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"It's the foreigners fault" cried Nigel "That Greenie is from Oz That Sturgeon's a fish out of water And Dave's not the man he was" "It's the Tories fault" shouted Ed But the Welshie blamed Old Nick Cleggie just said "I'm sorry" They all got on my wick |
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Made up story by the Torygraph? https://twitter.com/severincarrell/s...13809633239040 https://twitter.com/Pmacgiollabhain/...16170531405824 |
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This was an off-the-cuff comment by Wee Nippy, either on the way on or the way out of the meeting room. The Scottish "government" has denied this in carefully worded terms. The French ambassador has no obligations to the British public or our political conventions so is free to deny at will anyway. You can be absolutely confident that this actually happened, not least because a weak Tory government opposed by a strong SNP contingent is exactly what everyone knows is the best scenario for the Nats and their only real reason for existence, namely to break Scotland away from the UK. Playing nicely with a Labour government doesn't serve that purpose. Heroically fighting Scotland's corner against the evil (English) Tories does. |
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Just because that may be the best scenario for the Nats does not mean that the words were actually spoken by the FM. It really is very shoddy journalism from an increasingly shoddy rag. |
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The issue here is one of credibility - of all those involved, and of the story itself.
The story, even without any evidence at all, is entirely plausible, because it simply reflects the position everybody knows the SNP leadership holds in private. The mechanism by which the story was reported, via several steps of diplomatic whispering, is, again, plausible. It is simply how the game is played. Everyone involved in diplomacy knows this. Sturgeon apparently didn't, and didn't understand the implications of her position as merely chief executive of a devolved administration. The SNP may like to lord it up and pretend they're running a government, but the only people they are deceiving are themselves. Foreign diplomats show courtesy where it is due, and that is to the actual government whose territory they are on, not regional politicians. Ultimately there are never going to be any documents published, and nobody has lied to parliament so there will be no inquiry and no censure. People who lean heavily to one side of the divide or other will believe their own side. A lot of people in the middle will look at this and make their own minds up. I predict that a lot of people will accept that this is true, simply because we all already know it is. And that Labour in Scotland will not easily allow this to go away. |
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The problem is that anyone minded to give the SNP the benefit of the doubt have been giving more than enough reason to be so. This is weak evidence. So this doesn't help the unionist cause at all. Last night I was pretty hopeful that this would put a dent in the SNP surge but now there is little to go on and if anything it will only increase the fundamentalist zeal of their supporters. |
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Farage was baiting them into criticising him so that he can play the politically correct persecution card. He does this all the time. He says something that skirts with racism, xenophobia or simply outright ignorance but is usually wise enough to stay just on the right side of the line. Everyone knows the implication and undertones of what he is saying but, on the face of it, it's reasonable. Remember when he said the children of migrants should be counted as migrants too? Not entirely unreasonable if you're talking about the impact of migration, it's certainly not obviously racist, but it's never how these things are measured and the full implication of it is that someone born here is considered as a migrant. This is the same. The figure he quoted was misleading and the 'not born here' includes plenty of people who have been here their whole lives, schooled here, worked here and are British citizens. Of course he doesn't care. That isn't the point. The point was the reaction he wanted from Cameron/Miliband. They attack him for the remark and he whines that it's true and UKIPers cry Political correctness. ---------- Post added at 11:54 ---------- Previous post was at 11:22 ---------- Quote:
As Ashdown has said they're coming to burn the place down but no one is paying attention or doing anything about it. :( |
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Got polling cards yesterday - so I'm thinking about it all the more now. Still don't know who I despise the least though.
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It certainly does DenPhone, but who ever we pick can they do a better job in the next five years than this lot that are in power now! I can see another ten years of austerity measures being implemented.
Question to ask do we need a change in the British Political establishment. Do I stick to what I know or do I want a radical change perhaps.:confused: |
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The alternative to austerity (cuts) is more/higher taxes and/or more borrowing.:erm: Both are likely to be troublesome to sections of the electorate. Borrowing is mortgaging your children's future whilst I'm sure you'd welcome higher taxes so long as you're not the one who has to pay them.
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Borrowing on most current expenditure is mortgaging the future, borrowing for capital expenditure to improve productivity is investment in the future. |
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I want to know why in the South East of England I'm getting party political broadcast for parties I cannot vote for even if I did.
Namely SNP, Plaid Cymru. You can get regional News, so why not political rubbish. |
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To be honest, l wish Nicola Sturgeon was an MP down here in London. I would certainly vote for her. The way she had a go at Cameron was the highlight for me.
Apart from her being tasty, and that bird from Plaid Cymru, l think the election will be good for the country. At last we have a fight on our hands - I can see Cameron losing and it being SNP/Labour coalition - More of Nicola please |
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You can take her from Scotland anytime, I cannot stand her or her policy to break up the United Kingdom
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What about her wanting the nasty party to win shocking
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But she is willing to support the ******* party on a case by case basis.....
