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It could be seen as you don't care.

do you care?

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How could it be seen that way when I haven't said that I "don't care"?

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That's like saying how could it be seen that I fancy my sister. when I haven't actually told her or anyone that I fancy her.

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Exactly, and you'd be right to question why someone had suggested that you did fancy her.

Anyway it's not a case of me caring or not caring, I 'nothing' it. I don't have a view on the situation simply because I don't see it as bad as some people make out.

The fact is some people are saying Muslims are "taking over" the country when it's clear that they're not. Some areas have a higher than average Islamic population (I used to live in one) but that's a far leap from those places being 'taken over'.

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Or the fact they are not trying to change the governors and staff of the schools with their own so they can make radical changes. Or building big mosques everywhere.

I'm sure I have seen people complaining about the amount of Polish in some areas, but you will ignore and forget that as it doesn't fit in with you insinuating everyone with an opinion different from yours is racist.

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Which could be seen as living in the countryside. so you don't see the drunks and the fights. the bad air. the traffic chaos. the rubbish on the streets not being collected. the little brats next door kicking the ball up the wall every waking hour.

so not caring :)

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The former is a problem and one which will hopefully be rooted out. The later is not an issue. Some of them look quite nice. The one in Whitechapel for example.

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Tower Hamlets would have been like that once, less than 10% of the community being muslim. Look at it now. Yes, it is a no go area for white people, especially at night.

Anyone can look at the stats and see that every year the percentages of muslims in an area are increasing. The amount of areas with muslims in is increasing too. It's easy to extrapolate the data and make the assumption that at some point in the near future muslims will be the dominant ones in the country and thus able to do whatever they want with schools or anything else in the local areas.

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What, ALL of them?

Really, trying to make my mind up for me again then?

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Right, you clearly know nothing about what Port Talbot is like which shouldn't surprise anyone.

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Racism accusations on any topic involving Islam and Muslims is all bollocks anyway.

There is no Muslim Race Islam is a multicultural religion and therefore anyone's intolerance to it can not be seen as racist. It just goes to show how the PC brigade truly are loonies with the very fact that they continually call anyone anti Islam in any way a racist

My intolerance to Islam in my opinion is no different than anyones intolerance to Jehovah's Witnesses

In fact upon reflection I have heard of a lot of people getting quite aggressive when a Jehovah's witness knocks on their door so in fact their intolerance is worse than mine

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Oh right, this time basing your opinion on what has not yet happened. Makes sense I suppose.

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forewarned is forearmed

there is evidence of what happens when areas of countries become mainly populated by Muslims. I would suggest you do a little research but I doubt you will. Some people would rather think this stuff is not happening

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I think that one of the reason people see Muslims as taking over is because they are relatively new to the Uk in any meaningful numbers ,they are building mosques and opening up schools in much the same way as other migrant groups have changed Britain in the past as they enter the country,indeed as we migrate to other countries we change those countries to suit ourselves ,the only difference between then and now is that we are living through it instead of reading about it in a history book .I know that my Grandfather and others of his generation had exactly the same concerns in post war Britain and again in the 60's my Father and Mother had similar concerns .The big difference between then and now though is that during the big influx of immigrants post war onwards we where rebuilding our infrastructure so the strain on our services was not as noticeable as it is now when we are trying to cut back on services

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and because of what is happening in certain areas of Africa and reports as close as France

The dominant forces change areas where they migrate they defeat those already there and force the change upon the nations ( history teaches us this) We however are submitting without defeat making us weak

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No, what a ridiculous thing to say.

No, just stating reality, which you appear to have left behind on the way to cloud cuckoo land.



Rhetorical questions while avoiding the actual arguments again. You kill any chance of a proper debate in these threads with the way you reply with stupid questions.

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he does not reply to me which is cool :)

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There are quite a few places that you wouldn't go at night in London and they're less to do with the racial demographics of the area and more to do with the economic status of the area. One of the poorest areas in a City also happens to be one of the least safe. It's not exactly new.

That said I do walk around Hackney, Tower Hamlets and so on. Admittedly in the day but it's fine. You notice it's an area with a high population of minorities but I don't feel intimidated because I am white. You wouldn't walk around a lot of places at night including Wood Green, areas of South London, Enfield etc.

Also crime in London has been declining despite the increase in the Muslim population.

It's easy to extrapolate the data and make the assumption that Muslims will take over but also incorrect. What evidence is there that it won't plateau and the trend will simply increase year-on-year?

