchs and added: “Stand by everything I’ve said on Women commenting and co-comms on the Men’s football.

“Like me talking about Knitting or Netball. Way out of my comfort zone.

“Some of the Men are bad enough!

“We have gone too far. You cannot watch a game now without hearing the nonsense.

“Any man who says otherwise is an absolute fart parcel.”

That said, he is a nobhead, and there'll always be nobheads. It depends on your ability to ignore those nobheads. But to say Eni Aluko was too scared to leave the house is a bit over the top. Anyone from an outsider's view could take that as a bit of an over reaction, to the point where you do think she's a bit pathetic. That's just just seems a way these days to gain the attention and the ammo for any legal issues. But seems to be the norm these days.

Still I'm a firm believer if you've got nothing good to say, then best to say nothing at all.

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If only ;).

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I take that wink was towards myself. Well you can't please everyone.

Someone will always find ways be offended when there's discussions / debates on forums etc. But to go out of your way to just flame and troll is another matter.

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No, I've no issues with anything you said, sorry if I gave that impression.

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Ah no worries, an easy mistake I will admit. :)

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He posted how he disagrees with her commentating. :rolleyes:

I see (well hear) his point in some cases, they are high pitch screetches that are painful to listen too.
However, there are some that are ok as well, I have no idea about Eni Aluko, as I dont recognise the name.

I notice he then got "abuse" (dont know what), but no one seems to mind that ... :erm:

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Apparently, because it was a high profile ex footballer who refused to take down his messages, this encouraged others to pile on due to the phenomenon mentioned earlier. Sheeple went on to make racist, sexist remarks and threatened her family.

Reports to X were ignored by them.

These selfish people are also probably
aware that these days it won't usually be them that carries the can, but the site
owners and their moderators who face sanctions including fines, or even jail time, due to their posts.

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Nothing wrong with politely/respectfully saying that you don't care for her style of commentating. It's when it becomes insulting, libellous, racist, sexist, threatening etc that crosses the line.

Barton is fully entitled to take action against any abuse against himself if he so wishes.

I think he's a football manager now, so you'd think that his employers would want to do something if this reflects badly on them, brings the club into disrepute etc.

People seem to think that they can do/say anything they want outside of work, but a lot have found out the hard way that this is not the case.

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I’ve listened to him on several interviews and his position is that many, if not most, of these female “pundits”….not hosts..are nothing more than diversity hires and that their knowledge, and analysis, of the man’s game is poor. And that they’re there to fulfil a quota, taking a job away from other ex-professional footballers better qualified.

I personally think he has a point.

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Although I don't disagree the same is true of male pundits.

People are getting appointed based on their ability to generate social media clicks.

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That's totally fine if this is how he feels, it was the innapropriate remarks, racism, sexism and threats that followed that are the problem and why he's being taken to court.

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In todays 'Sunday Morning With Laura Kuenssberg' at about 0:34

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001x0sm

The parent of a girl who ended up killing herself after online bullying went to see the PM earlier this week in connection with the campaign to ban smartphones for under 16's.

The father of another girl who was literally bullied to death also wants a specific law to ban cyber bullying. Mariano gives a moving interview about losing his daughter (and wife shortly afterwards) and how appallingly her school dealt with the situation.

As usual one, or a small group of people starts doing it, nothing effective or nothing at all is done about it. This gives rise to the phenomenon of others feeling that they have permission to join in and so it snowballs. They do it to disempower people by grinding them down, strip them of any confidence or self esteem and the poor girl ended up committing suicide.

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What did he say that was “racist”? Or “sexist” …….although I don’t think it’s illegal to be misogynistic, at least not yet.

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In todays 'Sunday Morning With Laura Kuenssberg' at about 0:34

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001x0sm

The parent of a girl who ended up killing herself after online bullying went to see the PM earlier this week in connection with the campaign to ban smartphones for under 16's.

The father of another girl who was literally bullied to death also wants a specific law to ban cyber bullying. Mariano gives a moving interview about losing his daughter (and wife shortly afterwards) and how appallingly her school dealt with the situation.

As usual one, or a small group of people starts doing it, nothing effective or nothing at all is done about it. This gives rise to the phenomenon of others feeling that they have permission to join in and so it snowballs. They do it to disempower people by grinding them down, strip them of any confidence or self esteem and the poor girl ended up committing suicide.

Later on in the morning a new term 'antifans' was explained. It's where former fans of celebrities, influencers etc have gone off them for some reason and start mercilessly criticising them for how they look, what they wear, how they walk etc.

The conclusion was that those who constantly criticisise others are jealous.

What sort of a nasty waste of time life are some people leading? The internet has given us lots of wonderful opportunities, but it has a nasty side to it that needs sorting out.

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It's all explained in the programme.

Whether something is illegal to say or not, if it amounts to harrassment it becomes illegal. The definition of what is harrassment is when an individual feels harassed. This was reiterated on this mornings political programmes on BBC1.

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I asked you. I haven’t watched the programme nor intend to.

According to you, as you said it, what has he said that is racist and sexist?