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I see you still haven't decided if you're a strong Labour supporter or not. Almost all SNP gains in Scotland will be at the expense of Labour. Hoping for that outcome is a pretty odd way of showing support for the party you claim to love. |
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If Labour get in next we can expect to see another one of these in 5 years time.
The famous there is no money left note. |
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I can't wait to see Daves face when he has to hand the keys in. |
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According to their spending plans they need to find an extra £3,000 per household over the next 5 years. They've ruled out VAT and Income tax RATE changes but you can bet they'll pick your pockets for it in the same way they did last time. Look forward to the return of the duty escalators and new stealth taxes. :( |
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The main casualties of this would likely end up being the south west and north of England, both of whom get nothing beyond part of the bill and don't yet have the strong private sector the south east and London have. |
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Give them the fiscal independence they so want and then let the SNP explain to the Scots why they want to jack their taxes up by 10% across the board :) |
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I see that ******* Blier has come out from under his stone today to spin another good yarn. :mad:
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This is impressive.
So many of the things that people may find repulsive about this general election campaign in a single article. Tony Blair, the wannabe ruler of Europe, dancing to the EU tune while simultaneously refusing to give unqualified support to Ed Milliband because he, like the rest of us, knows that Ed is abysmal. The Liberal Democrats fear mongering about how the Tories would be in hock to a UKIP that will get at most half a dozen seats, but the solution is of course to ensure that the Liberal Democrats get enough MPs to form part of a coalition. The Conservatives making it very clear what a waste of time their promise of a referendum is given they already say that they want the UK to remain in a 'reformed' EU leaving, exactly as Douglas Carswell said, masses of wiggle room for cosmetic changes to the relationship they can claim are reform enough to do what Cameron clearly has always wanted and campaign for an 'in' vote. Beyond comedy. Beyond farce. Purely depressing. I am 36 years old, the first general election I could vote in I was 18, and I have never wanted to spoil the ballot so strongly. |
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I do not think Blair will help the Labour in any way. He should have stayed out of it,
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There will still be a vote and you will still have the opportunity to vote to leave. It's been clear the strategy from the Government is to win concessions, cosmetic or otherwise, from the EU and then campaign for it. This is why Cameron was so adamant that the negotiation happens before the vote. The polls suggest that currently the Stay/Leave vote is close - staying is marginally ahead - but with a 'renegotiation' the stay vote is much higher. That's politics for you. However before anyone gets too indignant about it let's remember that this is also the reason Euroskeptics wanted a referendum now. They want one before any negotiation can take place and concessions, cosmetic or otherwise, can be granted and weaken their campaign. Ideally whilst Europe remains in turmoil too. Everyone wants the political environment to be favourable to their cause when and if the referendum happens whichever side of the issue they fall into. It isn't limited to Cameron. The other thing we can be sure of is that the Pro-EU side will label any concessions as meaningful and a victory whilst the Anti-EU side will label them cosmetic. Very few of them will likely have bothered to look either way. |
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I think she is very tasty, and she can come down here anytime she likes.
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Does everyone know that Tony Blair has now joined the trail with Ed
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He has joined the campaign Arthur but one cannot see them both sharing the same soapbox.
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That could well be the final nail for Miliband. Having Blair endorse something nowadays is not going to win votes from anyone but the absolute hardcore Labour voters.
Shame really, as I attended a primary school with 2 of Blair's kids before and just after becoming leader, and as such admired him. Sadly, I finally realised what a fool he was in 2003 after the Iraq war began. |
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but a munta will always find another munter attractive. me and you have to have a few drinks before. anyway. Vote Labour and fix the mess that Dave has done in the last five years. |
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Got to share this picture from the Times today.
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Just sent the local Labour guy away from my front door with a few choice words that included words like " there is not a clucking chance that i will vote for your lot". :LOL:
So glad i took this week off work it gave me the chance to meet him. :) |
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Looks my football team owner will be selling up and be moving to Yank land (were the poor stay poor and the rich get richer) if Ed introduces the non-Dom tax law (good on him).
Well done Tony Blair (the best Priminster the Tory's never had) for supporting Ed. |
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The Labour candidate for Stevenage keeps going on about knocking on doors in Stevenage, yet when I called her out on Twitter for not visiting my street she swore she did. Joker.
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45% or 50% of nothing is still nothing. |
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Not to forget the 100's of thousands of civilians that also paid the ultimate price for his arrogance.
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Not to the mention the British lives lost in Afganistan for what!
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Where did you get the figure of £100,000 and how much will that be made for by the increased revenue? One of the problems is that it doesn't encourage investment as that will be taxed at UK rates. All it encourages is keeping your assets abroad in tax havens. It's probably why this particular tax break hasn't caught on in many other places in the world. |
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Did Dave have secret talks with Bush about what was really going on?...
