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Sounds like someone desperately seeking reasons why BJ didn’t get the votes he thought he was "promised", when the most likely answer is that he was lied to...

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The theory is that Boris has enough support for him to essentially choose his rival and he would rather not face Gove or Stewart. Not because he would lose to them but because it might be a more bruising contest in terms of how Boris comes out of it. They think (correctly IMO) that Hunt will essentially be Mr Nice Guy.

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Ironically the only question Stewart actually answered, that he wouldn't cut taxes, was the one for which the questioner had a go at him for not answering.

It was a waste of time though. Boris did alright, nothing for him to feel bad about. None of them stood out for better or worse. Stewart was really weird in his body language, he stands out purely because he said different things. That's about it. Oh Javid seems to have got a commitment for a independent inquiry into Islamophobia....

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I was thoroughly sick of it within about 15 minutes. Nobody really answered anything and was it just me or did Emily Maitlis only have pre-prepared attack lines for Boris?

The most entertaining thing about it was that Rory actually looked like someone had flipped his off switch whenever he thought the camera wasn’t on him.

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You do all realise you missed Italy v Brazil in the Women's World Cup ? Some far more talented, honest people competing there. Your loss ....

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Emily did not give them enough time to give detailed answers, and I think they all found that frustrating. If questioners ask their questions, they should listen to the answers rather than keep interrupting for no reason.

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Stewart also provided his 'answer' to Brexit by saying he would re-present the withdrawal agreement to Parliament, which was May's plan. He has no answers that will fly and they should ditch him on the next round.

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She did,but i was quite impressed by the way he just talked through it and didn't take the bait.
As for goofy his body language said it all.

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l had a more important job to do and that was sorting out my Mums winning tips for tomorrow.;)

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'SHOULD HAVE CHECKED' BBC apologise after it emerges Corbynite Imam who grilled Tory leadership rivals attacked Jews and blamed women for rape on social media



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/932685...m-anti-israel/


The BBC vetting process needs work if this is the quality of it's guests.

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The guidelines were they each had a minute to answer the question.

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It would have been nice if they had the floor during that minute rather than be subject to constant interruptions.

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What difference would that have made as they would have still obfuscated their way through any difficult questions.

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That was never going to happen at the bbc.

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Looks like Stewart is gonna go tonight.

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6pm for results isn't it

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What! :eeek: even after he took his tie off :eek:

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Some tactical voting for Javid to ensure Stewart is out this round according to journalists on Twitter.

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He has no idea how nuts he looks and sounds on TV. And whatever you think of Teresa May’s withdrawal agreement, proposing to basically pick it up where she left off is a totally bonkers strategy.

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I think he does. He sounds different. He is a spoiler candidate in the end, I think the Johnson camp views him as someone with a suicide vest willing to detonate himself to damage Johnson in a battle he can't win. You had four Tory candidates talking of all the tax cuts they would make and he is sitting there saying you can't afford it. He knows it's deeply unpopular with the members, he is deeply unpopular with the members, but it resonates with the wider public. The longer he is in the worse it is for Johnson after he wins.

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Probably setting his stall for the next Leadership Election after BJ implodes upon contact with the actuality of the PM’s job

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Good to see democracy in action !
What a way to choose a leader of a country, whoever has been backstabbed last then voted in by 0.2% of the population..

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Should be irrelevant, it's not Pop Idol.

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Except, as we’ve observed endlessly in this thread over the past couple of weeks, we don’t ever directly elect an executive in the UK. Westminster doesn’t, Holyrood doesn’t, the Senedd doesn’t, Stormont doesn’t. The only exceptions are city region metro-mayors, where they exist.

Parties elect their leaders, The Queen appoints a PM on advice as to Parliment’s confidence. This arrangement has suited both main parties from time to time, a fact Boris was doubtless aware of when trolling about it with that opinion piece, no matter embarrassing the Left would now like it to seem.

On the contrary, he wants to be the one representing us at all the most important occasions internationally and steering the cabinet. If you don’t have the presence that tends to prompt people to take you seriously, then they tend not to take you seriously. It was fairly obvious to me that he lacks the instinctive awareness that his off-the-ball game is actually important. Squirming around on his chair, staring at the floor and looking like his batteries had gone flat for a minute at a time just because it’s someone else’s turn to speak really isn’t Prime Ministerial behaviour.

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Goofy is out

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Stewart is out. Actually lost votes. Hunt still 2nd

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Yes its nailed on for Mr Blobby, then shortly after Mr Corbyn.

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Goofers might join comrade corbechev in the communist party,he's done all he can to kill off the Tory's might as well defect.

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Yes he does seem to have done something outside politics and talks sense and honestly. Definitely in the wrong party, or he could be the new chief troublemaker ;)

Wonder who they'll elect when Blobby doesn't deliver Brexit on 31/10?

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They don't elect a new leader every week,they will stick with the new one for quite some time.

