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Sephiroth 19-07-2021 18:43

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086881)
Sigh... :rolleyes:

Nigel Farage is not a leader of the party, nor a politician.

Maybe in the strict sense not a politician. But the public perception will be different.

Anyway, he's a great man and I hope he improves their ratings.

Mick 19-07-2021 18:54

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36086882)
Maybe in the strict sense not a politician. But the public perception will be different.

Anyway, he's a great man and I hope he improves their ratings.

What the public perceives and what is the actual reality, is that he publicly declared that he was retiring from political life back in March this year. He is forever affiliated with the Brexit Party/Reform Party but only in a "honorary" way. He is not the leader of it, which Hugh has incorrectly stated that he is.

papa smurf 19-07-2021 19:01

Re: GB News
 
Nigel Farage is on GB news right now starting his new slot.

Hugh 19-07-2021 19:07

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Can I just check what you’re saying - Nigel Farage, the founder,, and a current Director and Shareholder, of the Reform U.K. political party, is not a politician?

Mick 19-07-2021 19:12

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086894)
Can I just check what you’re saying - Nigel Farage, the founder,, and a current Director and Shareholder, of the Reform U.K. political party, is not a politician?

I wasn't aware a Director or shareholder of a entity, made someone a politician.

He is not in any elected position, he is not an MP, he is not a leader of a political party, so wind your feeble attempt at a "gotcha", because you have not and you are still wrong! :rolleyes:

Hugh 19-07-2021 19:19

Re: GB News
 
Well, he needs to update his political party's Company House listing, then...

When the entity of which he is a director of is a Political Party, there's a bit of linkage there.

Carth 19-07-2021 19:22

Re: GB News
 
https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-far...-work-12238504


https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/20...m-party-leader


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...party-politics


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56311599

Well that's my mind made up on the current debate, public perception and all that :D

1andrew1 19-07-2021 19:22

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086894)
Can I just check what you’re saying - Nigel Farage, the founder,, and a current Director and Shareholder, of the Reform U.K. political party, is not a politician?

It will be interesting to see if the mainstream media pick this issue up. Good research, Hugh.

Mick 19-07-2021 19:23

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36086900)
It will be interesting to see if the mainstream media pick this issue up. Good research, Hugh.

:rofl:

The gift that keeps on giving. :dozey:

papa smurf 19-07-2021 19:24

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086898)
Well, he needs to update his political party's Company House listing, then...

Contact him on gbviews@gbnews

Mr K 19-07-2021 19:42

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086902)
Contact him on gbviews@gbnews

You could ask for a greeting on Cameo, for which he charges £75. I'd give a 'greeting' for free ;)

Sephiroth 19-07-2021 19:44

Re: GB News
 
What a difference Farage is making. First class stuff as I watch it.

1andrew1 19-07-2021 20:04

Re: GB News
 
I could see the Farage show being one of the channel's more popular shows. The What the Farage? and Pints with Politicians show some thought has been given to the format. He's a skilled presenter who has built upon his Question Time and LBC gigs.

Paul 19-07-2021 23:46

Re: GB News
 
The definition of "Politician" seems to be pretty loose and varied, depending on where you look.

I rather liked these :D

Quote:

a person who seeks to gain power or advancement within an organization in ways that are generally disapproved.
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a person who acts in a manipulative and devious way, typically to gain advancement within an organization.

OLD BOY 22-07-2021 14:00

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At last, they’ve relented and GB News is going to start airing news bulletins. I really don’t understand why it wasn’t obvious to them from the start that a news channel should have regular news bulletins on it!

https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...ns_456406.html

1andrew1 22-07-2021 14:27

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087239)
At last, they’ve relented and GB News is going to start airing news bulletins. I really don’t understand why it wasn’t obvious to them from the start that a news channel should have regular news bulletins on it!

https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...ns_456406.html

Agreed - a sensible move.

papa smurf 25-07-2021 11:23

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Former First Minister Arlene Foster joins GB News

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-40687723.html

The former First Minister of Northern Ireland, Arlene Foster, is to join the news channel GB News.

Mrs Foster was announced as a new contributor on the Political Correction show fronted by former UKIP leader Nigel Farage.

