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What you're saying makes me quite optimistic, Stephen. I hope it's going to be great. We all need a good Star Trek series in our lives, let's be honest.

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I just hope the Picard series will be as good as I'm hoping.

But yes they appear to be getting Discovery on the right path.

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The opening credits and theme are still crap.

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There are elements of the theme and credits I do like but it's mainly the sequence that isn't right as it's so far removed from every other Trek show.

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Exactly.

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The same thing was said about Enterprise.

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This is true, although I do like the Enterprise theme and credits are still similar to others in terms of exploration and the space theme. Disco just went a step too far with the modern loo for the sequence.

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This is why I like the Netflix skip intro option. Does anyone know if the Picard and Series two of Star Treck Discovery will be shown on Netflix over here?

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Discovery season 2 starts weekly on the 18th January.

Not sure about the Picard series.

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Thanks, looking forward to it.Hopefully we'll get Picard as well.

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Bump....season 2 now on the go...

Not a bad start

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yeah I really like it. I thought the special effects and space scenes were superb and I just wish this kind of standard was around for TNG because everything looks so real. I really like Captain Pike as well, is more of a laid back Captain Archer style Captain.

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Liking the show but the Klingons bore me.

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funny you should say that because I thought last week's ep was weak story wise and I missed the Klingon story arc from season 1. This week's looks even worse and I need them to sink their teeth into something.

In terms of my realism factor I would like to see more of the universe. Having this side story with Spock is a perfect opportunity for them to visit a Starbase, resupply, see the crew do some R&R etc and make the universe more believable.

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I've been loving the second season so far. Some big changes have started to take place and bring it more in line with TOS and other Trek series.

IE Ep 2 - New Eden felt like a very ToS story. Typical landing party trek ep.

Episode 4 - They were on their way to Spock and got trapped by an alien entity, as well as the spore MaySpore sub plot made it feel like a TNG episode.

They are also making attempts to close down the spore network and remove the Spore Drive as well as taking out the Holo comm system from Enterprise which will go back to ToS again.

I feel that the change to the Klingons has also been good, gicing them hair back and uniting the houses, creating proper classic Klingon ships(D7)

New Show runneres have clearly made huge changes to get back on track with fans,

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Unless of course CBS decides to screw things up.

https://filmdaily.co/news/cbs-plans-...ket-star-trek/

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This is a really good summary of the current state of play around the reason for the differences between Discovery (and the recent films) and the older shows and films. However it's almost an hour long, so be prepared!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojtX_Oz4WsU

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All the shows announced thus far do sound good. I am happy to see Trek back on screens though.

I think I did list all the shows in a previous post.

EDIT: I didn't must have been on another forum.

There is

The Picard Show
Adult animated show
Animated Short Treks
Section 31 show

They are the ones I know off the top of my head.

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This week’s Discovery featured a violation of the prime directive James T Kirk himself would have been proud of. Top viewing. :D

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Well I think when it comes to a race or population being in trouble, then breaking the rules slightly is valid ;)

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Picard would never have intervened in those circumstances. We’d have just got a long, impassioned speech about non-interference. Remember at the point they first decided to broadcast to the planet nobody was in danger. It was regime change on a global scale, because Pike decided he didn’t like the way they did things down there. Kirk would have done exactly the same.

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yeah, key things like the prime directive which we are all too familiar with and is establish lore are the kind of things which absolutely kill my realism factor. The same thing happened when they went down to that churchy planet a couple of weeks in search of the red angel. I am letting it go because of how early the series is set and the Federation are still finding their feet. It is missions like this which Starfleet will reflect on, decide whether it was the right of wrong thing to do and then come up with the rules and prime directive in the future.

Last weeks episode was my favourite so far this season. When I saw the short for it I was banging my head against the wall when Georgiou said to Saru "you can come with me but if you do we can never come back to this planet" and I was like "well you obviously will do". I am happy for the reason and justification for it. They went because of the red angel and even then they still tried to stick to the rules and avoid any interaction and changing the culture and it is Saru's medical condition which did that. I actually like the character he is turning in to. In season 1 he was a wet nelly and I thought it was a joke he was acting captain and Burnham as a crewman had to keep telling him what to do. Pike is my favourite character atm. I love how he has had the training and knows the rules but he leads less by rules and directives and more cowboyish and what he thinks is the best thing to do. It is like the best of both worlds.

