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rtho782 11-09-2021 17:32

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
If the site says it's available, then their API says it's available. I know the author of the site ordered it within hours of the API saying it was there

Edit: that is to say, the data shown on the site is not stored/created /maintained by me, there isn't even a database attached to it, it just queries one.network for roadworks (and filters to telecoms only which their own site does not) and public APIs and checkers for ISP results. If it says 1000mbps is available, then VM are saying on their API that 1000mbps is available. It's possible they don't want to sell it to you for other reasons? EG. Capacity, or shortage of sh4s, or something, or that the operator you spoke to was... Not very good.

bbxxl 11-09-2021 17:59

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Thank you, if the API says it is available then I’m guessing it won’t be long before I can get it and for 100 shiny new pennies a month, I probably will.

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Just rechecked and I had missed the ‘not live’.
D’Oh!

alanbjames 11-09-2021 21:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36092693)
It's not really very error tolerant yet. If you didn't put a space in, try with a space.

The same thing happens whether or not i use a space.

Tricky Trevor 12-09-2021 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken Hope (Post 36092541)
My brothers post code does now list 1 gig as available now so must have just taken a while to update the post codes on the checker.

Ive just been on chat and the chap told me that Gig1 is not available in Nottingham.

General Maximus 12-09-2021 12:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k (Post 36091122)
Is it likely taking time to show up on the website or could that mean it is not available yet on my local area?

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36091187)
If anything it is the other way round. Historically they have been very quick to update the website with new services and when you ring up to upgrade the call centres don't know anything about it and say it isn't available on their system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36092383)
It appears for me now. Just for the record, I'm on Nottingham (Basford)..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 36092787)
Ive just been on chat and the chap told me that Gig1 is not available in Nottingham.

:D

Skie 12-09-2021 17:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 36092730)
The same thing happens whether or not i use a space.

Make sure you put your house number in the box too (or just 1). It starts at a high number and if it's invalid you'll get spinny wheels.

alanbjames 12-09-2021 23:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 36092806)
Make sure you put your house number in the box too (or just 1). It starts at a high number and if it's invalid you'll get spinny wheels.

Same thing happens still.

General Maximus 13-09-2021 00:54

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me too

tweetiepooh 13-09-2021 09:45

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Ours was due Friday. Then text it would take 2-3 more business days. Then text it was on it's way Saturday. Arrived, switched over, took a while to boot up, connected, switched to modem mode and all working. Took old box to Yodel pickup site (news agent) on way into church on Sunday.


The new box may look OK but don't like the huge bright light that casts shadows in darkened room. At least they didn't make it magenta for modem mode.


Also shame they dropped the little card insert for the VM wifi password. Still I kept my internal network stuff running so that all just picked up fine.

ash45 13-09-2021 14:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36092845)
Ours was due Friday. Then text it would take 2-3 more business days. Then text it was on it's way Saturday. Arrived, switched over, took a while to boot up, connected, switched to modem mode and all working. Took old box to Yodel pickup site (news agent) on way into church on Sunday.


The new box may look OK but don't like the huge bright light that casts shadows in darkened room. At least they didn't make it magenta for modem mode.


Also shame they dropped the little card insert for the VM wifi password. Still I kept my internal network stuff running so that all just picked up fine.

you can turn the light off login to the admin page 192.168.0.1 go to advanced settings select light ring then manual 0%

ozsat 13-09-2021 16:36

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All setup here. the light was set low to start with here and easy to change.

Not sure how long it took to activate as I had so work to do for 15-20 minutes and it was all done when I checked.

Changed all the settings and names etc to be same as my oldSH3 - so no devices here would need reconnecting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36092845)
Ours was due Friday. Then text it would take 2-3 more business days. Then text it was on it's way Saturday. Arrived, switched over, took a while to boot up, connected, switched to modem mode and all working. Took old box to Yodel pickup site (news agent) on way into church on Sunday.


The new box may look OK but don't like the huge bright light that casts shadows in darkened room. At least they didn't make it magenta for modem mode.


Also shame they dropped the little card insert for the VM wifi password. Still I kept my internal network stuff running so that all just picked up fine.


pythagoras 13-09-2021 21:57

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1 Attachment(s)
Well Im getting the Hardware limit imposed speeds on my connection.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1631566563

Paul 14-09-2021 04:00

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36092845)
The new box may look OK but don't like the huge bright light that casts shadows in darkened room. At least they didn't make it magenta for modem mode.

Whats wrong with Magenta ?

Grimpy 14-09-2021 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36092845)


The new box may look OK but don't like the huge bright light that casts shadows in darkened room. At least they didn't make it magenta for modem mode.


