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It wasn't a debate it was a shouting match..

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This sums it up for me....

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Well, at least we can see that Biden is still showing signs of life. I wasn’t sure that he was actually responsive to stimulus. Where there’s life, there’s hope, although I’m not altogether sure what that hope is...

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My God! They are both aliens!

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Probably not but that's what Biden was going for.

His whole approach since the nomination has been to avoid doing much of anything and let Trump do the talking. He rarely makes interventions and the campaign sometimes spends the day off. Some of this might be COVID and people have speculated it's because he is worse than they're letting on.

But this so so far worked for him. The polling has remained consistant: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6247.html

I think that's why the debate was such a risk for him because he couldn't hide and would have to come out and perform. In the event he didn't seem as bad as has been made out and if the debate was argued to a draw that suits him fine.

Still two more debates to go.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commiss...xt-debate/#app

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Anything to help sleepy joe in his hour of need.

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Bless...

I know you’re a huge Trump fan, and not a big fan of facts, but the Commission is independent, and was responding to all the complaints.

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Biden often pauses before he speaks, as he has had a stutter all his life.

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No just an unbiased observer,and not a fan of woke media.

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Very nice publicity stunt from the guy who needs a day off to sleep.:rolleyes:

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https://media.tenor.com/images/2eff9...9ddc/tenor.gif

When it comes to the "duck test", you pass summa c.m laude - you’re not fooling anyone but yourself... ;)

Not sure what and independent body, which has run the Presidential Debates for over 60 years, has to do with "woke media"?


*Douglas Adams - If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family Anatidae on our hands

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What they need is a teacher as moderator.

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Yes someone who has attended an anger management course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66PnVjuns5Q

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They should learn from this. Put them both in a booth and only turn the microphones on when it is their turn to speak. Dim the light in the booth when the other is talking and turn it off altogether if they misbehave (eg by making dark signs and gestures) while the other is in full flow!

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Agreed. And they need Anne Robinson to moderate it :D

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Afforestation, is that one of the forest cities Europe is so famous for

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No, that’s Endor - easy mistake to make...

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Trump has Corona.

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And FLOTUS.

At the debate this week, the First Family sat together without masks, so they could all have it...

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Ideal time for him to check out the injecting bleach theory??

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Biden will have to get tested as well. Looks like debate 2 is off as well?

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If he's still well, could they do it online? Might make it easier to moderate.
But he is 74, classified as obese by his last medical so he may not be in top form come the next debate. I hope they both make a swift recovery and the US takes mask-wearing more seriously now.

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This popped up on Twitter before Trump"s tweet

https://twitter.com/TimInHonolulu/st...086623744?s=19

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Politically, surely this deprives Trump of the USP he'd tried to create - he's not "sleepy" Biden.

But it gives him and his supporters a get-out clause for not winning. Anyone expect to see a tweet from him in November saying something like:

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The news genuinely had me in tears this morning. Feeling really sorry for the virus, bad luck I must say.

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Or he comes out of this unscathed and is hailed as an American hero who survived covid19 ,gets a landslide victory at the polls and America is saved from a fate worse than death[sleepy joe].

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If he has faked this all (the ultimate 'Fake News'?!), and this is his strategy, then it just shows how desperate things have become. Either way, it shows him up to be an idiot.

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Not sure how you imagine this can be faked , there will be doctors swarming all over him.

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I think we've seen with Boris how his performance (and polling) has suffered post-Covid. And he is far younger and less overweight than Trump.

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Although I feel sorry for anyone with the virus and genuinely wish Donald and Melania a swift recovery, I did find this darkly funny. :D:D:D

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Would that be the same doctors who called him "the fittest President ever"?

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If the president of the USA is ill i would imagine he will be surrounded by the best doctors on the planet.

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Who I'm sure will be handsomely remunerated for giving the "correct" diagnosis.

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This thread has become a tin foil hat conspiracy theorists dream.

As a totally impartial observer all i can say is i wish the prez and wife a speedy recovery.

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https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/10/1.gif

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So is Trump going to drink bleach like he suggested earlier?

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I know your trying to make some kind of point here but i can't see what it is:shrug:

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He never advised to “drink bleach”, he suggested it should be injected, later claiming he was being sarcastic to the Fake News.

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Is that what you believe?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52407177

it's what he said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...tants-n1191991

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That he made it fake news, and that he wasn't serious at the time...? He was being serious at the time he said it, just got called out and back tracked.