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They’re indicating the difference by referring to it as “General Order One” rather than the Prime Directive, as if the policy was re-stated and strengthened at some later date.

There’s a throwaway line somewhere in DS9 ... possibly in the 30th anniversary tribble episode, and possibly spoken by Dax ... which refers to the cavalier attitudes of ships captains in this era. I actually think they’re being rather more faithful to established Trek lore than it might first appear.

And since the show is now being run by people who actually understand what Star Trek is, I tend to put any glaring nonsense down to stuff bequeathed them by Fuller etc. which they’re still forced to work with.

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And he was forced into changes by the current Star Trek licence, same as the Kelvin timeline films were.

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I have to admit, while I like most of the characters in Discovery season 1, season 1 didn't feel much like Star Trek to me. They changed too much, particularly the Spore drive and the bald Klingons. The Spore drive would have been believable if, rather than pointing out how much faster it is than Warp, they explained why, in the existing series (TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager anyway), Starfleet would go back to the apparently inferior Warp technology.

it also lost the sense of fun that all the previous Star Trek series had.

Season 2 has bought the fun back, and at least attempted to explain why the spore drive isn't used in other series.

I am thankful, however, for Series 1 being the way it was. I enjoyed it, but had it had more of a sense of fun, I might not have looked at Seth McFarlane's series "The Orville", which I am thoroughly enjoying.

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yup, and just like the changes with the Klingons and holographic displays, it all adds to my realism factor because if it doesn't make sense then I cant believe it is real and it spoils it for me.

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Season 3 confirmed

https://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/star...-season-3-news

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nice, I like it when stuff like this happens because it lets them plan way in advance and gives them to time to write great stories and get everything moving in the background which they need to make it happen.

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1551460302

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Half bad news although most of us knew about it anyway.

I knew they were only supposed to be in it for one season but Anson Mount has proved to be very popular and I think some of us were hoping he would somehow find a way to stay on.

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That's not a surprise though.

To fit in with the TOS timeline he would have to go back to the Enterprise.

This season has been outstanding so far.

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Yeah I think he has been great and it is a shame in a way he wasn't introduced as another unknown random Starfleet Captain so he could stay without disrupting canon.

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The very last ever episode has now come to an end and wow they must have blown a hell of a budget on it.

It's a shame really I felt like it was just starting to warm up but I don't think there is anywhere to go from this one for a season 4 not that season 4 is mentioned I think they pretty much ended the show on this final.

Shame about the new star trek movie being binned as well

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I think you have got your wires crossed somewhere dude because that was the finale to season 2 and it has been renewed for a 3rd season so there is definitely going to be another 13 eps or so.

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Not only is there to be a season 3, there is also a Section 31 spin off show after season 3.

The season 2 finale was really good and I loved what they did with it.

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Absolutely loved it, but to be honest I’d much rather be aboard Enterprise than Discovery next season.

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Haha that was pretty dumb I had it in my head I was on season 3...I had been awake like 20 hours though when I posted

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I wonder how they will reconcile Season 3 (where Discovery has gone) with the Section 31 series (which will be filmed after Season 3) considering Captain Georgiou is on the Discovery?

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I have a feeling that by the end of Season 3, The Discovery or at least a few crew members will be back in their correct time.

Then again the Section 31 show is currently at story writing phase and so far has not actually been picked up for a full season order.

I loved the finale though.

Alex Kurtzman Confirms ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Season 3 Destination
https://trekmovie.com/2019/04/19/ale...n-pike-series/
Thats good, setting the show in the 33rd Century means they have total freedom on who and what they encounter and don't have to fit in with historical canon.

