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Compromise - I know that notion died in 2016 - would be the result. Either way I'm only pointing out that in the UK FPTP, an unelected House of Lords and an ineffective Head of State leave us some distance from what could be considered democracy. |
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Point of order - our head of state is not ineffective. The monarch does her job perfectly well. Electing a head of state to the constitutional and ceremonial role occupied by the monarch wouldn’t do anything to make the role more politically active (which is what you appear to be confusing with effectiveness). To do that we would have to make deep constitutional changes and create an executive presidency after the American or French model. I don’t find that idea especially attractive.
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She literally sat there and had to carry forward illegal advice from a Prime Minister. Totally ineffective in a role that could and should perform an important check and balance against an incompetent executive.
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She was unable to take separate legal advice from that of the a Government hence she was completely ineffective which was my exact point. Your subservient mind may not be able to see the obvious however many of us can. |
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It wasn't illegal but it was unlawful and that wasn't so until the Supreme Court ruled on it so the Queen's actions were perfectly correct at the time of asking. As for ineffective many people have confirmed that the meetings she has with the Prime Minister of the day are anything but comfortable for the incumbent. |
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You should get your own show. |
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It’s best not to demonstrate complete ignorance when your argument is already on shaky ground. |
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I don’t think the Government are blameless, indeed they deserve most of the blame for that farce. |
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The core of the problem was that a biased Speaker who showed clearly that he would do all he could to sabotage Brexit simply manipulated the rules of Parliament and caused a Constitutional crisis. Fortunately, in the new Parliament we will have a more traditional Speaker whom both sides can respect. |
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Unlawful: not authorised by law. If you’re going to play lawyers, do try to get your basic facts right. The Supreme Court ruled the advice unlawful, not illegal. There is more than a trivial difference between the two. ---------- Post added at 20:51 ---------- Previous post was at 20:48 ---------- Quote:
You can’t judge someone ineffective for not doing something they are neither permitted nor expected to do. You might as well declare your car ineffective because it doesn’t float. |
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Your "point" is to perpetuate the lie that free market capitalism is the answer when everyone can see that this ship has sailed, hit the iceberg and all we see is you rearranging the deckchairs ... ---------- Post added at 22:21 ---------- Previous post was at 22:18 ---------- Quote:
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The point of the Crown in our constitution is that it is where power is located. That power cannot be exercised by the person wearing the crown, because they are constitutionally restricted from doing so, and it cannot be appropriated by legislators who must swear allegiance to it as a condition of office. It cannot be taken by revolution because nobody can wear it but the legitimate heir. Now we could junk all of this and opt for a republic with an executive presidency, with powers delineated by a written constitution, but that is no guarantee of better government or decision making. In fact our own Supreme Court, operating with years of precedent and Acts of Parliament (or lack of, hence “unlawful”, not “illegal” in the case of prorogation), dealt with that issue rather more quickly than the Americans are presently dealing with the potential impeachment of Donald Trump, and all the while the United States has a head of state that is a divisive political figure rather than a symbol of unity. If we were setting up a country from scratch today, it’s highly unlikely we would create a constitutional monarchy. But the point is, we aren’t creating a country from scratch, we’re living in one whose democracy and institutions have remained stable for longer than just about anywhere else in the world, and much of that sense of stability, continuity and unity is symbolised by the Crown. Asking whether the Queen should involve herself in government more directly appears trivial by comparison. |
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As for 'free market capitalism', what do you propose instead? Communism doesn't work. The system that works best is a mixed economy, which is what we have. |
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The economy isn't working well, and will be worse if those self centered idiots get another 5 years. Borrowing not seen since the 1970s is planned by this Govt., sublime to the ridiculous... Austerity was for nothing, has caused huge uneeded damage and solved nothing. |
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Jam today gruel tomorrow springs to mind Mr K.. |
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I can judge someone ineffective for having no role other than being a passive observer to an unlawful act. Yes, I absolutely can. |