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From about 0:06 there is an interview with the Disinformation & Social Media Correspondent at the BBC;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/
m001x0xl

Marriana Spring explains that her role covers everything bad on social media, including trolls, conspiracy theories & the part that algorithms play in encouraging people to go to sites that are harmful.

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This is the story of Molly, a 14 year old girl, and her father Ian Russell. It looks at how the introduction of the non-chronological feed by Instagram may have altered the course of his daughters life.

7% of 13-15 year old children have seen self harm content over the previous 7 days. During the same period over half of all Instagram users had had a bad experience.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001x0xl

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What is 'harmful'? And what constitutes a bad experience?

Are things like 'You've Been Framed' kind of stunts that go wrong self harming like parkour, skate boarding etc? Is comparing yourself to air brushed models a bad experience? As for conspiracy theories, well is that bad? Some are fun, some are stupid, and some can make a person to have an open mind. Also what are these harmful sites?

The only things I can think of that is classed as self harming are things like cutting and not eating etc. It's all too vague.

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Yes, as well as sites that encourage suicide or provide details of how to do it.

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I would sign up for this if it was able to remove Trolls from forums.

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Sign up for the Online Safety Act?

You don't need to, everyone is covered automatically. If you are being trolled on any site the process is to complain to the site in the usual way. If they don't respond in a way that you're happy with (or at all as a lot seem to do), you can then take matters to their regulator (Ofcom) who will make a decision that both parties must abide by

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I seem to spend most of my time online, extensive 'normal' browsing etc but I've never come across anything to do with self harming in all my years so far. They must be searching for such content. Probably tallies with the level of mental health issues for that age group.

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Yes, from what the programme said they might casually search about depression or wonder how people kill themselves. The algorithm then starts serving up material like this in the same way as it would if someone searched something about a particular flower or a band.

Then, because they are depressed and thinking about suicide they become encouraged to harm themselves. Ian Russell said that his daughter didn't stand a chance after this started happening.

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I’m not aware of this story, but what action did the parent(s) take ?

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So basically anything dodgy or harmful could or should be taken out of the algorithm, the rest then is fair game. Doesn't seem like too much to ask. But back to reality... :shrug:

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https://mollyrosefoundation.org/moll...thers-journey/

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Exactly. I think they'll be forced to act though for one reason or another.

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No, what parental action did he the parent(s) take to monitor their childs health

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Can any parent control the use of a teenagers usage of the internet? They are glued to their phones, it's the norm these days.

That along with they'll never say the truth, or they could just find it hard to talk to anyone. What can parents really do? Saying that, when you read about what this girl was up to online and for how long those questions do need to be asked.

(From the Guardian).. "The darker side of Molly’s online life overwhelmed her. Of 16,300 pieces of content saved, liked or shared by Molly on Instagram in the six months before she died, 2,100 were related to suicide, self-harm and depression. She last used her iPhone to access Instagram on the day of her death, at 12.45am. Two minutes before, she had saved an image on the platform that carried a depression-related slogan.

It was on Instagram – the photo-, image- and video-sharing app – that Molly viewed some of the most disturbing pieces of content, including a montage of graphic videos containing clips relating to suicide, depression and self-harm set to music. Some videos contained scenes drawn from film and TV, including 13 Reasons Why, a US drama about a teenager’s suicide that contained episodes rated 15 or 18 in the UK. In total, Molly watched 138 videos that contained suicide and self-harm content, sometimes “bingeing” on them in batches including one session on 11 November."

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...n-social-media

The facts are you can't discipline children anymore. And parents are now weaker than ever that leaves them to accommodate their children way too much. That along with what's sociably acceptable such as teenagers and phones now go hand in hand etc. Also it's a sad fact that children are mollycoddled and no long equiped to deal with the real world.

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You can control access on phones quite easily as I’ve show repeatedly either via parental controls on home internet connections or by specific SIM or hardware.
. It requires a level of effort and in some instances money.

You can discipline children, again it requires a level of parental effort and it would appear now that appeasing a child is more important than being firm yet fair with them

If a parent gives their child a mobile device OR allows them to purchase one then it’s ultimately the parents responsibility to ensure that the child uses the device in a safe and responsible manner. The end. Anything else is pure testiculation

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Have your say about whether children should be allowed to have smartphones with access to social media. For the next 30 minutes you can call Jeremy Vine on:

Call 0207 862 2222

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It makes me laugh how parents say they can't think how to keep the children entertained and how it can cost so much. In our day we went out in the morning, made out own entertainment and came back when the street lights came on.

Children aren't allowed to become bored these days and that doesn't nurture or develop their imagination.

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No, children aren't allow out to play anymore, parents would rather that they stay indoors and play on the computer or game consoles. It's now the fear of the child snatcher paedos on every street corner it seems. They can't leave the house without being tracked with their mobile phones too so they won't give them up either. Just over protective and now the norm.

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Yep. Ironically they are much more likely to be approached by a paedophile online as they perceive it as less risky to approach a child in this way than on the streets.