Mrs Foster said it would be an “opportunity” to bring Northern Ireland into the mainstream of UK politics

1andrew1 25-07-2021 12:31

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36087383)
Former First Minister Arlene Foster joins GB News

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-40687723.html

The former First Minister of Northern Ireland, Arlene Foster, is to join the news channel GB News.

Mrs Foster was announced as a new contributor on the Political Correction show fronted by former UKIP leader Nigel Farage.

Mrs Foster said it would be an “opportunity” to bring Northern Ireland into the mainstream of UK politics

Will they rename it GB & NI News to bring Northern Ireland into the mainstream of the channel's title?

OLD BOY 25-07-2021 13:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36087389)
Will they rename it GB & NI News to bring Northern Ireland into the mainstream of the channel's title?

Why? The BBC in Northern Ireland is still the British Broadcasting Corporation.

Chris 25-07-2021 14:58

Re: GB News
 
Irish unionists identify as British. It’s unlikely to be a major concern for them.

Mr K 25-07-2021 21:31

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36087383)
Former First Minister Arlene Foster joins GB News

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-40687723.html

The former First Minister of Northern Ireland, Arlene Foster, is to join the news channel GB News.

Mrs Foster was announced as a new contributor on the Political Correction show fronted by former UKIP leader Nigel Farage.

Mrs Foster said it would be an “opportunity” to bring Northern Ireland into the mainstream of UK politics

She isn't going to pull The Sun readers in....

Hugh 25-07-2021 21:45

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087396)
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Will they rename it GB & NI News to bring Northern Ireland into the mainstream of the channel's title?
Why? The BBC in Northern Ireland is still the British Broadcasting Corporation.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1627245859

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/07/2.png

Chris 25-07-2021 22:12

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The BBC nations have stronger branding and a more localised flavour than the English regional variants do (e.g there’s always a local continuity announcer, and they always say “BBC Scotland” or whatever, not just when there’s an opt-out coming). However we’re all still well aware that it’s “B” for “British”.

Sephiroth 25-07-2021 22:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36087427)
The BBC nations have stronger branding and a more localised flavour than the English regional variants do (e.g there’s always a local continuity announcer, and they always say “BBC Scotland” or whatever, not just when there’s an opt-out coming). However we’re all still well aware that it’s “B” for “British”.

... Except when it's "B" for "Brussels" or "Biased".

They're getting better, but it's still there in sly ways.

1andrew1 25-07-2021 23:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36087429)
... Except when it's "B" for "Brussels" or "Biased".

They're getting better, but it's still there in sly ways.

I thought it was "B" for Brexit for both broadcasters. ;)

Sephiroth 25-07-2021 23:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36087434)
I thought it was "B" for Brexit for both broadcasters. ;)

I meant the BBC.

Chris 25-07-2021 23:31

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Everyone is triggered by the BBC which is probably a sign they’re getting the balance about right. Anyway, the topic here is GB News … let’s get back to it eh ;)

Maggy 26-07-2021 08:47

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36087437)
Everyone is triggered by the BBC which is probably a sign they’re getting the balance about right. Anyway, the topic here is GB News … let’s get back to it eh ;)

:tu:

Mick 26-07-2021 09:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36087422)
She isn't going to pull The Sun readers in....

There you go again, with your stupid categorisations. It’s no wonder your Remainer lot deserved to lose the Referendum and the other democratic exercises that followed. :rolleyes:

Sephiroth 08-08-2021 09:42

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How odd. The outside broadcast sound seems to be in sync with video. But the studio presenters are out of lip-sync.

Mr K 08-08-2021 10:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36088945)
How odd. The outside broadcast sound seems to be in sync with video. But the studio presenters are out of lip-sync.

They speak with forked tongues ?

Maggy 08-08-2021 11:03

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36088946)
They speak with forked tongues ?


Is there any chance you might actually contribute something of value to this thread?

papa smurf 08-08-2021 11:05

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36088945)
How odd. The outside broadcast sound seems to be in sync with video. But the studio presenters are out of lip-sync.