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I don't understand how that is going to work though, surely they are going to be at a massive technological disadvantage with everything they come across?
When I saw how it ended I was hoping they were doing a reboot, losing Discovery in the future and the next season was going to be all about the Enterprise with Pike et al. This season of Discovery hasn't done anything for me at all. It is too unrealistically Burnham-focused and the other characters are just hollow annoyances. It did my nut in that no matter how pressed for time they were and how dire the situation, we can always take a timeout for a two minute gay drama. I laughed hysterically at 20:00 in episode 13.
The battle scene in the finale was very impressive but there were many things which killed my realism factor. If you know the universe is about to end and everything hangs in the balance wtf does the head of Klingon empire only bring one ship and not the entire fleet and why didn't they tell Starfleet so Starfleet could send some ships? It doesn't make sense that two starships could hold off against all those Section 31 ships for so long and I would like to have seen more ships involved to make it more realistic.

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Only for a short while. With the crew they have am sure they could easily upgrade the systems.

If there was ever to be a spin off it would be very short lived due to the fate of Pike. However I think the Enterprise and it's crew have been explored enough. As good as Anson Mount was in the role.

Gay drama? Starfleet officers are people too, and have personal lives. Why shouldn't a gay couple feature. Other Trek series have always featured the personal and love life's of the crew.

How many times in other Trek Shows and movies did the Enterprise end up on its own and out gunned yet always pulled off a win. There was a couple of Klingon ship's in the battle in the Disco finale. When there is a Sci-fi show set hundreds of years in the future I can't possibly say I have ever committed to realism. It's the unrealistic factor the lets me suspend believe and feel involved.

I personally thought this season was fantastic and a massive improvement over the first one. So many improvements, but I think they were getting fed up with fans saying they were breaking or ruining canon, so they started to fix and tidy things up and took the ship to the far future so they did not have any canon or events/characters/races they could or couldn't use. It gives them free reign to do anything they want.

I feel that's the correct way to go.

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How do you feel about time crystals?

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To me, they are no more unbelievable than the various time travel methods in ST:TOS.

They used a black hole in Assignment Earth and Tomorrow Is Yesterday, it was a "time portal" in All Our Yesterdays, another "time portal" in The City On The Edge Of Forever, a space/time warp in The Naked Time, and in ST4:The Voyage Home, a slingshot manoeuvre around the Sun.

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There was also a Borg temporal vortex in First Contact. It's just a plot device to enable time travel. As Hugh stated Trek has had many methods used in other series. All as unrealistic as the next. No different to a Delorean with a flux capacitor reaching 88mph.

Doesn't make them any less enjoyable.

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we've never heard of time crystals though so as with the spore drive, if they exist in the past why aren't they in the future? Rather than them conveniently making something up which has never existed if they need to time travel I would prefer them to use something more science and established in scifi lore and do something like a slingshot round the sun.

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https://comicbook.com/startrek/2019/...generation-ri/

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Time crystals are a thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_crystal

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Who says they don't exist. Maybe the stories just didnt require them ;) so they never needed to be mentioned.

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We never heard of Q before TNG either.

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Just a heads up to those who don't subscribe to Netflix that the first series of Star Trek Discovery will be on E4 from Sunday the 15th of December.

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Season 3 teaser

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I don't think I can even be bothered to watch season 3 now that I have got Picard. There are too many things in it which annoy me and they outweigh the few good things about it.

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When season 2 of Discovery finished everyone was talking about how amazing Pike was and how he needed to stay in Discovery so we can see his continued adventures. The feedback must have been overwhelming because they have decided to make a spin-off series with Pike, No 1 and Spock in. I am laughing as I type this because I think it is going to be so popular that it is going to beat Discovery in the ratings.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/...pinoff-series/

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Star Trek: Discovery Returns on October 15.:)

https://intl.startrek.com/news/star-...rns-october-15

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I can't be arsed with Discovery anymore. They did well to introduce more characters last season but it only highlighted how week and pointless the main cast is. The universe revolves about Burnham and her dopey officer cadet with a side of gay drama of the week. I think I read somewhere at the beginning of this year (and I am sure I posted it here) that they are "doubling down" on the gayness this season. We dont need it rammed in our face at every opportunity :rolleyes: "Hello Klingons, can you hold off your attack for a few mins please, we are in the middle of a gay toothbrushing drama. Come back in 5 mins and we'll be good to go. Don't damage the engines too much because in 20 mins we'll be having another gay drama in engineering and won't have time to repair anything. In fact don't do anything at all just yet because I can't run my own ship. I have got a stupid officer cadet who i cant get rid of constantly breaking protocol and playing dumb on my bridge as well".