Dim it to it's lowest setting.

Had mine a few days now:

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/09/6.png

ozsat 15-09-2021 15:44

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https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/09/7.png

rtho782 16-09-2021 15:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 36092831)
Same thing happens still.

Probably struggling to match your address. Do you live in an apartment, or on a road with house names? (e.g. not numbers)?

There will be a new version soon that if it can't match the address exactly just takes the first one for the postcode.

bbxxl 16-09-2021 15:53

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I’ve got an email “ We’re carrying out essential works to modernise and future-proof our network in your area on Tue 21 Sep. This should improve your connection so you can carry on enjoying the things you love most.”

I wonder if that is the 1Gig upgrade.

Jimmy-J 16-09-2021 22:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 36093249)
I’ve got an email “ We’re carrying out essential works to modernise and future-proof our network in your area on Tue 21 Sep. This should improve your connection so you can carry on enjoying the things you love most.”

I wonder if that is the 1Gig upgrade.

Most probably.

General Maximus 17-09-2021 19:30

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Don't get your hopes up. I have had two of those over the last 3 weeks and nothing has happened.

bbxxl 17-09-2021 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36093450)
Don't get your hopes up. I have had two of those over the last 3 weeks and nothing has happened.

My hopes were high. You have now dashed them.

alanbjames 18-09-2021 02:04

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How is Ozsat managing to get that kind of speed?

ozsat 18-09-2021 06:44

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
I use my own router for all my network stuff - but due to problems with the 360 on third-party routers I still have the SH4 in router mode.

I have two 1GB network connections in the PC - and by using both you can get to use more than the <1GB limit set on each SH4 Ethernet port.

I only did it to see I could do it and normally get around 940Mb/s download.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 36093525)
How is Ozsat managing to get that kind of speed?


alanbjames 18-09-2021 07:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36093533)
I use my own router for all my network stuff - but due to problems with the 360 on third-party routers I still have the SH4 in router mode.

I have two 1GB network connections in the PC - and by using both you can get to use more than the <1GB limit set on each SH4 Ethernet port.

I only did it to see I could do it and normally get around 940Mb/s download.

How do u mean u have are using the 2 1GB connections?

I have a 1GB and a 2.5GB Connection, how can i use those both to bump my speed?

ozsat 18-09-2021 08:03

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Use two Ethernet cables at once.

I tried it and it worked but I'm back on one as I actually use the two cards for different ISPs - manually switching when required.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 36093534)
How do u mean u have are using the 2 1GB connections?

I have a 1GB and a 2.5GB Connection, how can i use those both to bump my speed?


rtho782 19-09-2021 22:06

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 36093534)
How do u mean u have are using the 2 1GB connections?

I have a 1GB and a 2.5GB Connection, how can i use those both to bump my speed?

SH4 supports RR load balancing in modem mode, and possibly router mode as well.

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https://bidb.msh100.uk/

Newer version of the dashboard, should tolerate different addresses better, and show more providers, also now has a search history (client side, in cookie)

ash45 20-09-2021 14:38

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Does anyone know roughly how long it takes for the system to update once the upgrades been done. my SH4 went offline for about 10 mins and when it came back on now connecting to 32 D3 and 1 D3.1 channel but online chat still saying max speed is M600

Sephiroth 20-09-2021 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ash45 (Post 36093805)
Does anyone know roughly how long it takes for the system to update once the upgrades been done. my SH4 went offline for about 10 mins and when it came back on now connecting to 32 D3 and 1 D3.1 channel but online chat still saying max speed is M600

On the Router Status page, hit the Configuration tab and look for Max Traffic Rate. If that says 1200000450, then you're on 1 Gig.

General Maximus 20-09-2021 15:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ash45 (Post 36093805)
Does anyone know roughly how long it takes for the system to update once the upgrades been done. my SH4 went offline for about 10 mins and when it came back on now connecting to 32 D3 and 1 D3.1 channel but online chat still saying max speed is M600

It may be a coincidence but I think it is weekly on Monday's going by when previous users have noticed the change. I have been waiting three weeks now so I wouldn't hold your breath.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36093810)
On the Router Status page, hit the Configuration tab and look for Max Traffic Rate. If that says 1200000450, then you're on 1 Gig.