Fine on my TV, maybe valves need polishing on your TV;)

TheDaddy 08-08-2021 11:41

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See Sainsburys have refused to advertise on the channel due to Farage comments on the RNLI, if anyone listened to Grimey they'd have dropped them earlier after crafty masturbate said they are adding to the problem of people crossing the channel by saving them! Imagine the best of us being criticised by the poor man's Katie Hopkins

Nearly watched the channel earlier, was interested in their reaction to bozo's comments about Maggy Thatcher giving the country a head start on reducing emissions by closing coal mines. I'm sure it was just bozo being funny and not him showing his true feelings of a callous disregard to the suffering his new found friends in the North endured as actions speak louder than words and he's leveling them up as we speak

OLD BOY 08-08-2021 14:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36088953)
See Sainsburys have refused to advertise on the channel due to Farage comments on the RNLI, if anyone listened to Grimey they'd have dropped them earlier after crafty masturbate said they are adding to the problem of people crossing the channel by saving them! Imagine the best of us being criticised by the poor man's Katie Hopkins

Nearly watched the channel earlier, was interested in their reaction to bozo's comments about Maggy Thatcher giving the country a head start on reducing emissions by closing coal mines. I'm sure it was just bozo being funny and not him showing his true feelings of a callous disregard to the suffering his new found friends in the North endured as actions speak louder than words and he's leveling them up as we speak

I think Boris was trying to be funny, but he should remember that most of his opponents have a humour deficit.

Of course he is aware that the closure of the coal mines by Margaret Thatcher had nothing to do with climate issues. The reason for closing them down was perfectly valid - it was no longer a profitable industry and the unions seemed hell-bent on making them as inefficient as possible for their own devious ends, which included the collapse of the government (whether Labour or Conservative).

However, those closures did have the unexpected benefit that Boris highlighted.

I think everyone understands the hardship that was experienced by the miners and their families at the time, and while that was extremely regrettable, there really was no practical alternative available at the time. The country was heading towards bankruptcy.

Chris 08-08-2021 14:33

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This could sail off topic very quickly … let’s not, please ;)

1701-e 08-08-2021 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36088969)
This could sail off topic very quickly … let’s not, please ;)

RNLI would save it regardless;)

TheDaddy 08-08-2021 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36088964)
I think Boris was trying to be funny, but he should remember that most of his opponents have a humour deficit.

Of course he is aware that the closure of the coal mines by Margaret Thatcher had nothing to do with climate issues. The reason for closing them down was perfectly valid - it was no longer a profitable industry and the unions seemed hell-bent on making them as inefficient as possible for their own devious ends, which included the collapse of the government (whether Labour or Conservative).

However, those closures did have the unexpected benefit that Boris highlighted.

I think everyone understands the hardship that was experienced by the miners and their families at the time, and while that was extremely regrettable, there really was no practical alternative available at the time. The country was heading towards bankruptcy.

Showing your usual lack of detailed knowledge of a subject once more. Out of respect for Chris and his polite request I'll say no more in this thread but hopefully we will get the chance to discuss this properly another time

---------- Post added at 15:44 ---------- Previous post was at 15:43 ----------

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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36088983)
RNLI would save it regardless;)

Not if crafty Grimey got his way

Mick 09-08-2021 07:48

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36088953)
See Sainsburys have refused to advertise on the channel due to Farage comments on the RNLI, if anyone listened to Grimey they'd have dropped them earlier after crafty masturbate said they are adding to the problem of people crossing the channel by saving them! Imagine the best of us being criticised by the poor man's Katie Hopkins

Nearly watched the channel earlier, was interested in their reaction to bozo's comments about Maggy Thatcher giving the country a head start on reducing emissions by closing coal mines. I'm sure it was just bozo being funny and not him showing his true feelings of a callous disregard to the suffering his new found friends in the North endured as actions speak louder than words and he's leveling them up as we speak

Sainsbury’s have said no such statements of any kind. All they said was, an scheduled advertisement session has come to an end,

LedbyDonkey’s is a pathetic, Marxist lefty organisation, that acts like the true fascists, that they are, trying to shut down something they don’t agree with. They’re going to fail, just like they failed trying to stop the Brexit Party winning the most seats in European elections, and their failure to stop the Conservatives winning a landslide in the the 2019 General Election.

TheDaddy 09-08-2021 12:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36089044)
Sainsbury’s have said no such statements of any kind. All they said was, an scheduled advertisement session has come to an end,

LedbyDonkey’s is a pathetic, Marxist lefty organisation, that acts like the true fascists, that they are, trying to shut down something they don’t agree with. They’re going to fail, just like they failed trying to stop the Brexit Party winning the most seats in European elections, and their failure to stop the Conservatives winning a landslide in the the 2019 General Election.