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The Pacers are much maligned, and not very comfortable, but they are pretty reliable mechanically and cheap as chips to build and run. Arguably they saved a lot of less well used lines from closure in the 1980s when passenger numbers were in their trough and helped keep the network going. Those lines are busy now, but can only be busy now because of the lifeline your Pacer provided back then. There simply wasn’t the business case to provide anything more luxurious at the time, though I agree more could have been done before now. It’s interesting, the Barnett Formula means that when a project like Crossrail is approved in London, an amount of money is allocated for spending in Scotland because money is being spent in England, and not because there is a specific project requiring funding. The formula was designed to prevent easier business cases in high population areas like London sucking up government investment, leaving Scotland with its small, dispersed population behind. Yet no such equivalent arrangement exists within England, meaning that each region’s capital projects are all competing for the same pot of money as London, where the business case is always going to be easier to make because of the high density, relatively wealthy population. Anyway, give your Pacer a pat on the bodyshell this evening - it may be the reason you can catch a train to work at all. And in any case it’ll be finally gone into retirement within 12 months. |
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Mmm the pacers that were meant to be phased out by (iirc) 2020 but will now be about till 2023 ish. Because, reasons..... They’re atrocious and I refuse to use them. If I need to get to London or Heathrow I’ll take the TPE to York and connect from there rather than going to Darlington via pacer |
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And it's all the fault of <fill party name here> and will be fixed by <fill party name here>.
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Looking at the papers this morning it's seems that the message from senior labour party members is vote tory to avoid a national disaster.
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The papers don’t appear to afford the same coverage to the Rt. Hon. Kenneth Clarke QC. A man who has held genuinely senior positions in Government saying he can’t bring himself to vote Tory. |
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Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn to face off in live BBC debate.
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Sorry to hear about your delayed train. You should have been on the planet when the railways were a nationalised industry. Not only were they often late and overcrowded, but they were filthy too, and their curled up sandwiches were legendary. :sick: |
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We have never had more people in unstable employment, or more “working poor” since industrialisation, inequality has never been higher. The fifth richest country in the world with millions of people resorting to food bank use. Public services are deteriorating. You are fooling absolutely no-one with your party political broadcasts form the Conservative Party. Apologies I forgot selling off the family silver on the cheap. Royal Mail privatisation being the most recent example. |
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Things were much better way back when I was a lad . . .
There were more jobs than workers to fill them, many people were 'poor' but spent their meager earnings wisely and not on the latest phone, we had milk delivered to our doorstep, the postman usually brought letters not junk mail, schools didn't need to spend thousands on laptops for everyone, hardly anyone got offended by being called silly names, we were happy with our coal fires and single glazed steel frame windows, if you were lucky enough to have a car you could fix it yourself, hard drugs were explicitly for the rich and famous (we had to get by with homegrown), and kids used to be playing outdoors, and much much more . . Yep, much better off I tell ya :p: |
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and footballers weren't millionaires, police could safely clip you round the ear, and there was more than one bus a day
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I challenge those who say they will vote Labour to justify how they can do this in the face of rank antisemitism from Corbyn right across his supporting cohort.
"Anyone but Boris" still potentially puts a bunch of terrorist lovers into power. |
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Are you seriously in line with that lot? |
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Doesn't alter the disgraceful facts about the Labour Party. |
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47454993 https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...after-activist https://www.theguardian.com/politics...try-blind-spot |
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Baroness Warsi sides with the Palestinians - no surprise really because of her ethnic affiliation. She made a point of asking a question about Parliament recognising Palestine as a state. Really nothing to do with the UK but clearly bias from her ethnicity. Then those who disagree with her position are Islamophobes.
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I think a two-state solution is the only way to resolve the problem, but unfortunately Arafat and others lost their best chance to achieve that by refusing to drop daft demands that Israel could never possibly agree to, such as the right of return for the descendants of displaced Palestinians. Whatever the rights or wrongs at play, resettling all those people in the land would De facto end the Israeli state from day one.