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From the same article:
Not sure he comes across as the sharpest knife in the pack!

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I couldn't possibly make a judgement on that given the lack of evidence as to Trumps thinking at the time.

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He's American,they all come blunt out of the box;)

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You really need evidence based on everything else so far...?? So if he was 'joking / being sarcastic (he wasn't), isn't that just as bad, knowing just how stupid 'some' Americans can be.

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I'm trying not to rush to a judgement re the bleach, on your other point i'm not arguing against it.

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I don't think Trump was joking about the bleech thing. If you listen to him in context he is basically wondering if there is a way it can be adapted to be used inside the body rather than saying drink bleech. I don't know why he felt the need to go on a tangent about hypothetical cures for the virus in the middle of a press conference though.

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Because he’s a narcissist. He believes he has something important to add to any field he chooses to comment on and that everyone deserves to admire his free-thinking brilliance as much as he does.

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BREAKING: White House official says U.S President Donald Trump, is experiencing mild symptoms of Covid-19.

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As a humanitarian and the sake of the stability of the USA (and possibly beyond), I hope it remains mild, but given his age and weight he is at heightened risk of it developing into a serious problem over the coming week.

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Well, at least I have something in common with him.

This could get quite bad quite fast. He has the best healthcare possible and doesn't drink or smoke but otherwise, he is in the most at-risk group. Old and overweight. :erm:

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I'll take that over skinny young and underpaid;)

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Ronna McDaniel, the chairwoman of the Republican national committee, has reportedly tested positive for coronavirus. Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner have tested negative.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...080b5d569e2ee4

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What if the election has to be postponed:shocked:

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There are two areas to consider.

Those who get it bit are asymptomatic and carry on regardless.

Those who get it, early onset of symptoms begin and they can progress rapidly depending on risk factor.

Remember our own Prime Minister, Johnson his symptoms started like Trumps and then progressed to the point he ended up fighting for his life in Intense care and Trump is has 20+ years on Boris.

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Well judging by this tax returns he is underpaid as well. ;)

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Yup him having symptoms is very concerning.

As much I seriously dislike Trump I hope he pulls through quickly. Not only in a general human way but also because the ramifications of him becoming seriously ill or dying before the election would be huge.

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As long as the inland revenue think the same alls good

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If he unable take part in the November election then all that postal voting to date will be in vain.

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This is where having watched Designated Survivor comes in handy. :D

But my (amateur) understanding is that, should Pelosi get the job, she keeps it until the next election ... so “acting” president is a bit of a misnomer.

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Why would elections be postponed or not happen ?

Surely they can pick someone else from Trumps party to replace him, or just pull out, and if there were only the two choices, the other wins by default ?

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Joe sleepwalks into the job by default will go down well.

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BREAKING: NBC reports Former Vice President Joe Biden and his wife Jill have tested negative for COVID-19. They were both in fairly close proximity to the president during the debate on Tuesday night.

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It is what it is...

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It won’t happen because the founding principle in America is that even though on a personal level, the sitting president may become incapacitated, it must still have a functioning chief executive. If Trump becomes too ill and dies, Mike Pence will be sworn in as the 46th President of the United States. It is almost likely should something as drastic as this could happen, Congress may delay the election. If not, Republicans will have to have to choose a new presidential candidate. Joe Biden doesn’t win by default.

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In a no election scenario the problem is Pence falls out of the line of succession at the end of his term either way. Who is the President after that?

The Senate would still have 2/3rds of its membership if there's no election. There’d be no House of Representatives.

(I don’t think there will be no election but intrigued by the thought experiment).

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Normally, it would Chuck Grassley, Senate President Pro Tempore - he’s 87 years old.

However, given that Democrats would have a majority of the returning senators (35 out of 65), they might chose to replace Grassley with a member their party as president pro tempore.

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Trump was supposed to take part in a midday call about coronavirus support for seniors that was listed on his public schedule - instead, Vice President Mike Pence kicked off the call.

He hasn't tweeted since he announced he had tested positive (14 hours ago) - yesterday, he tweeted/retweeted over 60 times.

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flat battery?

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Sadly reminds me of how BoJo's Covid was talked down - had it mildly, still working, nothing to see, then hospital as a precaution only and finally on a ventilator. Hope it doesn't come to this.