Bloody daily express peddling lies about people complaining in droves about poor Nigel, not sure I like the sound of this led by donkeys mob either

Pierre 09-08-2021 12:16

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36088984)
Not if crafty Grimey got his way

Given that was an outright untruth posted on twitter, which DG i think is challenging legally, I would refrain from libellous monikers

Mick 09-08-2021 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36089077)
Given that was an outright untruth posted on twitter, which DG i think is challenging legally, I would refrain from libellous monikers

I also do not want to see such disgusting references posted on this forum, if I see them again, I shall remove them.

Nobody posts anything on here in such inappropriate and derogatory terms against any individual.

Damien 09-08-2021 19:51

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Lead by Donkeys aren't Marxists and I also fail to see how they're fascists. They're just attention seekers.

pip08456 09-08-2021 20:11

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I wonder which donkey is leading them?

Damien 09-08-2021 20:31

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Probably someone with a very high sense of self-importance.

I am not a fan of these kinds of media boycotts. People are entitled to choose where they shop but I think it's excessive to have these many degrees of separation between what you're objecting to and who you're boycotting.

1andrew1 09-08-2021 20:45

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36089160)
Lead by Donkeys aren't Marxists and I also fail to see how they're fascists. They're just attention seekers.

Yes, I've seen no evidence to demonstrate they're fascists or Marxists and alleging it's the case does not make it so. They're probably just people successful at crowd-funding and evidently looking for somewhere to spend it.

Sainsbury's wouldn't have known that GB News would move to a shock jock format of has-beens without leading light Andrew Neil but GB News viewers still need to eat.

Mick 09-08-2021 21:15

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36089160)
Lead by Donkeys aren't Marxists and I also fail to see how they're fascists. They're just attention seekers.

They are aligned with StopFundingHate, said to be hard left Corbynist & Marxists. They’re fascists by trying to shut down and censor (cancel), by virtue of financial means by strangulating ad revenue.

Damien 09-08-2021 21:35

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That's not fascism though. It's just boycotting, iliberal perhaps, but not fascist. You're not obliged to financially support organisations that you view as running counter to your politics. I think it's pretty stupid to conduct politics by going to Tesco instead of Sainsburys or boycotting Ben and Jerry's because of Palestine but here we are.

The members of it might be Marxist, I don't know, but their campaign isn't Marxist. For a start they were very pro-EU where Marxists view the institution of the European Union as a capitalist project. There is a reason there were suspicions around how Corbyn voted, if he wasn't Labour Leader he almost certainly would have voted to leave.

1andrew1 09-08-2021 21:39

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36089196)
That's not fascism though. It's just boycotting, iliberal perhaps, but not fascist. You're not obliged to financially support organisations that you view as running counter to your politics. I think it's pretty stupid to conduct politics by going to Tesco instead of Sainsburys or boycotting Ben and Jerry's because of Palestine but here we are.

The members of it might be Marxist, I don't know, but their campaign isn't Marxist. For a start they were very pro-EU where Marxists view the institution of the European Union as a capitalist project. There is a reason there were suspicions around how Corbyn voted, if he wasn't Labour Leader he almost certainly would have voted to leave.

Agreed, Jeremy Corbyn made Nigel Farage look like a Remainer!

pip08456 09-08-2021 23:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36089197)
Agreed, Jeremy Corbyn made Nigel Farage look like a Remainer!

If you have evidence of this then please post it.

1andrew1 09-08-2021 23:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36089215)
If you have evidence of this then please post it.

Obviously I'm not being literal ;) but to reference my support of Damien's comment on Corbyn:

Jeremy Corbyn said he voted 'No' to Britain's EU membership in the 1975 vote
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-b...on-redirect=uk

In 1996, he criticised “a European bureaucracy totally unaccountable to anybody,” and complained that “powers have gone from national parliaments”.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/82...r-Labour-Party

In March 2017 he used a three-line whip to instruct Labour MPs to vote to trigger Article 50, the strongest tool available to him
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38833883

pip08456 10-08-2021 00:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36089217)
Obviously I'm not being literal ;) but to reference my support of Damien's comment on Corbyn:

Jeremy Corbyn said he voted 'No' to Britain's EU membership in the 1975 vote
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-b...on-redirect=uk

