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That pathetic attempt from Oxlade C sums them up.:(

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Nah, just 11 good individuals that have absolutely no cohesion when shoved together. The tactical diversity in this league doesn't help at all. So many different styles of play compared to Germany/Spain etc. in which the top players from the top teams all play the same style of football.

Rashford has been the most shocking player on the pitch thus far though.

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Sadly when you lose to Iceland , struggle against Malta and tonight face a average side and are still found wanting again.:rofl::rofl:

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Another over acclaimed trumpeted English talent like most of the others totally over-rated.

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Dier scores, worth nothing he along with Rooney was one of the only ones I rated at the last Euro's. It's come from a pretty shocking corner though, was that Ox or Rashford?

Again, past his best or not, England are missing a leader in Rooney, someone needs to step up. It's hard to fault some of the players here too, the creativity has been atrocious at times, Henderson is another having a mare.

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Sunday league sides defend better then England.

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Having said all that, what about France last night.:D
To be fair to Rashford he was playing out of position until switched near the end and I have seen him deliberately take a corner like that for Mata to run onto.

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You where saying? :p:

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Top players can play in most positions..

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One swallow does not make a summer as you should know that off by heart by now.;):D

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Speaking of that swallow, how many goals and assists has Lukaku had in the recent round of games for Belgium.

Going by your axiom that suggests you think Messi would be a good central defender then?

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Quality journalism from the MSN web site. :D

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So dele alli with his disgusting one fingered salute proves once again that he is a complete azzhole.

It won't stop the bbc masturbating over his every move because he plays for spuds.:rolleyes::mad:

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How did Belguim come into your equation as we are talking about England.;)

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Sadly money does not teach some footballers to behave in a proper manner.:(

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If you check back to the last time you used that old saying you will know. ;)

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:naughty::D

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Stupidity know no bounds..:(:td:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41188235

https://www.sportinglife.com/footbal...earlier/104117

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It's only stupid if none of the other leagues follow suit.

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And that is the crux of my point as they will not follow suit IMO.

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UEFA want it to happen all across Europe, 17 out of the 18 Bundesliga clubs are in favour, the players union in France is pushing for it, Managers like Allegri at Juventus have been quite vocal in supporting it.

I reckon it's unlikely we'll be the only league doing it by the time next summer comes round.

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Well we shall see but l am far from convinced that all the other leagues will follow.

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It's a good idea imo if all the main nations go for it, however if we're the only ones it could backfire in that you could lose a player to a foreign team and not be able to replace them.

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What's the problem?

A club only sells a player if they want to.

Given the amount of players leaving the prem for the continent I can't see why people are crying :rolleyes:

And clearly the vast majority of prem sides agree that it's a good idea.

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The Spanish have said they're not doing it...

The level of naivety shown by Peter Coats earlier was astounding, his only answer seemed to be to tell clubs they're not doing business after a specific date, completely ignoring things like release fee clauses and certain Spanish clubs refusing to take no for an answer. The timing for it to start next season is ludicrous to, there's only going be a month after the world cup finishes to sign players as I doubt clubs will be doing business before hand in case the players have storming world cups. So imo in short this isn't going to solve the problems of players bring unsettled and may make exorbitant transfers fees go even higher. Also our clubs are putting ourselves at a massive disadvantage to, what if Madrid or PSG sign a world class player and put players up for sale to cover it in the last week of their window , our clubs can't bid for them. The play off winners are going to be disadvantaged as are the team that finishes fourth who won't know if they've qualified for the champions league by the time the window shuts

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Definitely a red card for Mane, very dangerous. :mad:

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I wasn't sure when it happened but when you watch the replays the keeper takes Mané's studs right in the face. I doubt he meant it but I agree, very dangerous.

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According to the latest FIFA rule book he doesn't have to mean it.

Fifa's laws of the game for the 2017-18 season contains the following entry...

"Serious foul play - a tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play."

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l can't argue with that but will we get consistency throughout the season?.

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He did not mean it but as usual some on social media go OTT again.

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Oh look, summer may be over but I have just seen yet another swallow. :p::D

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Perhaps the one you has just seen is that pink one that fly's over every so often.:p:;)

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Draw a fair result, Stoke gave it a real go in the second half, Lukaku missed a sitter but De Gea pulled of a stunning save to even things up.

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Well the title is certainly going to Manchester that is for sure.;):p:

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Not so sure, Chelski have shaken off a dreadful start and look dangerous.