I do believe he is referring to physical upgrade work being completed and not a tier upgrade on his account

ash45 21-09-2021 03:59

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yea sorry should of been more clear my SH rebooted and started to connect to the extra channels, so i got on the web chat to try upgrade from M500 but was told Gig1 still wasn't available in the area, so meant the time between it being upgraded and actually been able to order

Paul 21-09-2021 04:03

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I think it was about 7 - 10 days after in my case.

ash45 21-09-2021 04:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36093868)
I think it was about 7 - 10 days after in my case.

thanks ill keep my eyes peels over next week

bbxxl 23-09-2021 08:35

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After the work they did on Tuesday 1 Gig is still not showing as available here :(

rtho782 29-09-2021 06:47

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They seem to do "releases" of areas on Mondays, so there are 13 mondays left in 2021 if they are to meet their recently restated target....

rtho782 07-10-2021 09:29

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A load more releases today, including Colchester. Anyone know if Colchester is relevant to Ipswich at all? It's only down the road.

Carth 07-10-2021 09:49

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Had an email yesterday from VM:

"We’re carrying out essential works to modernise and future-proof our network in your area on Mon 11 Oct. This should improve your connection so you can carry on enjoying the things you love most. "

Now while I'd consider 'enjoying the things you love most' to be unlimited Brandy served by naked 20 year old supermodels while I watch re-runs of Kelly's Heroes, I guess it's more likely to be something to do with this roll out :shrug:

bbxxl 07-10-2021 11:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36092645)
That's not the issue, I've put it up here: https://cableforum.rtho.me/

It was just never really designed for public use and might not scale well.

It was working but recently it just gives a bad gateway error. Is it gone for good? I was hoping it was just temporary.

rtho782 07-10-2021 14:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 36096305)
It was working but recently it just gives a bad gateway error. Is it gone for good? I was hoping it was just temporary.

Sorry, I didn't have it on autostart, back now.

However, https://bidb.msh100.uk/ is a newer, better implementation.

bbxxl 07-10-2021 15:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36096355)
Sorry, I didn't have it on autostart, back now.

However, https://bidb.msh100.uk/ is a newer, better implementation.

Thank you.

sollp 07-10-2021 18:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36096262)
A load more releases today, including Colchester. Anyone know if Colchester is relevant to Ipswich at all? It's only down the road.

Colchester is the main Headend, Ipswich is fed in part from Colchester

rtho782 07-10-2021 18:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sollp (Post 36096400)
Colchester is the main Headend, Ipswich is fed in part from Colchester

Thanks, that's hopeful, maybe soon to come here as it did in WSM a little after Bristol.

You say in part, where else is Ipswich fed from?

General Maximus 07-10-2021 18:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36096266)
I guess it's more likely to be something to do with this roll out :shrug:

that is what I hoped but I have been waiting over a month now and nothing has changed

spiderplant 07-10-2021 18:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36096404)
You say in part, where else is Ipswich fed from?

Ipswich!

rtho782 07-10-2021 19:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36096412)
Ipswich!

:confus:

spiderplant 07-10-2021 20:03

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Ipswich has its own hubsite. As sollp says, the main headend is Colchester.

rtho782 07-10-2021 20:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36096434)
Ipswich has its own hubsite. As sollp says, the main headend is Colchester.

aah ok, well Colchester being upgraded bodes well then, I guess we couldn't possibly be before Colchester.

Where is the hubsite in Ipswich? Is it that big building on Russel Road?

spiderplant 07-10-2021 22:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36096447)
Where is the hubsite in Ipswich? Is it that big building on Russel Road?

I don't know. These things are best not publicised anyway.

rtho782 08-10-2021 09:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36096466)
I don't know. These things are best not publicised anyway.

Fair enough, I only asked on the off chance.

Although, the location of all the BT telephone exchanges is public, not sure why it is better to shroud in mystery?

spiderplant 08-10-2021 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36096503)
not sure why it is better to shroud in mystery?

You wouldn't be very happy if your broadband went down because someone decided to relieve the hubsite of all its equipment.

jfman 08-10-2021 13:55

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There’s also been a number of attacks on telco infrastructure linked to 5G conspiracies, so they wouldn’t want high profile locations in the public domain.

tweetiepooh 08-10-2021 15:01

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Had one site where the little darlings broke in, nicked all the equipment. This was all replaced with newer stuff, might as well upgrade, tidy, fix things. They then repeated their "shopping trip" this time grabbing bargains on brand new equipment.

Sephiroth 08-10-2021 15:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36096466)
I don't know. These things are best not publicised anyway.

In the days when everyone posted their TRACERT data, we could (and I did) piece it all together.

ash45 08-10-2021 15:29

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
mine finally became orderable yesterday upgrade literally just gone through just need to get my OPNsense box set backup no and get Balance-RR on the go lol

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/10/2.png

Paul 08-10-2021 22:56

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36096537)
You wouldn't be very happy if your broadband went down because someone decided to relieve the hubsite of all its equipment.

The same could be said of BT exchanges, the locations of which are all public, but that doesnt really happen.