In 1996, he criticised “a European bureaucracy totally unaccountable to anybody,” and complained that “powers have gone from national parliaments”.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/82...r-Labour-Party

In March 2017 he used a three-line whip to instruct Labour MPs to vote to trigger Article 50, the strongest tool available to him


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38833883

Hmmm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politi...endum-36430606

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-uk-stay-in-eu

https://www.reuters.com/investigates...ain-eu-corbyn/



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Corbyn’s journey – from Eurosceptic to last line of defence against leaving the EU without a withdrawal agreement, from Socialist rebel to leader of an opposition united against Johnson – is among the most improbable in modern British history.

Damien 25-08-2021 21:09

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GB News seem to be pushing some of the weirder COVID 'treatments': https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/202...id-remedy.html

I think they might be trying to invite a confrontation with Ofcom to drive up publicity for their coming 'relaunch'?

Pierre 25-08-2021 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36090930)
GB News seem to be pushing some of the weirder COVID 'treatments': https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/202...id-remedy.html

I think they might be trying to invite a confrontation with Ofcom to drive up publicity for their coming 'relaunch'?

That’s an objective source you’ve procured there. “Gammon Broadcasting” FFS.

I didn’t see the interview or report, however there is nothing wrong in asking about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, if they are being trialled, are proper studies being done etc.

They can’t be used yet but are they being properly assessed?

Certainly for those that cannot be vaccinated we must surely be pursuing all other treatments.

Damien 25-08-2021 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36090936)
That’s an objective source you’ve procured there. “Gammon Broadcasting” FFS.

I didn’t see the interview or report, however there is nothing wrong in asking about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, if they are being trialled, are proper studies being done etc.

They can’t be used yet but are they being properly assessed?

Certainly for those that cannot be vaccinated we must surely be pursuing all other treatments.

Yeah, it's not a great source but the substance of it is the actual discussion. You can ignore the commentary alongside it.

I don't think news companies should be speculating and playing both sides of unproven medical treatments then gloating for getting a reaction for doing so. If there is evidence it can be studied but that's not what's happening, instead, people on the internet have latched onto medical treatments without such studies and now this guy is promoting it on GB News and challenging a Doctor by presenting an opinion article as evidence.

With hydroxychloroquine they looked into this over a year ago. The studies showed it didn't work. It's become some sort of weird meme on the internet to keep pushing it and in some places of the American media.

As I said I wonder if they're trying to provoke a rebuke from the regulator which they can use to hype up a 'war with the establishment'. They must know they can't push this stuff on TV. I am sure there is some regulation from Ofcom on the reporting of medical treatments.

Hugh 25-08-2021 22:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36090936)
That’s an objective source you’ve procured there. “Gammon Broadcasting” FFS.

I didn’t see the interview or report, however there is nothing wrong in asking about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, if they are being trialled, are proper studies being done etc.

They can’t be used yet but are they being properly assessed?


Certainly for those that cannot be vaccinated we must surely be pursuing all other treatments.

Some info on research below.

https://www.cnet.com/news/is-ivermec...oversial-drug/

Quote:

A clinical trial of 476 patients found ivermectin didn't improve the recovery time in patients who had COVID-19. A review of 10 random clinical trials, with more than 1,000 participants, also didn't find improvements with ivermectin. One Egyptian study claimed to show positive results, but it's since been redacted over ethical concerns. Another study, of 1,500 patients, found that ivermectin had "no effect whatsoever."

Merck, the company that discovered ivermectin, released a statement in February saying there was "no scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies" and "no meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease." It also cited a lack of safety data from major studies.
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr...5017.pub2/full
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Authors' conclusions

Based on the current very low‐ to low‐certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID‐19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review updates. Overall, the reliable evidence available does not support the use of ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID‐19 outside of well‐designed randomized trials.

Mr K 03-09-2021 17:33

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Andrew Neil is expected to quit GB News amid a bitter rift with its senior management and board, dealing a blow to the channel as bosses battle to build an audience.

Plans for the chairman and flagship presenter of the fledgling news network to make a comeback on Monday have been cancelled, and insiders now expect him to resign without returning to its airwaves.

The veteran broadcaster and GB News bosses have failed to set aside their differences, sources said, after relations between Mr Neil and chief executive Angelos Frangopoulos suffered a total breakdown over the direction of the company.