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True, but in those areas EVERYONE is at risk. In Tower hamlets only white or non-muslim looking people will be the ones who need to be careful. It's racism but with the perpetrators nearly all being Muslim. So obviously not racism according to how some here seem to think,

It's easy to assume everyone can walk about like we can, with an air of confidence and not worrying too much about things but it's not the same for everyone. I have lived in Brixton, Croydon, Thornton heath (briefly) and have watched how bad things have got there over the years. Huge mixture of immigrants and trouble and there are plenty of areas I wouldn't let my mum go but i'm happy to go. That being said, I was always witnessing muslims fighting tamils and other such racial type tensions.

Yet most people think it hasn't gone down like the often massaged stats say, based on what they see with their own eyes. Like myself, many think that most don't bother to report crime as they police are next to useless most times. Some crime has gone up too, so saying crime in london has gone down is a bit vague really.

What evidence is there that say the current trend will stop? The current trends there is evidence for so the onus is for you to show that it will stop ;)

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History tells us that migration stops after a while as social factors change the reason for the migration ,we saw this with the Irish and the potato famine ,we saw it post wars(both) as immigration was actively encouraged because we our workforce took a serious hit ,in all cases throughout history migration of any sort hits a peak and then slows or stops

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Sorry but is there any evidence that non-White/Muslim people are not the victims of crime in Tower Hamlets? :rem: This seems like a rather extreme assertion.


But it's less vague than claiming crime is increasing because of people's perceptions of crime. That's an awful way to measure it. The statistics mirror the average downward trend in crime that has been occurring in the Western world as a whole. Crime in London has been falling and has been doing so despite this increase in immigration.

If it didn't we would be 'overrun' by Irish, people form India and so on. Every immigrant group tends to find they adapt as the generations go on. Economics tend to win out and subsequent generations of immigrants (i.e children of immigrants) tend to integrate better than their parents did. They want jobs, they want a comfortable lifestyle and so on.

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If they are the majority, they have by definition. " taken over"

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What's ridiculous, what I said or the generalisation you posted?



How ironic when your next line was...




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Fixed that for you.

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Doesn't have to be a majority to take over. Only helping out your own kind, keeping as much money within the "group", take over the local Labour party, imposing your rules on others, forcing others out. It all adds up.

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Ha, and your one that's always bleating about people putting words in " your" mouth.

The mind boggles?

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That sounds exactly like the actions of just about any identifiable "group".

Look at British ex pats who move to Spain, but hook up a sky dish to get Eastenders...

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:confused:

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Yes, out come the usual arguments about expats in Marbella.

Well, I don't live in Spain, if fact most people that live in the UK don't live Spain, so it's a pointless statement.

We're talking about the UK.

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The point is that any migrant population will change the area they live in to make it more like home ,expecting Muslims to be any different is ridiculous

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To put it simply, most of your criticisms of Muslims could be levelled at any other social group, including British ex pats on the costas. They spend their money in "English" shops, read "English" papers and are more likely than not to go spend their money with the "English" mechanics/plumbers/electricians than the "local" ones.

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Your missing the point entirely. The fact is that most migrant communities stick to their own customs, including the English abroad. Singling out Muslims for doing it seems hypocritical to me.

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Don't expect them to be different, do expect our government and local government not let it be to the detriment of the town and other groups living there.

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I'm not missing the point.

I don't live in Spain, so I'm not being hypocritical.

Also I'm not "singling" out Muslims, this thread happens to be about Muslims, therefore we're talking about Muslims.

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Well that's subjective isn't it ,some call it cultural expansion some call it Muslims taking over

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No go areas, harassing teenage girls and young women, trying subjugate the local education system..........

Subjective to some, a reality to others.

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By that definition the Cable Forum would have been taken over by UKIP supporters by now.

That's a very simplistic approach. The country has not been and will not be 'taken over' by Muslims.

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Chavs do that in most major town and cities regardless of religion.

So far that has been limited to certain areas of the country, by no means a 'majority' (or even close).

'Reality' is clearly subjective to some.

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But we've already been told that it's fine for the CofE and Catholics to do this (with public money no less)...

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Well yeah, your point is?

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I must be confused but when did the CofE or Catholics attempt to convert secular schools to schools of a religious nature in the manner discussed in the series of articles linked on this thread? :confused:

Opening up a faith school is quite a different matter from subverting a secular one.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-27290877

How is that biased?:confused:

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If you say so, but i expected you to say that anyway.

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He's simply forgotten what they're investigating. and what it's all about.

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"Birmingham City Council officials investigating an alleged plot by Muslim hardliners to take control of schools say they have seen no evidence of links to extremism, BBC News has learned."

Latest development.

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ah the old sweep it under the carpet ploy;)

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Yeh. would they really want to tell us if there was?

No. just sweep it under the carpet. and spray the rosey air freshener.

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Has anyone actually suggested this was linked to terrorism?

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Whistleblowers - including former staff - have made a number of allegations against schools in Birmingham since the accusations came to light, including one claim the teachings of an al-Qaeda-linked preacher were praised in front of pupils.

al -Qaeda got a mention i think their classed as terrorists in the west [not by all obviously] but by governments .