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And it's certainly not Britain's Got Talent. :D

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The current leadership contest shortlist...

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Are you still a member Hugh?

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First round voting over. If Johnson is 'lending' votes to get the outcome he wants you would expect Javid to have a great round to knock out Gove......

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Javid out.

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Gove moves into 2nd. Hunt will probably make the second round.

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Gove could beat Johnson with members votes cant see Boris going a month without a big mistake against Gove

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Gove is probably the most likely to actually challenge him in votes but still no chance if polls are to be believed. I think it will be Hunt, I can't see Boris Johnson not sending votes to Hunt to make sure Gove isn't in.

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Two spoilt ballot papers so obviously two Tory MP's did not like any of the candidates.:D

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Maybe the crayons snapped? :D

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Rory probably tried to sign one with his dummy.

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Are you an MP Papa

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The backstabber is out

It's bojo and Hunt

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Or

johnsonv Hunt

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Now it's down to the membership. I have a distinct feeling of doom.

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were doomed as corporal Jones used to say and it so true waiting for the meltdown when he fails to deliver

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Or

BJ v Hunt

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Who was your preferred candidate?

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John Laurie
› Private James Frazer is a fictional Home Guard platoon member and undertaker portrayed by John Laurie on the BBC television sitcom Dad's Army. He is noted for his catchphrases "we're doomed!" and "Rubbish!"

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The great fraud vs the man who disappears more then Lord Lucan.

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ayeeeeeeeeeee frazer and jones catchphrase was don't panic of course

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Nah, it's Mr Blobby vs the Meerkat, now the Devil, Humpty Dumpty and Goofy have been knocked out...

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2019/06/9.jpg

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2019/06/10.jpg

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Or, a man whose surname is a euphemism for male genitalia versus a man whose surname is rhyming slang for a ladygarden. :Yikes:

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Now we just have a month of hustlings right? Wish Hunt would just quit now so we can get on with it.

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Its Conservative democracy at work..

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no chance of that after was no contest last time but we all know who going to win

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You've got too much spare time on your hands;)

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:naughty:

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5 Questions to ask:


1. How long do you give Boris as PM.
2. Will the **** hit the fan when/if he delivers Brexit.
3. Will there be another general election before the due date.
4. Could there be riots because of the poor will become poorer.
5. Will Britain become great again in all honesty.

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So, not questions, so much as thinly disguised predictions of doom ...

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1 that's a party decision
2 remainers will kick off but no one cares
3 depends on if it looks winable
4 they might get richer
5 needs a lot of work it's a depressing place at the moment

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I think there will have to be an election soonish. I don't see how Parliament holds....

Also Hunt really is a nothing politician. So bland. If you wanted a nondescript, generic, politician cast for a show Hunt is exactly the person you would pick.

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Gove was at least interesting:

What's the worst thing you've ever done?

May: I ran though a wheat field!
Leadsom: I smoked cannabis once at University, I regret it to this day
Stewart: I smoked opium in Iran
Boris: I broke the speed-limit! (being too lazy to cover your brief thereby handing Iran a PR excuse for their detention of a British citizen doesn't count for some reason)
Gove: I've done crack cocaine on several occasions at parties.

I doubt Hunt has ever done anything of interest ever.

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Being a crack head isn't interesting, smoking opium in Iran might be depending on the circumstances but any fool can take drugs and most of them aren't interesting

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BoJo's list is a TV series in itself including passing the details on of a colleague so he could get beaten up, wasting £34m on the garden bridge with no due diligence, wasting money on unreliable route master buses when efficient, cheaper buses could be bought off the shelf, promoting Boris Island airport and wasting money on the cable car with minimal passengers. And I've not even mentioned his Brexit campaign!
Gove and Stewart sound the more interesting pair.

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see the Chicken Boris has chickened out again what the matter Boris cant answer 1 question god help UK if he becomes PM



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All set to chair #Toryleadershipdebate on @SkyNews next Tuesday. @Jeremy_Hunt agreed to take part but @BorisJohnson has said no. Really?

The set’s built, the Tory supporting audience primed.

Are you really going to let them and YOUR country down, Boris?

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God help us!!!!!!!

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NO just some questions for your thoughts for the future.

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The "debates" are pointless exercises in muck raking.

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The dynamics of a Hunt-Boris debate on Sky may be somewhat different to the other debates. I encourage you to open your mind to this possibility.

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I encourage you to open your mind to the fact he said no.

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Oh dear Woman trouble for Bozza....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...y_to_clipboard

Maybe his post vote celebrations didn't go to plan.... :D

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Women eh you can't live with them and you can't live with them;)

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In your opinion as debates are part and parcel of being a politician applying for the job of becoming the next prime minister of this country.

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It's party members he needs to impress not a tv audience.

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Depending how bad this thing is with Boris Johnson the idiots who tried to get Hunt in to make it easier on him will have questions to answer if Hunt ends up as PM....