General Maximus 08-10-2021 23:11

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I am sure the VM ones used to be as well. I can remember googling the Lincoln one a few years ago and finding the address and directions on google maps. It would have made a good CIA black site because driving past it you would think it is a just another random pile of bricks.

rtho782 09-10-2021 09:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36096654)
The same could be said of BT exchanges, the locations of which are all public, but that doesnt really happen.

And, lets say someone did steal the hub site equipment.....

Who are they going to sell DOCSIS3.1 head end equipment to? ....Virgin?

spiderplant 09-10-2021 09:13

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36096654)
The same could be said of BT exchanges, the locations of which are all public, but that doesnt really happen.

https://www.theregister.com/2008/09/...yfair_robbery/
https://www.theregister.com/2008/12/12/bt_reward/
https://www.bognor.co.uk/news/cables...xchange-916653
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8856...lborough-raid/
https://www.huntspost.co.uk/lifestyl...-in-st-4932048

rtho782 09-10-2021 09:55

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All but one of your links are over 10 years old, so hardly seems a regular occurrence.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/10/3.png
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/10/4.png

Given that many VM sites are pretty obvious, and a load of offices that could well be hub sites? are listed on the website, how many copper thefts has the secrecy policy prevented?

It won't prevent targeted gang thefts, with the local knowledge to locate the site, it won't prevent opportunistic thefts from people that walk past and see the VM vans and hoarding.

Hugh 09-10-2021 10:24

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Can you please not post such large images - they distort the page when viewing on a tablet.


Update: Images edited to be smaller.

spiderplant 09-10-2021 10:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36096692)
how many copper thefts has the secrecy policy prevented?

Obviously that is unknowable. But conversely, what is the benefit of the locations being publicised? For BT, knowing the distance to the exchange is useful, but that's irrelevant for VM.

rtho782 09-10-2021 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36096705)
Obviously that is unknowable. But conversely, what is the benefit of the locations being publicised? For BT, knowing the distance to the exchange is useful, but that's irrelevant for VM.

All land owned by companies is public - https://use-land-property-data.servi...ts/ccod#access

So unless VM just lease the land or something, it will be obvious. I am curious now so going to find out heh.

General Maximus 10-10-2021 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36096702)
Can you please not post such large images - they distort the page when viewing on a tablet.

forget your tablet, it has put a scroll bar on my pc :p:

rtho782 10-10-2021 10:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36096866)
forget your tablet, it has put a scroll bar on my pc :p:

Pfft to both of you, fine for me on both my 4k monitor with 150% scaling and my 1440p monitor with 100% scaling. Websites that are a tiny column in the middle of the screen are more annoying.

What's the widest image allowed? A max-width css property could be set to limit images to that size if desired.

General Maximus 10-10-2021 10:56

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When i upload images which i want people to look at and appreciate (e.g. the SFX magazine covers) i resize to 800 horizontal so it is large without being too large.

trickytree 11-10-2021 08:59

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Got an email Thursday saying Bingham (Notts) now has the 1Gig.

I'm in contract for another 12 months and to be honest I think all my hardware would struggle to really make the most of it anyway.
If they decide the UO bundle becomes the norm then fair enough but not going to forking out anymore just now.
Nice to know it's there ready to go if my situation changes though

heero_yuy 11-10-2021 10:08

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I had an email on Friday saying it's now available in my area.

bbxxl 11-10-2021 11:20

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trickytree (Post 36096976)
Got an email Thursday saying Bingham (Notts) now has the 1Gig.

I'm in contract for another 12 months and to be honest I think all my hardware would struggle to really make the most of it anyway.
If they decide the UO bundle becomes the norm then fair enough but not going to forking out anymore just now.
Nice to know it's there ready to go if my situation changes though

I was told it will cost me an extra £1/month when it’s available. For a quid I reckon it’s worth it.

wildfruit 11-10-2021 15:38

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Now available on the Basildon hub. Unfortunately I don’t want to pay an extra £32pm on top of the £79 oomph so it’s not available to me.
Bit steep. Wouldn’t budge. Just tried to sell me homeworks instead.

lonespeaker 11-10-2021 16:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wildfruit (Post 36097047)
Now available on the Basildon hub. Unfortunately I don’t want to pay an extra £32pm on top of the £79 oomph so it’s not available to me.
Bit steep. Wouldn’t budge. Just tried to sell me homeworks instead.

Seems like virgin won't budge on the £111 for UO + gig1

sollp 11-10-2021 19:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36096682)
And, lets say someone did steal the hub site equipment.....

Who are they going to sell DOCSIS3.1 head end equipment to? ....Virgin?