Viewing numbers were initially comparable with those of rivals as the channel sought to present itself as a centre-right alternative to the BBC, but audience levels have since dropped.

Mr Frangopoulos is understood to be mulling a plan to remodel GB News along the lines of opinionated American television channels such as Fox - a proposal thought to have been strongly resisted by Mr Neil.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...eturn-gb-news/

1andrew1 03-09-2021 17:57

Re: GB News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36092010)

I think that's been on the cards ever since he flew to his EU retreat and Farage was hired.

jfman 03-09-2021 18:24

Re: GB News
 
Like the proverbial rat.

I’m sure he will be fine though, the Establishment will save him from the usual pitfalls of capitalist failure and he will likely get a gig back at the BBC.

pip08456 13-09-2021 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36092010)

Quote:

GB News has just been informed of the inevitable: Andrew Neil has resigned as chairman and will step down as a presenter.
https://order-order.com/2021/09/13/b...news-chairman/

Damien 13-09-2021 17:48

Re: GB News
 
Expected but still a sign GB News is going to go in a different direction that he doesn’t agree with. They’ve had a lot of the other experienced journalists resign too.

Mr K 13-09-2021 18:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36092893)
Expected but still a sign GB News is going to go in a different direction that he doesn’t agree with. They’ve had a lot of the other experienced journalists resign too.

I don't think they really want journalists/news, just ranting opinions for a very small audience....

papa smurf 13-09-2021 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36092896)
I don't think they really want journalists/news, just ranting opinions for a very small audience....

It must really worry you that people have opinions different to yours.

Mr K 13-09-2021 18:38

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36092898)
It must really worry you that people have opinions different to yours.

Not really but if you're just giving narrow opinions to others that have the same opinions, it doesnt make for great TV/debate. Confirmation bias I believe its called.

A news channel it certainly isn't.

1andrew1 13-09-2021 18:40

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36092896)
I don't think they really want journalists/news, just ranting opinions for a very small audience....

It's basically driven by economics - they can't afford the costs of running a news station like Sky News but a views station akin to LBC is more affordable. But whether the new format pays its way remains to be seen.

Hugh 13-09-2021 19:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36092898)
It must really worry you that people have opinions different to yours.

Could be worse - at least he doesn’t have a Forum Signature decrying those with different views… ;)

Mick 13-09-2021 22:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36092901)
Not really but if you're just giving narrow opinions to others that have the same opinions, it doesnt make for great TV/debate. Confirmation bias I believe its called.

A news channel it certainly isn't.

You mean bias like exists on Channel 4?

The wokeness from the BBC?

Sky News is not so great these days either.

This goes to show you have not watched the channel. As for narrow mindedness, take a look in the mirror.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36092893)
Expected but still a sign GB News is going to go in a different direction that he doesn’t agree with. They’ve had a lot of the other experienced journalists resign too.

Who are these “lots” of experienced journalists?

Damien 13-09-2021 22:50

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36092929)

Who are these “lots” of experienced journalists?

Last week a few went: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...ming-7rgbpggn5

Quote:

The Times understands that the television station’s increasingly populist agenda is polarising the newsroom and that some insiders have seen enough.

Three senior producers quit within days of each other last week. They included Jamie McConkey, who had been producing Neil’s programme since launch, Sarah Weaver, a senior producer for presenters including Michelle Dewberry, and Joceline Sharman, a senior daytime producer.
In July their Director of Programming went: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-knee-row.html

All summer there have been occasionally reports of falling outs and resignations.

TheDaddy 14-09-2021 10:28

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36092892)

I'm going to start a vicious rumour that he's jumped ship to launch EU news...

Maggy 14-09-2021 10:54

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The only news source I read is Private Eye. At least I get a laugh out of it.

Mr K 14-09-2021 20:29

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36092970)
The only news source I read is Private Eye. At least I get a laugh out of it.

You can get a laugh out of GB News, some of the output is hilarious. If they could get Alan Partridge to do Sport, the line up would be complete. :)

papa smurf 14-09-2021 20:33

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36093052)
You can get a laugh out of GB News, some of the output is hilarious. If they could get Alan Partridge to do Sport, the line up would be complete. :)

how many hours per day do you watch it?