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Nobody seemed to object when Kirk kept snogging all the alien girls - that wasn't seen as "a side of straight drama"...

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Excellent!

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I have never seen the original series, only the movies.

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:Yikes:

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I am not that old ;)

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You don't have to be that old to watch what is still a very fine series.;)

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Nor am I ;)

I’ve only seen TOS because it was repeated endlessly on BBC2 throughout the 1980s. These days however it’s all on Netflix. Go on, knock yourself out. :D

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I've seen all of Star Trek twice, and I'm only 30. Age means nothing. Although I didn't think too highly of TOS.

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I have seen TNG, DS9 and Voyager tonnes of times and love watching them over and over again. I love all the movies as well and gladly rewatch them. TOS has never appealed to me though and as iconic as the characters are, some of the sets, acting and special effects make me cringe. I have caught the odd episode but I don't think I could bring myself to watch the whole series.

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I don't blame you there. I watch it as part of the experience. It is certainly overrated IMO, although there is some episodes that are worth a watch. Space Seed being one of them.

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Has to be The Trouble With Tribbles, and the way they tied it in to DS9.

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In which respects do you consider it overrated?

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There are only three episodes I can remember and they are the tribbles, the one where they encounter the romulans for the first time in a fuzzy triangular ship and one where they have to go down to a planet to help people who are mysteriously dying. I think it was something to do with a mining operation and animals being released from subterranean caverns. They looked like slugs with a volcanic rock outer shell.

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People always go on about acting, stories and all that saying how amazing it is. It could be an age thing but I just can't get into it.

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It was of its time, and was advanced (for its time) in a number of ways.

However, to someone not of that time, it can appear stilted and quite quaint (because so many of the things it was "first" on, have been done so many times since).

It’s like (imho) the love of a classic car - you either love it, with all its faults/quirks/outdated technology, or you think "what’s all the fuss about?".

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As Hugh said.

You really have to see it in its own context. Nothing made in the mid 1960s is going to stand up to today’s standards. The best tv series today are technically better in many respects than what was made for cinema only a few years ago.

The original Star Trek series took a basic sci fi idea that has been done repeatedly in American film and tv but treated it in a radically new way. It made extremely bold cultural moves by putting a black woman in the regular cast, a Russian in charge of the ship’s operations and an angry southern racist in the sick bay who treats Uhura with equanimity and whose regular jibes aimed at his green blooded, pointy eared superior officer are always ineffective and increasingly ridiculous. It did this week in, week out, rarely treating it as a spectacle or making any of it the main subject of discourse. This is simply the future as Roddenberry saw it. His storytelling instead focused on issues like the rise of Nazism (Patterns of Force), the cold horror of submarine warfare (Balance of Terror, which also had a clever and important message against the othering of one’s enemy), and the sheer absurdity of slavery (The Gamesters of Triskelion).

If you want your tv to do your thinking for you then any old show will be difficult viewing, but if you can make the leap to treating classic shows as cultural artefacts and viewing them for what they were when they were made, then stuff like Star Trek is time well spent.

I’d venture to suggest that 50 years from now, TOS will still have a towering reputation, whereas Discovery, despite its state of the art production, will be a mere footnote ...

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I think that has already happened now that Picard has been released

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This is the only source I can find atm. The new season 3 trailer starts at 38 seconds but I think I have linked the thumbnail to it takes you to the right place. Fingers crossed :)



Click the link below if you want to go straight to the trailler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=TASfgIN4ZXA

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I gad a link to the trailer but cos got it blocked

I'm sensing s very different tone and feel in this trailer compared to the last one

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Teaser from Discovery Season 3 - skip to 1:35 to miss the ComicCon chatter.

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I am not even going to bother with this season. Last season did my head in anyway for various reasons and they said they are doubling down on the gayness this season which is just going to make it even more in your face annoying. Until they get rid of stupid Tilly it is never going to feel like Star Trek.