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That's the pessimist in you talking Jim.;)

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What about a clash of heads, send them both off. He's got a three game game ban to come on top of this to, harsh imo

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Not for Mane, he left a United fullback badly injured when he deliberately went clean through on him a couple of years back when still at Southampton and got away with it .:mad:

And it wasn't a clash of heads, it was a boot in the face. ;)

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You cannot base your judgement now on what happened 2 years ago.

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Let's just call it Karma then. :rolleyes:

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l hope when you are talking about players with previous history then don't forget one of your own Jim.:)

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No, I just use the Wenger defence. :D

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But the rule doesn't just cover boots in the face it covers any challenge that endangers an opponent, I'd say head injuries are serious so going by this new rule, send them both of

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How was Manes' head in any danger.:confused:

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Wouldn't matter if it was, there was clearly no brain in there when he behaved recklessly.

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He was doing what any striker would be expected to do, that is go for a 50-50 ball. It wasn't malicious at all as his eyes were fixed on the ball, however i admit it could be seen as reckless with the height of his foot and I'd have been annoyed had it been the other way round. Could easily have been a yellow with a different referee, I've seen worse not get a red but it is what it is. At least he made a public apology to the player.

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Do try and keep up, this is what you bandying those new rules about should mean, besides which that notwithstanding hasn't there already been two similar incidents to Manes already this season which didn't result in red cards and three match bans

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Might be a different story if he hasn't abandoned a certain club though

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Ederson's face after what happened in the Liverpool game :


Ouch :shocked:

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Of course some think he did it recklessly which of course is embittered tribal nonsense as he apologised and that should be the end of it.

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Fixed on the ball apart from when he looked to see where Ederson was. ;)

Anyway he has apologised for being reckless so that's ok now........

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I think Den is right, you do sound a little fixated about your former player ;)

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It's a football discussion :rolleyes:

Although that assault wasn't football. ;)

He wasn't averse to doing things like that earlier in his career either......

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United banging in goals from crosses at Old Trafford.....ah those days :)

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Nice to see both sides winning tonight although sadly for Celtic their task was impossible.

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A functional but laboured display from United against a very limited Basel side, they did try to park the bus but United will have to do much better. Their fans were good, as well organised as you would expect from the Swiss. :)

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And I got see yet another September swallow fly into the net Den.:p:

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Your big worry will come when they arrive in threes and fours Jim.;):p:

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Six goals (swallows ) in six games thus far, I'm beginning to doubt your punditry credentials Den. :D

Not getting email notifications ATM, is it something I've said? :angel:

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My punditry like my opinions should be taken with a pinch of salt.;)

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There must be some gremlins around Jim.

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In my mind, Lukaku hasnt lit up United with his performances so far. Notice I say 'performances' rather than 'results' because in terms of the latter, he's a striker, a striker's job is to score and yep he's on 6 in 6 *however* he has missed a few sitters and hasn't done much more so far than be in the right places at the right times.

But let's not forget he's still getting used to the team and the way it plays so I think his performances will stand out quickly enough. Then again if they don't but he keeps hitting the back of the net I won't have a problem with that ��

But of course as soon as Ibrahimovic is back on the pitch and Lukaku feels what it's like to have that competition in the team I'm looking forward to it bringing the best out of him.

This isn't exactly what I'd call a Fergie Functioning *yet* but it's close and I'm confident for the rest of the season.

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Could pass comment on Liverhamptons performance last night, but I will let Den suffer in silence. :D

Have really only posted to see if I get email notification as it is still not working for me.

I have logged out and back in to see if that helps.

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Are we not a democracy where rational adults can offer their opinions on others sufferings.;):D

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I am not by nature a cruel person and when it comes to European competitions I like to see all English teams doing well, would have liked to have seen Celtic make a better fist of it but feared the worst well before last night. :(

Still having to visit cableforum, are you getting post notifications via email Den?

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Yes like you l like to see all the British sides do well in Europe as l was happy with Liverpool's performance apart from our defence again.

Yes l am still getting post notifications via email Jim.

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Strange, haven't altered any settings, checked spam folders etc, nothing coming through at all from here. Still getting them from other forums etc?

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Hope Everton play like this on Sunday. :)

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I'm sure they won't dissapoint you on that one ;)

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Well if its the Everton of tonight that turns up then Jims beloved will have a stroll.

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After Van Gaal and De Boer perhaps going Dutch is not the best option. :)

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But we were told by all the great wise football sages that they were tactical masters.

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Video appeared earlier showing roughly 20,000 Koln fans on the streets of London despite a ticket allocation of 2900 and there's currently an ongoing issue at the Emirates as it's clear more than 2900 are inside the stadium and are spread out all over the place, thus crowd segregation is an absolute mess, Riot police are doing the best they can.