The CMTS Cards a few years back were being stolen, no idea where they ended up or being sold to

Paul 11-10-2021 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36096692)
Given that many VM sites are pretty obvious, and a load of offices that could well be hub sites? are listed on the website, how many copper thefts has the secrecy policy prevented?

I used to work in a building next door to the Nottingham site (it was still NTL then).

Amusingly, its still called "Diamond Plaza", from the days 20+ years ago when it started life as Diamond Cable.

vm_tech 11-10-2021 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36097110)
I used to work in a building next door to the Nottingham site (it was still NTL then).

Amusingly, its still called "Diamond Plaza", from the days 20+ years ago when it started life as Diamond Cable.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/...-media-5823540

It’ll Probably change a bit soon…

Tricky Trevor 12-10-2021 07:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36097110)
I used to work in a building next door to the Nottingham site (it was still NTL then).

Amusingly, its still called "Diamond Plaza", from the days 20+ years ago when it started life as Diamond Cable.

And before Diamond Cable, I used to work close to the Rediffusion building in Sherwood.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trickytree (Post 36096976)
Got an email Thursday saying Bingham (Notts) now has the 1Gig.

I'm in contract for another 12 months and to be honest I think all my hardware would struggle to really make the most of it anyway.
If they decide the UO bundle becomes the norm then fair enough but not going to forking out anymore just now.
Nice to know it's there ready to go if my situation changes though

I was on chat a couple of weeks ago and I was told that it's not available yet in Nottingham. I did a post code check of my old house in Daybrook which is half a mile away and it's available there but not here yet in Arnold.

General Maximus 13-10-2021 18:56

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Just had another email saying there is a planned outage on this coming Tuesday s we will see what comes of it. The clock is ticking and time is running out.

Lee 14-10-2021 14:08

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I've had a few of those messages of the last months and its still not available in Huddersfield.

So don't hold your breath !

Night-Owl 19-10-2021 20:12

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Hello All, I got my 1gb today and want to get full speed to a computer with a 2.5gb port. I am thinking the Netgear RAX120 could bond 2 ports from the Virgin router for me and output full speed to my computer via CAT6. Has anyone had any experience doing this with the RAX120 before I buy one ?. Also can I choose any 2 Ports from the Virgin Router or does it need to be a specific 2. Thank you for any help you can give.

CBers 21-10-2021 11:44

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Thought I'd post since I have just upgraded from the 500Mb service to the the 1Gb service (Maidstone area).

Not impressed by the download speeds at all.

The max I have see in any Speedtests online (Ookla/DLSReports/VM) is 644mbps, and nearly always around the 300mbps.

This is slower than what I had before on the 500mbps service.

I run my Hub4 in modem mode, connected to pfSense running as a VM on my Ryzen 3600x server (Windows 10).

Will be contacting VM this weekend, as it will have been 3 weeks since installation/activation.

Thanks.

Night-Owl 21-10-2021 19:31

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Sorry to hear that CBers,

TBH I have never received less speed than the tier I was on. This time receiving 940mb because the router has not got a multigig port but that's purely because of that. I certainly would not be happy if I was receiving less as Virgin Broadband is not cheap, basically I am only paying as no one else can provide the speeds I am getting, if they could, I would switch instantly.

Definitely get onto Virgin, have you tried putting Virgin Router back to Router Mode and running cable direct from it, just to make sure the equipment in between is not causing the issue ?.

Best wishes

wesser 22-10-2021 09:07

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36058944)
The setup I have here assumes you have a router with a 10gigabit WAN, and a 10gbit mikrotik switch running RouterOS, I was kind of assuming people having such hardware would probably be able to follow!

Router is a UDM-Pro. https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/11/12.png
This has 2x 10gigabit SFP+ ports, 1 WAN and 1 LAN, as well as a gigabit WAN and 8 gigabit LAN. It also takes a hard drive for CCTV recording. It doesn't have wireless - I use dedicated APs for that. It is capable of routing 3.5GBit/sec with all the bells and whistles turned on, IPS/IDS etc, and about 8gbit with DPI but without IPS.

Switch is a Mikrotik CRS305-1G-4S+IN https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/11/13.png This is the cheapest switch they do with 10GbE that runs RouterOS rather than SwitchOS.

In essence what we are doing is taking the 10G WAN from the UDM Pro, splitting it into 2-3 1G links, and connecting that to the SH.

My setup I was splitting it into 2 1G links, as I only had 2 rj45 SFPs around. It looks like this:https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/11/14.png

The left port goes to the LAN side of the UDM, this is so that I can control, setup, and manage the switch while it is in use.

The next port is unused, if I had another SFP module, which is an "adaptor" like this: https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/11/15.png then it would go in here.