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Well yes it could all backfire,we live in interesting times.

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Never was the prediction that the only person who could stand in the way of BoJo getting into No. 10 was BoJo himself, truer.

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I actually think they are not - they are a waste of time, as we saw with Nick Clegg who apparently won the 2010 TV Debates but failed to gain any traction in the actual GE that year.

They are just a shit show, as Tuesday's BBC's farce showed.

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It won't.

Boris has made an idiot of himself loads of times - one more thing added won't stop him getting voted by the Tory Membership, who have already made up their minds, who they want - what happens in Boris's private life won't matter at all.

The Fake and Biased News Media will of course try to find every negative story possible on Boris, until the leadership battle concludes, because they don't want Boris.

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We'll see. We don't know what happened. If they were just shouting and some plates smashed it might not be too bad. The police aren't taking any action and said everyone was fine. I think there is something a bit weird about the story since his campaign has gone into radio silence and political journalists are acting a bit cagey.

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He doesn't seem like your happily married 2.2 children type the Tory crinklies crave. Hunt is in the race after all. Be a laugh if a remainer wins, when they've discarded leaver Gove..... Serves them right tbh.

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Hunt is now a leaver - sorry to disappoint.

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Bit like Theresa May then ? ;)

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You've called this one wrong. It's a matter of national interest if the police are called to the likely future PM's house. It's been reported across all media and is leading in the biased fake news news media that support BoJo like The Sun, Express, Daily Mail as well as impartial highly-regulated media sources ike Sky News.
Like Trump, Boris sells papers so there's a bit of affection for him even from sources that wouldn't support him in their editorials.

What do you mean by weird?

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The police are saying every thing was ok so nothing to report.

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No she would opt for Remain again - where as Hunt would vote leave this time round.

Hunt was initially a Remain campaigner in the 2016 referendum but has since said he would vote to leave should there ever be a second vote.

He has attributed his change in position to the “arrogance of the European Commission” during Brexit negotiations.

I remember Hunt has also compared the Brexit negotiation tactics of the European Union to the Soviet Union, which sparked criticism from EU officials and calls for an apology.

He's seen sense and the sheer arrogance of the corrupted EU, pity the lost souls around here who have not and want to carry on letting our country suffer at the hands of the cancerous EU.

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Well the papers, including the Torygraph, are 'reporting' it...
Maybe TM could be persuaded to stay on if they all ask nicely ? ;)

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I'm not sure Hunt would be too pleased.

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I think that Johnson is only getting support because of his views on Brexit, if it weren't for
Brexit, I think he'd have no chance.

If/when he delivers Brexit, it will be interesting to see if his support withers away. I think he will be a dangerous liability.

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This sums it up for me....

“I question the motives of the neighbours who stood there with a microphone pressed against the wall recording somebody’s row… so concerned were they, they went to The Guardian” – Richard Barnes, deputy mayor of London under Johnson.

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Other neighbours heard it too...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...onds-f3wbhcppv

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It’s a non-story dressed up by the gutter press.

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The timing’s a bit fishy for me. The papers have all gone for it because now the story’s out they can’t not, but it was a tip to the Guardian that seems to have broken the story. Somebody somewhere in all this is very politically aware and knew exactly what they were doing.

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Wonder if his new GF is a man beater?


"she sounded really angry. There was a man’s voice too, but he was much calmer and he was telling her to calm down but she was still chucking things about.

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Well he's such delicate flower let's hope not. Maybe his previous 2 wives beat him up too, poor guy..... There was a recording, so that should be interesting....

He's had a barny with his lady, not that unusual. But does he sound like Prime Ministerial material or an immature buffoon of a 55year old lusting after younger ladies? Needs to concentrate on the job if he's going to 'deliver' Brexit.

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Teflon Boris will survive this.

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Iv'e had more cross words than nice ones with my [now x mrs ] over the years but we have always remained friends and i have always been in the right .;)

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Maybe, just maybe, she was having a 'bad experience' because of something she'd taken (or not taken for a while) and Boris was simply putting his foot down saying she had to quit whatever habit she possibly has?

just looking at it from a different angle, probably wrong, but no different to any other wild guess being speculated on ;) :D

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Anything can spark them off ,like when they ask does my bum look big in this,you give an honest reply [your bum looks big in everything because it's big]and off they go ;)

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Maybe, just maybe, you’re making stuff up?

There’s no speculation about the fact there was an argument and the police were called - numerous neighbours heard the argument and saw the police.

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The Snollygoster in chief JohnsonB is the most likely winner. Tory members love him and will forgive his peccadillos.

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Liking the phrase "snollygoster" :)

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Nice to see there were 3 vehicles of plod lying around doing nothing and available to attend a domestic tiff.

Makes you wonder why so many people get stabbed......

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I appreciate that BoJo's domestic altercation may have taken police away from patrolling high-risk areas but this is just one hour on one night we're talking about.