Game was delayed till 21:05pm but could seriously be abandoned if this can't be resolved, their fans are going on absolutely ridiculous.

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Sounds like a major cock at The Emirates, Cologne fans all over the ground, not just in the away block. :(

Abandon the game and award the points to Arsenal.

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Surely the police would have some prior intelligence gathering that that 20,000 German fans were coming over?.

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Thought I heard someone in the BT studio say it was the first time Cologne have been in European competition for forty years, find that surprising but let's hope it's another forty if this is how they behave.

Just checked, it's 25 years since they played in Europe.

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Very sad indeed :td: as l remember Tony Woodcock playing for them all those years ago.

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I have a season ticket and headed home because of the delay, looks like I made the right decision given what it's like instead the stadium. UEFA need to take action.

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Arsenal have questions to answer too. The club staff that is, not that actual team. A flare in the away section, who'd have thought they'd bring flares? cracking job at the turnstiles.

Empty seats all over for a game I presume was sold out too. I hope they find at least a few members that sold their tickets to Koln fans.

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Yes that too. I think they knew, hence the delay in opening the stadium, but decided going ahead was the least worse option rather than dispersing the fans.

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Amazing when you consider what is spent on players in that that cannot do a proper search and security job on supporters coming into the stadium.

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I absolutely hope this turns into a 5-1 turnaround and they go home crying.

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It's mostly individual lazy employees, those higher up can't be blamed. I'll get stopped for a can of coke at Newcastle and my mate behind me will just cosy on through with his. Although I work in the industry I was always told it was to stop you throwing it at players and safety reasons and never really found out why because you can purchase bottles inside which weigh the same if not more...

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They take the cap off bottles inside stadiums to make it harder to throw

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TIL, it's been ages since I purchased one in the ground to realise this. Although I've spent a lot of time in hospitality areas for work and you they just have it buffet layout up there and you just grab any drinks from the fridge as it's unlikely Peter Beardsley is going to be throwing a bottle.

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Yeah this is mostly concerts and football games. I've been to festivals and theatre shows where they don't do this. Although now I think about it the times I've purchased cans of beer at a festival they did insist on opening it first.

You can't even buy alcohol at UEFA competitions, completely dry inside the stadium.

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Not good news, hope he is found safe.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41280150

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Indeed Jim but l do fear for him sadly.

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Found safe and well in Liverpool.:)

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Praise be to god for that.:)

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Nice to see Palace were beaten again today.

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I'm sure Roy will soon get them into shape (for the championship). :erm:

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Well if you appoint a failure its inevitable where they will be heading Dave,

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Newcastle 4th, City 6-0 Watford. Liverpool have 35 shots and score 1. Welcome back league.

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Lets hope Newcastle keep Rafa as only a fool would let him go.

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When Burnley looked at their opening away games and saw Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool first up I bet they didn't expect to take five points from them. My mate Eddie will be chuffed.:)

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Yep not a side to underestimate Jim away from home.

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Well he did not last long.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41296238

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We might as well not do a overhead kick in football anymore.:(:td:

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It's rapidly becoming a non contact sport. The Leeds of the 70's or Wimbledon of the 80's would have their entire teams banned under current guidelines. :confused:

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Yes its taking a lot out of the game IMO Dave with overzealous refs just raring to get out their cards.

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Absolutely Den but unfortunately with no real consistency. :(

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Man City will win the title as Man Utd show their title limitations today.

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They won 4-0 Den ;)

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Apart from the first goal it was a very disjointed display today. Worth the entry fee to see that goal though, and although he missed a sitter the Belgian swallow scores his 7th in seven. 😉

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4-0 flatters them even if it upsets the god....;)

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Well it was 2 yards out..;)

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We weren't great for over half of the match but we'd have drawn that 0-0 last season. I'm not going to complain if we play badly and still win like that.

Everton are going to end up in a relegation battle if they don't sort out their striker situation. £150m spent and they didn't replace Lukaku, January is going to be an expensive month for them.

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Showing his instincts as a born goal scorer, in the right place at the right time. :p:

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I'm going to hold off until at least Christmas before being certain of this but it does feel like the fear factor is returning to United. Certainly there is an air of confidence around the place that LVG could never create and Moyes had never heard of.

Wasn't impressed with Lukaku's celebration though, pretty certain Rooney wouldn't have been so disrespectful.

Speaking of Rooney, again it seems United play better without him on the team....

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Hmm, I heard one wag say that United were a much better team without Rooney on the pitch, harsh but probably true.;)

TBH I much prefer to see a striker celebrate his goals, can't do with this mock modesty all the time.

A swift edit there Russ, in fact United are the only Premiership team that Rooney has not scored against.