Mr K 14-09-2021 20:41

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36093053)
how many hours per day do you watch it?

As much as my chuckle muscles will take! I've also got to fit in readers comments in the Torygraph, the views of the swivel eyed loon mob are always hugely entertaining :D

Carth 14-09-2021 21:23

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I've also taken to spending some of my spare time (and I have lots of it) reading comments on stories on many of the news sites.
They often make fantastic reading, and would provide excellent study material for groups interested in the link between IQ and mass hysteria :D

Sometimes when reading them, I childishly associate names from here to comments on there . . ;)

1andrew1 14-09-2021 23:58

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Just watching it now and one of the guests nominated Debbie Harry as her Greatest Briton. It went unchallenged. :D

Hugh 15-09-2021 09:09

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36093065)
Just watching it now and one of the guests nominated Debbie Harry as her Greatest Briton. It went unchallenged. :D

Did she mean to say Guto Harri? :D

1andrew1 15-09-2021 09:30

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36093074)
Did she mean to say Guto Harri? :D

That name is cancelled on GB News. ;)

After the Debbie Harry slip-up went uncorrected, it was onto the Farage Show. A competent broadcaster, he was let down by lip synch issues.

Mick 15-09-2021 13:40

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36093075)
That name is cancelled on GB News. ;)

After the Debbie Harry slip-up went uncorrected, it was onto the Farage Show. A competent broadcaster, he was let down by lip synch issues.

It’s the pre-recorded show from 7pm slot. That said-I’m getting worried, you actually watching Farage? :erm:

Sephiroth 15-09-2021 14:03

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Farage is great.

OLD BOY 15-09-2021 16:59

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36093087)
It’s the pre-recorded show from 7pm slot. That said-I’m getting worried, you actually watching Farage? :erm:

He’s started to age. His transformation towards the right of politics is beginning. Alarmingly, though, it looks like he might swing too far!

Mick 15-09-2021 17:17

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Tom Harwood just called Mr Brexit Top hat Man, infamous for constantly yelling “Stop Brexit”, Steve Bray a professional pillock live on air.

I concur.

1andrew1 15-09-2021 17:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36093087)
It’s the pre-recorded show from 7pm slot. That said-I’m getting worried, you actually watching Farage? :erm:

I'm worried they couldn't sort the lip synch as it was pre-recorded.

Farage is always good value, he's a great salesman and broadcaster. Albeit there's a bit of an Alan Partridge in his intonation and I don't subscribe to his populist solutions.

Damien 16-09-2021 13:35

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GB News can't catch a break. News UK are going to do a news channel: https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/stat...77599211200518

papa smurf 16-09-2021 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36093220)
GB News can't catch a break. News UK are going to do a news channel: https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/stat...77599211200518

not for me thanks

1andrew1 16-09-2021 14:35

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Piers Morgan will be joining the News UK channel
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/stat...93624564699136

papa smurf 16-09-2021 14:40

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36093228)
Piers Morgan will be joining the News UK channel
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/stat...93624564699136

Can't stand him, he's an over opinionated prat who chucks his dummy out when he can't get his own way.

Mick 16-09-2021 14:47

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I do listen to talkRadio now and again and talkTV having its own news channel is a good thing. Wonder how led by donkeys will feel now Rupert Murdoch finally gets his own channel, launching in UK. For a long time, news in the UK has stagnated thanks to woke attitudes of the BBC and some bias on Sky News. More Competition is a good thing.

Damien 16-09-2021 15:36

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Talk TV will do better IMO. They'll have a more professional outfit behind the production given the backing of News UK and their experience. They'll also throw their considerable weight behind it with promotions across their existing newspapers and radio.

I won't like it. I don't like opinion led news broadcasting, it's just an outlet for provoking increasing rage and division as far as I am concerned. Still, I think it'll do well.

Mr K 16-09-2021 18:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36093229)
Can't stand him, he's an over opinionated prat who chucks his dummy out when he can't get his own way.

Yes, will give you that.

OLD BOY 16-09-2021 19:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36093229)
Can't stand him, he's an over opinionated prat who chucks his dummy out when he can't get his own way.

That’s what makes him entertaining!

Damien 16-09-2021 21:28

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Do we think GB News is done for now? Struggling as it is but if they have another rival going after the same audience then it'll be some achievement to pull it off. Only advantage they have for now is that talkTV won't be on air until the new year.

