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You're French is excellent ;)

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:shrug: it's where he belongs :cool:

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So many people proved to be guilty on all counts . . social media at it's finest :D

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trial by media, when is the execution before or after a court case

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Yeah its social media at fault for him being best friends with potentially the world's biggest under age sex trafficer, having all his royal titles stripped, paying someone 12 million quid for absolutely no reason, being arrested, being evicted from his house, dunno about you but I respect the publics right to call him a sweaty nonce after all that.

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I'm sure calling somebody (especially a Royal) a 'sweaty nonce' on an internet forum, is something the Government and other concerned bodies are trying to criminalise . . the knock at the door might not be an Amazon delivery ;)

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Perhaps, but not in this case!

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No, its where "nonces" belong.

He's was arrested over allegations of misconduct in public office
i.e. passing on documents he (presumably) had no right to pass on.

Hardly "nonce" territory.

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Lord Mandelson arrested.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cew8jde9pxqt

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Soon to be just Peter Mandelson?

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or Number 3800206142

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I'd see him in more of a "Genial Harry Grout" role in future.

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I think there is something more to consider here.

Why has this all happened now? Is it because the US has released a trove of evidence which has made it impossible to cover up; or did the UK security services know this all the time and either failed to report it to the Government (which I think is unlikely), or were the UK security services completely incompetent and didn’t know know any of this stuff (which I also think is unlikely), or was this all well known, but nobody did anything so as to 'not rock the boat’, not bring the monarchy into disrepute? Well, fine well done, that worked out really well didn’t it?

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commons speaker grasses on Mandy

Politics latest: Commons Speaker passed Mandelson information to police - Starmer facing PMQs

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...enoch-12593360

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Evidence of what exactly?
The wilful misinterpretations(to paraphrase Jane Austen) the media are putting on things is ridiculous and sinister.

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Who knows, what's come out already leads you to think its much more than just a sex trafficking ring though

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"leads you to think" as in nothing in the way of evidence. No force or coercion involved. Even the Maxwell jury didn't think that.

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<insert obligatory observation about the tedious nature of your inevitably contrarian take-du-jour>

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You appear to be putting a positive spin on someone who was found guilty of conspiracy to entice minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, conspiracy to transport minors to participate in illegal sex acts, transporting a minor to participate in illegal sex acts, sex trafficking conspiracy, and sex trafficking of a minor.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr...sexually-abuse

Grooming is coercive behaviour…

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/b...exual-grooming

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The evidence is the people involved, politicians, big businesses men, in other words people intelligence services the world over would love to have something on, if you think this is just about a pervert and his chums you are in for a big surprise, oh and I thought that's exactly what the maxwell jury found her guilty of, coercion

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Well put

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And how much of this recently published "evidence" has anything to do with that? It's just information with a wilful spin put on it.
So any examples of proven wrongdoing in this recent set of "revelations"?

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Here's a good example of the wilfulness of the media.
Link
Then.....
Link

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Chris is right, you are just a contrarian and nothing short of a full written confession from the agencies involved will satisfy you and I can't be bothered with your tireless rebuttaling so I'm going to leave it there with you but before I stop I'll just throw this out for other members to digest, newly released US Department of Justice files show epstein had extensive long term ties to several intelligence agencies particularly Mossad, a 2020 FBI informant was convinced epstein was a co opted mossad agent, leaked emails from the epsten files showed he brokered agreements between Israel and Mongolia and the ivory Coast, Ehud Barak features heavily in the epstein files, Alex Acosta gave him that sweetheart deal reportedly due to him being told by higher ups that he was a CIA asset, Polands government investigated epstein for links between him and Russian intelligence services but other than that there's nothing linking him to anything apart from his ties to the arms trade early in his career but as a counter balance, Alan Dersowitch says he'd have been a liability!

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So nothing sex related, which is what the release of documents was meant to be about and for which others are being forced to resign etc. How much evidence of that is there? I gave a very recent example(many others exist) of where the media have wilfully misled people. That is undeniable. It makes it increasingly difficult to know what is true and what isn't.
Not sure "a FBI informant believes" is proof of anything.

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The media (especially the written) are just arsewipes looking for clicks.

"Man Kills Kids To Feed Family"

turns out to be nothing more than a story of a Mongolian goat herder putting meat on the table because the local Asda is 40 miles away.

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Personally I'm just fed up of hearing about "Epstein" and his files.

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Which is fair enough; but it does appear that a number of people (young girls) were abused by people who assumed that their status or power or wealth made them ‘above the law; which only apples to little people’, not them.

Oh dear.

No sorry Paul, but I think you are absolutely wrong, this needs to continue, there needs to be more and more exposure of evidence. Let everyone see how the ‘great and the good’ behaved.

Ands then let people make purchasing choices based on that!

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I agree with Paul, it's 'in your face' just too much.

Yes I realise some prominent people are linked with naughty things, do I need to know all the intricate details? No, not really thanks

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I think it's important that people don't get away with it just because they're rich and powerful. It would appear the reason some files are not being released is that they're implicating people who still have the power to stop them. Mandelson and Andrew have been exposed because Trump's administration doesn't really care about them.

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https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2026/03...3410195933.jpg

Living the life eh :rolleyes:

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And? They had been for a swim, so what?

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