The next two ports have SFP modules in, these connect to the Superhub.

The final port has a 10GbE DAC cable in, this connects to the UDM Pro.https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/11/16.png

In the settings menu of the switch, I removed the ports I wanted to use for the "VM Bridge" from the default bridge.

I then created a new bonding group from the two ports with the rj45 SFPs in, making sure to disable ARP, in this image it was with ports 1+2 rather than 2+3 as in the image above:
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/11/17.png

I then created a new bridge, also disabling ARP:https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/11/18.png


I then added the interfaces I wanted to use on this bridge to it, namely the bonding group and 1 other SFP+ port, note that in this image I was using SFP+3 not 4 as in the photo of the switch above:https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/11/19.png


Crappy MSPaint drawing:https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/11/20.png


Stuff you would need to buy to completely replicate this:
Router, UDM-Pro https://linitx.com/product/ubiquiti-...-udm-pro/16313
Switch https://linitx.com/product/mikrotik-...1g-4s+in/15664
SFPs https://linitx.com/product/mikrotik-...r-module/14160
DAC cable https://linitx.com/product/ubiquiti-...dac-sfp+/16375
Example of wireless access points, I have a number of them in the house: https://linitx.com/product/ubiquiti-...njector)/14525

It is probably possible to do this with other hardware that I do not have to test and have never used but is cheaper, but obviously your mileage may vary.

Can you confirm whether or not this VM port bonding is still working or not?
I have followed your guide but cannot get this to work.

I have the Mikrotik CRS 305 coonected to the SH4 which sems to connect fine, I can't however get an internet connect out to my Edgerouter 6. I know the ER6 does noy have 10G ports but this is my first step before I lay out more cash for a 10G replacement. I want to keep a Ubiquiti edgerouter as all of my existing network is Ubiquit Edge.
Could I possibly have a copy of your config?

Wes

rtho782 22-10-2021 09:27

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wesser (Post 36098441)
Can you confirm whether or not this VM port bonding is still working or not?
I have followed your guide but cannot get this to work.

I have the Mikrotik CRS 305 coonected to the SH4 which sems to connect fine, I can't however get an internet connect out to my Edgerouter 6. I know the ER6 does noy have 10G ports but this is my first step before I lay out more cash for a 10G replacement. I want to keep a Ubiquiti edgerouter as all of my existing network is Ubiquit Edge.
Could I possibly have a copy of your config?

Wes

It does still work, I know people using similar setups right now on hub4s.

However, after drama I'm not on VM anymore (left them in Jan this year) so don't have a config for you I'm afraid.

I will probably go back when Gig1 reaches me but now I'm thinking I'll just wait for hub5 and not have to bother with balancing.

Sephiroth 22-10-2021 09:47

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Night-Owl (Post 36098366)
Sorry to hear that CBers,

TBH I have never received less speed than the tier I was on. This time receiving 940mb because the router has not got a multigig port but that's purely because of that. I certainly would not be happy if I was receiving less as Virgin Broadband is not cheap, basically I am only paying as no one else can provide the speeds I am getting, if they could, I would switch instantly.

Definitely get onto Virgin, have you tried putting Virgin Router back to Router Mode and running cable direct from it, just to make sure the equipment in between is not causing the issue ?.

Best wishes

Night Owl has it right. In modem mode, if a switch is the first device after the VM hub, then only once Internet path is available as there is no routing.

rtho782 22-10-2021 10:06

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wesser (Post 36098441)
Can you confirm whether or not this VM port bonding is still working or not?
I have followed your guide but cannot get this to work.

I have the Mikrotik CRS 305 coonected to the SH4 which sems to connect fine, I can't however get an internet connect out to my Edgerouter 6. I know the ER6 does noy have 10G ports but this is my first step before I lay out more cash for a 10G replacement. I want to keep a Ubiquiti edgerouter as all of my existing network is Ubiquit Edge.
Could I possibly have a copy of your config?

Wes


Try setting:

- The bridge protocol from RSTP to none
- The link monitoring on bond to none

wesser 22-10-2021 12:19

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36098452)
Try setting:

- The bridge protocol from RSTP to none
- The link monitoring on bond to none

Thank You mate, you have hit the nail on the head.
I think I had already tried what you said but the thing I didn't do was reboot he modem between every setting change.

Wes

rtho782 22-10-2021 14:37

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wesser (Post 36098455)
Thank You mate, you have hit the nail on the head.
I think I had already tried what you said but the thing I didn't do was reboot he modem between every setting change.

Wes

yeah the modem only wants to give out an IP address to one thing, so will get upset if it ever sees a 2nd thing without being rebooted.