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Inclined to agree. I think there’s potential wider benefits to a high profile, serious coronavirus case as people have become complacent over the last few months.

Although I also do wish him well in the long run, I doubt it will humble him. I could see him getting worse using recovery as “proof” it’s not serious.

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So far the count is 10 all connected to the White house in the past week.



White House advisor Hope Hicks tested positive on Thursday.

President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump tested positive on Friday.

Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) tested positive on Thursday.

Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel tested positive on Wednesday.

University of Notre Dame President Rev. John I. Jenkins on Friday told students and faculty he tested positive.

Three journalists who work at the White House and one staff member reportedly tested positive on Friday, according to memos from the White House Correspondents Association.

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I’ll go out on a limb and suggest Trump won’t die.

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https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/new...ys/3595750001/

They’ve given Trump an antibody cocktail that is currently in Stage 3 trials - that’s interesting...

https://www.regeneron.com/covid19 Regeneron press release from 3 days ago

https://newsroom.regeneron.com/news-...ral-levels-and Giving the President a treatment that’s only been tested on less than 2000 people is concerning, imho.

Just on the news = Trump on way to Walter Reed Medical Center (by helicopter).

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BREAKING: President Trump to be transferred to Walter Reed National Military Hospital. To remain in a special suite for next few days.

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As a 'precautionary measure'. Exactly what they said about Johnson when he went to hospital.

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Seems to be moving faster than BoJo's illness. I hope this is a V-shaped recovery situation.

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They must have real concerns. They'll know the message this sends out. I doubt this is just a precaution.

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Especially bearing in mind that there is a well-equipped medical centre in the White House.

#PrayforTrump is trending on Twitter too. :(

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He hasn’t communicated in 18 hours, he’s been given an experimental antibody cocktail, he has several co-morbidities, and he’s being helicoptered to Walter Reed - I have to agree with you.

More info on the Regeneron treatment

https://www.technologyreview.com/202...ent-trump-get/

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Biden's campaign has pulled all negative ads.

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Reports suggest Trump has Nasal congestion, mild to middling fever and cough.

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VM channel 607 CNN live feed from outside the White House (telephoto lens), showing the helicopter on the South Lawn

Statement from Press Secretary https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1601676220

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"...working throughout the day" but not Tweeting.

Of course.

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He walked to Marine One, which is a good sign.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1601677620

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:rolleyes:

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I’m not really sure what the eye roll is for. It’s fairly self-evident that the President is experiencing one of the more serious cases based on the information we have. Timelines, experimental treatments, Pence standing in at the one call that was left on his schedule and others and being transferred to hospital.

Andrew is simply noting behaviour that was/is uncharacteristic.

The United States are always going to downplay how bad it is to not give it’s enemies an opportune moment to escalate hostilities and to reassure the stock markets. The Trump campaign similarly as they have campaigned on his vitality compared to “sleepy Joe”.

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An update on the click2Houston website published: October 2, 2020, 11:44 pm which gives information on Mr Trumps health status also contains information on other positive test results

"Kellyanne Conway, president’s campaign manage test positive; Trump moved to Walter Reed Medical Center"

https://www.click2houston.com/news/l...-19-diagnoses/

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I'm surprised that Trump's doctors haven't logged into CF for expert medical advice;)

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Why - no one’s offered any?

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Perhaps none of us are qualified.;)

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Jeremy Corbyn's brother throws his weight behind TRUMP in US election risking family feud

Jeremy Corbyn's elder brother Piers Corbyn insisted US President Donald Trump should be supported after doing his "best" to protect the livelihoods of the American people during the pandemic

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...on-2020-latest

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I thought prejudice against left-handed people had diminished in the modern world?

Your comment seems a bit "sinister"... ;)

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That's a lot of Doctors for someone with mild symptoms.

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Not really - in the States, they heavily specialise, so for the President, they would have the best in the hospital attending.

On a related note, Chris Christie is the 8th attendee at last weekend’s Rose Garden event to test positive for COVID-19
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1601740357

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Went to CNN for the sceptical viewpoint. "Massive scandal" involving the timeline - Doctor seemed to say he was diagnosed 72 hours ago and given treatment then.

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Dr Garibaldi said he had received the antibody cocktail 48 hours ago (so, on Thursday morning Eastern Time).

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As if joe public is going to get any real facts on his condition. The more confusion the better it is for him.