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On today's Jeremy Vine show when parents have tried to take away their Smartphones a headmistress called Katherine (who confiscates children's phones at the start of the day) says that parents have had a terrible time if they too try to confiscate them. Children have threatened to go on hunger strike or walk out of the door and never come back.

Some children, upon being given a book to read for the first time, were trying to move their finger across like a phone to read it!

This sounds like a joke but she said it was perfectly true.

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A surefire way to discover established, grounded and rational discourse on any subject matter.

This fails the sniff test. The child may interact with their first book at a simple level based on experience of touchscreen devices they may have handled before (e.g. when shown a video by a parent).

In practice this is no different from a young child putting a pen up its nose or in its ear. Or eating plasticine. It’s experimenting with the world around it.

Nobody is teaching their kid to read at home on a iPad then sending them to nursery or school with no concept of paper books.

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These days, you could probably have stopped at just this point.

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:)

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The first item looks at how trolling is not necessarily done by people, but bots who are organised so as to spread misinformation:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001wqdk

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Alexander Mccartney from NI whose online behavior led to the victim committing suicide has been found guilty of manslaughter.

He knew he was upsetting her and was asked to stop, but chose to continue.

Sentencing will be in May.

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A little more context to this... To say 'he knew he was upsetting her' makes it sound like your typical online moron but this person was anything but.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68525233

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Yes, he was vile.

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Just watching Accused: The Hampstead Paedophile Hoax.

A woman was sent to prison for 9 years for trolling :shocked: This is the longest sentence that i've ever come across for this type of offence.

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Far, far more than trolling:

Context:
McNeill, who was sentenced for nine years, is the legal adviser to Ella Draper
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...le-hoax-review

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Thanks, that explains why it was such a long sentence.

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Denise Polichi(sp) is described as possibly the most experienced content moderator in the world:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001x4q5

She says that people don't realise how
hard her job is because context is always key and that's often missing online. She goes on to say that the job isn't just technically difficult, it's psychologically draining too because it changes people.

"I have seen a lot of things that nobody should ever, ever have to see. There's a lot of looking at the absolute worst things that people can do to each other. Just the day in, day out grind of people being terrible to each other. It permanently injured my sense of empathy for other people".

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Right .....

Has she been doing it for 26 years ? I have. ;)

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And I'm sure this also applies to you too....

:erm: :D

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CF has never been that extreme, but we have seen our fair share of ärsehōles down the years …

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It didn't say how long she had been doing it for, just that she moderated on one of the very first social networking sites

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Indeed. When Musk bought Twitter he sacked a load of (outsourced) moderators. They said that they felt badly treated because some of the things that they were exposed to were so awful that they gave them PTSD.

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Violent online content ‘unavoidable’ for UK children, Ofcom finds.

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...en-ofcom-finds

Well that’s a bit of a spanner in the works.

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Another person is now going to sue Joey Barton as well as Ani Aluko

Jeremy Vine is to take legal action after being called a 'bike nonce' and suggestions that he has paedophilic tendencies:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jeremy-vin...xXWi4IE-pKmrGf

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They've been carrying out research with regards to children to see what needs dealing with first.

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We had the video nasties of the 80s, the violent games of the 90s+ and now it's the internet. I don't think anything is going to happen some how. Probably a case of just accepting it and educate the facts. Somethings you just can't control and the internet is one, even with the best intentions.

There are 66.11 million internet users in the UK but a few are affected due to content. Not nice but is the facts.

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There are 117 million people living in Ethopia, yet Meta only contracted for 25 content moderators for the entire area.

After a professor is slandered and doxxed on facebook, Meta failed to take down the posts either in a timely fashion or at all and he ended up getting murdered.

His son brings a multi-billion dollar case against Meta. This programme reports that the ruling could change the internet forever:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001xd93

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Equally it may not :dozey:

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Because no one in Ethiopia cares if you mis-gender someone.

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Now, now. No need for sweeping generalisations.

Ethiopia was home to 6.40 million social media users in January 2023, equating to 5.1 percent of the total population.

110 million of them might both not care and be unable to use the internet to tell anyone.

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First person to be sent to jail for breaching the Online Safety Act:

https://news.sky.com/story/nicholas-...shing-13093052

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The justice system under the Tories.

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Just been on Channel 5 that on the day the new Act came in he cyber flashed a 15 year old & a pensioner.

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Which would suggest that persons of his disposition won't stop , hi ho more bodies in jail :confused:

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Meaning what exactly :confused:

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There was a feature about banning u16's from having smartphones on This Morning earlier today. This idea seems to be gaining traction with 83% of parents thinking that this should be done.

It was said that Claudia Winklemans sister (Sophia) is now campaigning for parents to bring about change.

Another view was that it's not for the Government to deal with this, but to make the websites deal with any issues themselves. A former MP said that the Government was aiming to do this with the Online Safety Act. She went on to say that a lot of problems were caused by websites not enforcing their own rules and that this will be dealt with by imposing fines on those who fail to comply.

From about 50 mins in, less adverts:

https://www.itv.com/watch/this-morni...60/1a1960a9681