Bliar presided over what happened. He made the decisions, he told the porkies and he should pay a price. Instead we have him jetting off around the globe making 'peace' in inverse proportion to money. ****! |
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BTW Damien the £100,000 amount was being bandied about on R4 this morning but it might only apply to the super rich. Sub-millionairs pay less, down to £30,000 I'm given to believe. |
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Did a poll to find who I should be voting for. UKIP first, Labour second and Liberals third. I'd rather abstain than vote for any of those parties. The real shame about the whole electoral system is that you cannot mix and match policies from all parties.
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If the Tory's were in power during 2nd Gulf war, would they not have done the same as Tony Blairs decision/or lies. Would not the Tory's have bottom kissed George Bush. The think the outcome would have been the same. Still it got rid of a Tyrant who probably would have gone onto WMD aquisition.
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Nigel Farage suffers further poll woe as survey finds Ukip voters love Brussels sprouts.:D
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After the Non-Doms, some other ideas how Labour can collect more tax (some of them I would support).
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A least my £millions stashed away in bitcoins are beyond their reach. :D
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Was thinking last night about the sort of MP I would want.
1)Would broadly agree with my general outlook and wouldn't stand for policies that would directly penalise my life choices (try to be fairly neutral in wording) 2)Doesn't stand for a party that I can't support 3)Would stand up for their principles even when the party or even the country disagrees but can possibly be convinced otherwise 4)Would stand up for their constituency even against their party. 5)Would remember that they are elected to serve. 6)Would promote what they do stand for not just oppose what "the others" do. Just a few, these sound so much better in my own head. |
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Just what you would expect from the Tory Times.
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Bit of a grey area, I know for some time now people making money on E bay or 'micro payments' on Pay pal would only escape notice for so long, it takes them a while, but eventually the Govt gets wise to these things.
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People won't be filling tax returns on old stuff they sold off on eBay. I imagine the law would be looking at people doing full time trading via these services. That said if you're selling at a loss then it's not capital gains at all. |
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I will join in on this bit. Many members may forget that several months ago, many Tv stars and so called comics were stung by a company that put there money into oversea's companies to avoid paying large amounts of tax.
Well this new idea by Labour will put money back into the UK. I work, pay taxes and therefore so should other people. wether they have 3 beds or 12 beds. They should pay what we are paying. If you are a multi millionaire then you should pay more tax. Its like that so called singer Glass, saying that she wont pay the Mansion Tax - WHY, if she lives in a five or six bed mansion then why wont she pay the Mansion Tax. Its ok for the Tories to make us pay the Bedroom Tax as we have a 'spare room' then why shouldn't millionairse pay the Mansion Tax. There is a house near me in Twickenham - it has recently sold for FIVE MILLION quid, and has FIVE bedrooms. The person who bought this, probably earns more in a minute, then we do in a week |
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Arthur, you do realise the evil Tories (always on the side of the rich) raised Stamp Duty on that type of house from 7% to 12% (and it was 5% under Labour), don't you?
So the Stamp Duty on the £5,000,000 house is £513,750, rather than the approx. £250,000 under the previous Labour administration - doesn't seem to support your premise.... |
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It's starting to slip away from the Tories. Several polls today all showing the same movement:
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If this goes into the Election then Labour would be close to a Majority even with their problems in Scotland. Certainly enough to do a coalition with the Liberal Democrats and more than enough with the SNP. The Conservatives need to do something to change the momentum. They're more high rated on the economy and yet their still losing. Miliband is catching up in the personal ratings on Cameron, the debates are helping him, but the Tories should still be clear ahead. Their hope seems to be that people will turn off Miliband at the last moment and UKIP's vote will collapse in favour of the Tories but the former is going to be unlikely if Miliband's personal ratings keep improving. |
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The Tories need to do less of the negative personal campaigning and more of why should people vote for them because at the moment their campaign is faltering quite a bit.
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I've already had enough to the point I don't know if I can be arsed to vote.
The idiot torys still blaming Labour 5 years later. The bimbo in charge of the SNP who still wants to break the union despite most Scots not wanting to. |
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It has now started to be a slanging match between Labour and The Tories.
Instead of Cameron and co doing an election campaign with the big boys, instead they are slagging off a man, who won the vote over his brother. We have Osborne saying what Labour done damage when they were in power. He forges that every Tory government that has been in power, has ripped this country to bits, and it has cost money, to put things back on the trail for recover. Look at Thatcher, she tore everything up, and gave it to the rich. And demolished the most talg about thing - the NHS. and education etc etc. Cameron has done exactly the same. Soon as they got into power. They caused riots with students - putting up fee's so that students would be out priced and in debt. Then Universal Credit, Bedroom Tax etc etc. IF Cameron had axed the Bedroom Tax, they may have had a chance. But then they don't care - do they |
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