I do not, however, subscribe to the monstering the State of Israel gets at the hands of the British Left, nor the anti-Semitic abuse British Jews get from the Left when they dare to speak up for Israel as a legitimate state. It is the abuse of those who believe in Israel that is anti Semitic, and sadly far too many of Corbyn’s cheerleaders are engaged in it. |
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I have no problem with them saying that, it is the manner and degree that is totally obnoxious. For those that claim it's only a handful, they're wrong. These examples are only the ones caught out. Many more have the same opinions, but haven't said so in such a public manner, or simply haven't yet been uncovered. |
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That’s like saying there are “many more” Islamophobes in the Conservative Party they just haven’t been caught yet, or many more xenophobes voted for Brexit they just know when to keep quiet. As we all know it’s a big red herring I’ll move back to domestic issues https://www.theguardian.com/society/...s-under-tories More evidence of profits being taken out of the NHS by chronically under resourcing it. |
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Most, it not all, of this "Islamophobia" is directed at the real, actual actions of Muslims, eg Muslim(ie not Asian) sex gangs. The people doing most to spread "hatred" of Muslims, are Muslims themselves. Just because only x thousand went off to join ISIS, doesn't mean thousands more aren't still in this country that support them. Just look at the polls that expressed support for Bin Laden after 9/11. Just look at the the number of people that went off to join him as a result. Why should there be anything wrong with criticising such behaviour and wider support of that behaviour? |
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Anyway I hope we are all making sure that everyone in their household who is eligible to vote is registered to vote?
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Me - undecided on my vote but want to leave the EU. Wife - busy wondering which shite to record off the TV later Daughter - why is facebook so slooooww today 2 cats - feed me dog - *woof* (ball) *wags tail* |
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Your assertion is to more valid than saying anti-Semitism has it’s roots in the Israeli Defence Force using helicopter gun ships and firing missiles in civilian areas. There’s a billion Muslims on the planet. Ignoring those who were actually fighting over territory, a few thousand here and there is similar to comparing Christianity to Ku Klux Klan membership. |
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The Multicultural idea doesn't work, has never worked, and is the strange fantasy of a future wherein everyone holds hands and never ever has a bad word to say about how others live their lives.
and if people think I'm talking crap, just look around your local area and see the separate 'communities' that have sprung up, each with a wary and suspicious eye on each other. No I'm not racist, I'm realist :p: |
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I don't see you complain when those of Jewish "ethnic affiliation" support the state of Israel .. ---------- Post added at 11:59 ---------- Previous post was at 11:58 ---------- Quote:
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I just said I'm not racist, I've got no idea how they think . . but if people isolate themselves there's probably a reason for it
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Update - just realised that in fact they would need to be trained in 4 years, as the next intake will be in September 2020 for the 20/21 Academic year. ??? |
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Jeremy Corbyn's dirty dozen: The 12 would-be Labour MPs who have ALL been mired in controversy in just 24 hours - from calling a Jewish councillor a 'Shylock' to threatening to 'put a gun to Theresa May's head'
It makes interesting reading. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ntroversy.html Had my first local candidate at the door earlier [Labour party]. |
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Labour are killing themselves off,i'm content to leave them to it. |
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Just to prove how much the Conservatives hate the poor, first we have Jacob "Too Clever to Die in a Fire" Rees-Mogg now the flooding in Yorkshire "isn't a national emergency" according to the Prime Minister.
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By all means call JRM "insensitive" or "detached from reality" but to ascribe to him and every Conservative (including me) as "hating the poor" is going too far. On your second point, is Yorkshire national or local/regional? You're seriously bending your credibility. A pity because I sometimes enjoy your writings. |
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I’m sure flooding in the South East would be classified as a “national emergency”. |
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By jumping it up to "National Emergency" and then deriding the PM for this distinction you become less credible. I am disappointed. |
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So are there any other examples of where a national emergency has been declared in this sort of situation?
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He’s not exactly renowned for his veracity, is he? |
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JRB was speaking from a personal perspective, and I agree with him. The flooding up here isn’t a National emergency, we all know that flooding is only a major issue in the south. |
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Did you not see that? |
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Has Corbyn or that Lib Dem woman (can't remember her name, swinton or something) mentioned it at all?
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Yeah - Corbyn's there doing the rounds.
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Wouldn't surprise me if he now pledges to dredge the Bristol channel and create 700 million sand bags in order to be ready for the next one ;) |
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