Night-Owl 22-10-2021 18:34

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Hello All,

I am trying to find the most cost affective way of getting the full 1gb+ speed i.e 1175 Mbps to a computer with a 2gb port. So far I have multiple Poe switches etc but all only 1gb. I only need the 1175 speed to my computer as it's the only thing that can cope with it but if I have a few spare ports on a switch that are 2gb plus for future, all the better. I have a Orbi WiFi and the Hub 4. But obviously neither the Orbi or the Hub4 can give out over 1gb on one port. I was thinking of buying a Netgear Switch being the ms510tx-100eus that has multiple 2gb Ports, a few 1gb ports and a 10gb port with Aggregation. But I don't think adding this alone after the Hub4 in Router Mode or Modem mode would work because I am thinking the Router needs to be able to receive the full speed, aggregatate it and push it out to a switch or am I wrong ?. I e in theory could I put the Hub 4 in Router Mode, send 2 Ethernet cables from it to the Switch (ms510tx-100eus) and then from the switch, aggregate the 2 ports and send the full 1175mps to the computer on a 2gb Port with other ports on the switch going to my other Poe switches which I don't need over 1gb for ?, Thanks for any help you can give.

rtho782 22-10-2021 21:23

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Night-Owl (Post 36098474)
Hello All,

I am trying to find the most cost affective way of getting the full 1gb+ speed i.e 1175 Mbps to a computer with a 2gb port. So far I have multiple Poe switches etc but all only 1gb. I only need the 1175 speed to my computer as it's the only thing that can cope with it but if I have a few spare ports on a switch that are 2gb plus for future, all the better. I have a Orbi WiFi and the Hub 4. But obviously neither the Orbi or the Hub4 can give out over 1gb on one port. I was thinking of buying a Netgear Switch being the ms510tx-100eus that has multiple 2gb Ports, a few 1gb ports and a 10gb port with Aggregation. But I don't think adding this alone after the Hub4 in Router Mode or Modem mode would work because I am thinking the Router needs to be able to receive the full speed, aggregatate it and push it out to a switch or am I wrong ?. I e in theory could I put the Hub 4 in Router Mode, send 2 Ethernet cables from it to the Switch (ms510tx-100eus) and then from the switch, aggregate the 2 ports and send the full 1175mps to the computer on a 2gb Port with other ports on the switch going to my other Poe switches which I don't need over 1gb for ?, Thanks for any help you can give.


In order to connect >1GBe you need a router with either multiple 1GBe WAN ports that can operate in balance-rr (not any other mode), or a router with >1GBe WAN and a switch which can do the balance-rr for you, as well as link to the router with >1GBe.

It sounds like your router does neither. I don't know if your netgear switch has the necessary options needed to support this, even if paired with a router with >1GBe WAN.

If you want to do this, I'd strongly suggest using equipment that others have verified as working, unless you really know what you are doing and can figure it out yourself and have kit sat around you'd like to try it with.

However, given that the Hub5 now exists, and will apparently be launching in greater quantities next year, I'd strongly suggest it's worth waiting for that, and just getting a multi-gigabit router if you want to go over 1G. This might mean the UDMP, or one of various Mikrotik devices, or I think some of the "consumer" brands produce routers with 2.5GBe WAN, but I don't pay much attention to Asus/Netgear/Etc so don't really know.

Edit:

The cheapest way to do this is with the Mikrotik RB4011 as a router: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07HBW2NTR

This can link multiple 1GbE ports in a bond to the SH4, and has an SFP+ port for 10GbE (or 2.5GbE) to the PC. This would be a router and take over routing functions from your Orbi. It has no Wifi. It won't support working with the Hub5 via a single 2.5GbE port as it only has 1 multigig port, not one for WAN and 1 for LAN. The Hub5 might support balance-rr still, we don't know yet.

The next level up would be the RB5009. This is out of stock everywhere. But it would do as above, with the addition of working well with the hub5.

The "I don't like microtik" option would be the QNAP QHORA-301W, and a mikrotik switch. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08M4C5B1P and Mikrotik CRS305-1G-4S+IN as I used above.

Asus and ZyXEL also have a router that would work with that mikrotik switch.

You can't do this with your Orbi devices, at best you can use them for wifi and not as routers. I don't know how well this works I've never used them.

Night-Owl 22-10-2021 21:59

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Thank you rtho782 very much, excellent advise. Even pointing out the Superhub 5 that might be available next year to me. As you say even with that though I would still require a multigig router / switch so buying one now would not be a waste of money.

Appreciated.

rtho782 09-11-2021 10:28

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Ipswich went live this morning!