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‘The gayness"...

Some people had the same reaction when Kirk and Uhura kissed in ST;TOS.

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Awww. I think Tilly is great.

I can't wait for the season to start.

Lower Decks turned out to be the best Trek I've seen in a long time. Honouring canon so much better than anything else.

I don't believe they are doubling down on anything. People just need to relax and enjoy, not focus on trivial things and being offended by different races and cultures. Its so old fashioned and outdated.

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Ramming lgbtqia+ bla bla bla down your throat every week

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Featuring a game character or characters isn't what I'd call ramming it down your throat.

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I assume you mean Gay, not Game. :angel:

For me, the issue is not gay characters as such.
What bugs me is the way they are so often unrealistically "forced" into shows.

Its like every show now requires at least one obligitory gay lead character, and some try to make as much fuss about it as they can.
Some shows do it really well, so it just seems naturally part of the show, and you dont give it a second thought - thats how it should be.
Others (Batwoman & Supergirl spring to mind) just seem hell bent of ramming into the show every week, like one of those loud American preachers. :rolleyes:

I must admit, I didnt think Discovery actually over did it that much.

Oh and +1 here for being a fan of Tilly. :)

(and a Fan of Lower Decks)

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I thought Tilly was great and also loved last season.

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:rolleyes:

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Probably not the turn of phrase I would have used.

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Whilst I don't agree with him, I think I know the point he's trying to make. Season 3 is introducing 2/3 new characters who fit into LGBTQ+. I'm just looking forward to seeing what they do with the story being in the future.

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I thought the first episode was great. The future seems really screwed up.

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Season 4 begins production November 2nd 2020.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1602885890

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Great episode. I'm sure someone will moan about 2 black leads and the various green and blue characters 😂

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Not me, I am not watching it. It doesn't feel like Star Trek. You have got a senior staff which is just a bunch of wet nellys and you wouldn't think have been to Starfleet Academy. The universe seems to revolve around one person every episode has to have a gay drama of the week. It isn't Star Trek and that is why when Pike & co came into it it felt like a breath of fresh air and revitalised the series. It will be interesting to see if ratings fall this season and the series gets cancelled like the DV series.

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No gayness this week, especially for you...

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Whats wrong with a 'bit of gay'

The flintstones were having a gay old time every week. No one complained.

Its going to feel a bit different as we are 980 years in the future. I feel that once Discovery reappears then we will get back to more Trek feeling.

Its still good and enjoyable. Not sure why you have a problem with 'gayness'

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It won't be getting cancelled as Season 4 starts production next month.

Also we knew before the show started that it would be different as it was confirmed early on that the show would focus on one main character and not a set of crew members.

I also wouldn't at all say there has been a 'gay' drama every episode. Think you are inventing things that aren't there.

Go watch Lower Decks, you might enjoy that. Also you'll be happy then that Pike is getting his own spin off show.

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Ummm, just two posts above yours ...... :)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=387


Btw, what is the "DV" series ?

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What platform is it on?

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Netflix

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Watched it last night and really enjoyed it. I only wish they’d thought of doing a far-future series from the outset rather than crapping all over TOS continuity and then having to write their way out of an avoidable mess. That said, they did a good repair job last season and they have alighted on the far-future idea, even though they have done so as a way or explaining away the TOS and NexGen era’s total ignorance of all things Discovery.

I was pleasantly surprised by the final twist this week. Save the Space Whale (or whatever it was) was very NexGen. Also loved seeing one of Morn’s distant descendants show up. Little continuity nods like that show that the showrunners know there’s a fan base out there whose opinion and enjoyment of the thing does actually count for something.

If played well, a committed starfleet crew dealing with the death of the federation could make for genuinely compelling storytelling.

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Ooh, sound, will watch it tonight.

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Old flag vs 3148 flag...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...8&d=1602965869 https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1602965999

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Which means they’ve either given continuity the middle finger again, or they’re dropping clever hints about the recent history of the federation.

For now I’m willing to hope it’s the latter.

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Me too...

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It was ok.

I thought the sequence In the trading post was very Guardians of the Galaxyesque.

To early to form an opinion on where it’s going.