Sephiroth 16-09-2021 21:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36093321)
Do we think GB News is done for now? Struggling as it is but if they have another rival going after the same audience then it'll be some achievement to pull it off. Only advantage they have for now is that talkTV won't be on air until the new year.

Yeah - done for imo because they are not in a good place.

It might even happen that Murdoch offers Farage a more lucrative slot.


Damien 16-09-2021 22:35

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I think they might follow the LBC path and not be explicitly 'right-wing' but instead simply provocative and therefore also have left-wing hosts so long as they push the right buttons to get reactions from guests and the audience. Think of James O'Brien on LBC. I am sure they could find others. I.E They make 'Let's rejoin the EU' a discussion point, angry people phone in, call them idiots, get supportive calls, more calls to argue with those callers and away you go. Easy views.

1andrew1 16-09-2021 23:09

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I think with their News UK heritage, the new channel will also focus on sport and celebrities. Add in Dow Jones financial content and you have a far broader mix than GB News's focus on commentators.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36093325)
Yeah - done for imo because they are not in a good place.

It might even happen that Murdoch offers Farage a more lucrative slot.


Agreed on both counts.

jfman 17-09-2021 10:39

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The rat on question time sitting on the fence on everything presumably to keep his employment opportunities open.

It’s for others to make their own judgements. What weasel worded nonsense. In the words of the great Roy Walker “say what you see”.

Chris 17-09-2021 10:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36093384)
The rat on question time sitting on the fence on everything presumably to keep his employment opportunities open.

It’s for others to make their own judgements. What weasel worded nonsense. In the words of the great Roy Walker “say what you see”.

Why should he? He’s a private citizen working in an industry where you frequently have to produce copy from a perspective that reflects the editorial line even if it doesn’t perfectly align with your own. He doesn’t owe you or anyone else an explanation and for you to describe him in these terms for refusing to indulge you is just a little unhinged. You seem to have him confused with a politician you elected to serve your interests, though frankly even in that case your mode of expression would be extreme.

Maggy 17-09-2021 11:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36093386)
Why should he? He’s a private citizen working in an industry where you frequently have to produce copy from a perspective that reflects the editorial line even if it doesn’t perfectly align with your own. He doesn’t owe you or anyone else an explanation and for you to describe him in these terms for refusing to indulge you is just a little unhinged. You seem to have him confused with a politician you elected to serve your interests, though frankly even in that case your mode of expression would be extreme.

:clap:

jfman 17-09-2021 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36093386)
Why should he? He’s a private citizen working in an industry where you frequently have to produce copy from a perspective that reflects the editorial line even if it doesn’t perfectly align with your own. He doesn’t owe you or anyone else an explanation and for you to describe him in these terms for refusing to indulge you is just a little unhinged. You seem to have him confused with a politician you elected to serve your interests, though frankly even in that case your mode of expression would be extreme.

It only shows him up as spineless.

He’s offered his own opinions on many political issues from the south of France, regardless of apparent journalistic impartiality you portray.

I don’t consider it particularly unhinged to call him out for what he is. A rat deserting a sinking ship.

He does indeed have the right to say nothing - it only seems odd to go onto Question Time to not answer the most obvious pertinent questions.

BenMcr 17-09-2021 11:46

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36093388)
It only shows him up as spineless.

He’s offered his own opinions on many political issues from the south of France, regardless of apparent journalistic impartiality you portray.

I don’t consider it particularly unhinged to call him out for what he is. A rat deserting a sinking ship.

He does indeed have the right to say nothing - it only seems odd to go onto Question Time to not answer the most obvious pertinent questions.

Wasn't one of the aims of GB News was to stand up to 'cancel culture'?

Surely you're not now suggesting the BBC cancel him from appearing to express his opinions?

jfman 17-09-2021 11:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36093389)
Wasn't one of the aims of GB News was to stand up to 'cancel culture'?

Surely you're not now suggesting the BBC cancel him from appearing to express his opinions?

I’m at a loss is he this benign impartial journalist entitled to private opinions, or is he a public figure of standing in the media who wants to throw his opinions out there and indeed seek to influence public discourse by doing so?

I’m a rational capitalist, I don’t see why the public sector should step in and supplement his income following a failed venture.


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