I've placed an order for m500 at £36/m with £75 bill credit, and a 15GB O2 sim at £8/m. Hopefully this Volt stuff will be easy to activate.

It will amuse me if they send me a SH3 and then have to send out a SH4/5 shortly after.

BenMcr 09-11-2021 10:36

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
How did you place the order?

If you've done the Fibre and O2 SIM order at the same time then I would have though it would already be a Volt bundle

rtho782 09-11-2021 10:37

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36100536)
How did you place the order?

If you've done the Fibre and O2 SIM order at the same time then I would have though it would already be a Volt bundle meaning the included broadband tier is the uplifted one.

So I'm not convinced you'd get a further uplift to Gig1 - you should have been able to do that immediately as part of your order your area is now enabled.

Separately, not directly through VM or O2, both as independent orders, as new customers to each.

I went through Comparethemarket for the VM deal, and then, separately as I was waiting for PAC code to arrive, Uswitch for O2.

VM site lists only horrible Volt bundles I didn't want.

The absolute worst case scenario is that I end up on O2 paying the same as I was paying Three, and having to manually upgrade from M500 to Gig1 and pay the full £62/m or whatever, but I'd try to strongly argue that first.

BenMcr 09-11-2021 10:40

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Fair enough - and I deleted some of my previous post as I was overcomplicating it.

Will be interesting to see what happens once you apply for the Volt benefits then.

rtho782 09-11-2021 14:21

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https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/11/8.png

No hub 5 for me! :(

rtho782 10-11-2021 21:15

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https://imgur.com/sDX7zm3.png

"Either it's active, it's active soon, or you can't have it, and we won't tell you which."

Just #VMO2 things lol.

Guess I see what happens in 2 weeks.

rtho782 12-11-2021 13:49

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
VM activated, seeing M500 config.

It seems like Volt is managed through the O2 side so trying to talk to them now.

david_w2k 12-11-2021 14:22

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtho782 (Post 36100894)
VM activated, seeing M500 config.

It seems like Volt is managed through the O2 side so trying to talk to them now.

Yeah so originally I couldnt get my benefits to apply and a chat with O2 fixed this. Within a few days I got an email saying the benefits have been applied and I saw my double data etc. A few days after that I got a note from VM saying my Hub 4 was on the way (which was a nice surprise as even now you cannot order Gig1 in my area!).

The Hub 4 did initially have the 600 mbps config file (my previous one), after about 4 hours it randomly rebooted and was Gig1 was there (my impatient manual reboots made no difference)

rtho782 12-11-2021 18:32

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k (Post 36100897)
Yeah so originally I couldnt get my benefits to apply and a chat with O2 fixed this. Within a few days I got an email saying the benefits have been applied and I saw my double data etc. A few days after that I got a note from VM saying my Hub 4 was on the way (which was a nice surprise as even now you cannot order Gig1 in my area!).

The Hub 4 did initially have the 600 mbps config file (my previous one), after about 4 hours it randomly rebooted and was Gig1 was there (my impatient manual reboots made no difference)

Thanks, that gives me hope.

Not sure if I will bother harassing O2/VM more or just see if it fixes itself in a few days. I've already gone through one 90 min phone stint being passed around in circles.

ash45 13-11-2021 16:24

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
just had a tinker setting up PFsense on some spare hardware i had nocking about to see if i could get round robin working instead of splashing out for the unifi or other methods and it works perfectly fine, Using a QNAP QXG-2G1T-I225 for the LAN interface, currently this was just a point to point test using the 2.5Gbe card i have in my desktop but ive got a QNAP QSW-2104-2T on the way as my Unraid nas has 10Gbe ports ive never made much use of so covers both sides

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/11/12.png

t.j 14-11-2021 12:57

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Hi guys I am trying to get this to work with crs305-1g-4s+ and unifi dream machine. I have got it working but it seems to use one of the eth from hub 4 it is not balanced. and I can achieve preety close the same speed just coming from hub 4 to unfi. the best speed i have seen is 920mb

I know it can only be a setting issue if any one can point me in the right direction please I am going mad

Dan

Treble3 14-11-2021 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lonespeaker (Post 36097060)
Seems like virgin won't budge on the £111 for UO + gig1

I managed £84.99 plus the 4K movies I was 11 months into A 18 month contract

lonespeaker 14-11-2021 18:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Treble3 (Post 36101150)
I managed £84.99 plus the 4K movies I was 11 months into A 18 month contract

Thats a great price. Did you do it over the phone or web chat?

Treble3 14-11-2021 19:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lonespeaker (Post 36101182)
Thats a great price. Did you do it over the phone or web chat?

Phone and it took a while it’s just speaking to the right person sometimes


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