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But extremism was never the issue.

The issue was the islamification of secular schools.

The extremism angle is just a diversion.

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Birmingham City Council, which ignored complaints of Islamification for months, has now investigated an allegation that nobody made, concluded that there's no evidence of something nobody said there was any evidence of, and is frantically briefing every journalist in sight that there's nothing to see here, move along please ...

If they think it's going to go away that easily, they're even more stupid than they have so far appeared.

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Birmingham City Council really are a bunch of stupid berks when it comes to anything.

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Good old BBC, eh?

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The BBC really, really wants to believe that there's no problems in Birmingham because such problems don't sit well with its multicultural agenda. It's not surprising that they have jumped on this "investigation" by Birmingham without asking any of the awkward questions that should be second nature for any journalist.

The man to read as this story unfolds is Andrew Gilligan, coincidentally the man the BBC hung out to dry over the dodgy dossier affair. He reports regularly in the Telegraph.

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"....coincidentally <snip>". I like your style.

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I don't think the BBC are wrong to report this. It seems to be the case they haven't found any links with extremism and fair enough, report on that. It's the only substantive part of the leak with the rest being that they expect a 'firestorm' when the report is released.

That said I agree with Pierre in that this wasn't expected to be an issue with 'extremism' as opposed to people trying to take over a school with a religious agenda.

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How the BBC is selectively reporting the Trojan Horse plot, by Andrew Gilligan:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/an...an-horse-plot/

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The concluding paragraph from Gilligan's report sums it up pretty well:


"...the Beeb's record on the story has been mixed. It has done some real reporting on it – that is, making the effort, like us, to gather actual evidence of its own. But on other occasions it’s been too ready to take at face value the obviously self-serving denials of obviously interested parties – such as governors of the schools concerned, or in this case Birmingham City Council."

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How is "no links to extremism" any better? If anything, it's worse, as it highlights that this sort of thing is everyday and routine and not just a limited number of people doing it.

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According to others he's quite adept at selective reporting himself it would seem.

The truth about Andrew Gilligan.

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I would take anything said by a journalist inclined to defend Lutfur Rahman with a very, very large pinch of salt.

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I'm merely making the point "each to their own", Chris.

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It used to be Reds under the bed..then it was the IRA..and now it's Islamists.;)

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I know, and I'm merely pointing out the risks of false equivalence. ;)

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Fair point. Right enough, Lutfur Rahman is still alive. ;)

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A Guardian journalist was chaperoned around the school for a day and reports all is fine, so that's that.

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They say it's a victim of it's success but the other day I read an article that said the school had received warnings for five different things in the last few years. Can't remember the details exactly but the school appeared to have a number of problems to do with education.

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Which conclusion hasn't prevented the Graun from running with an angle that is somewhere between "nothing to see here, move along please" and "won't somebody think of the children!!!11!"

You can always rely on Rusbridger to supply a useful idiot when you need one.

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I don't think the article is suggesting that it's all fine and 'that's that' on the basis of that article. It clearly states they were chaperoned. It is obviously from the side of the people in the school but doesn't pretend not to be nor pretend to be an authoritative investigation into the issue.

I don't see the harm in it. Then again I don't see the harm in the BBC taking a more moderate tone on the story than that of The Telegraph.

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From what I remember in school if there was any kind of inspection being planned, in the days leading up to it everything was tidied, polished, stacked neatly etc....

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Which for me begs the question of why it's in a newspaper. There is extensive, cautious use of language to avoid presenting opinions as facts however the overall tone is that the DfE, and those reporting on it all are victimising the school for doing well. This is absurd and the piece utterly ignores the mounting evidence of issues in the school.

I mean for heaven's sake, he published a denial from the governor that there was anything up without any criticism or balance. This guy co-wrote a paper on Islamising secular schools in the UK a few years back and the presence of an extremist-linked preacher was advertised in the school's own newsletter.

The mockery that the piece faces from most of the comments shows just how ridiculous this piece is. It rather justifies the accusations against this newspaper and indeed the BBC over selective reporting, obsessive ignorance of any issues with 'multiculturalism' and pandering to a 'metropolitan elite'.

It should be noted Gilligan presents what he says in his column as facts and the school, etc, can most certainly make complaints and in the case of individuals take him to court for libel, just as was done over his coverage of Tower Hamlets which was so roundly condemned by people like Mehdi Hasan alongside Guardianistas who accused him of Islamophobia.

Shedloads of complaints came in, the evidence won, Gilligan gets to continue describing Lutfur Rahman as linked to extremists despite Mehdi thinking Rahman is awesome.

The writer of this piece incidentally seems quite convinced from his tour that the school is 'good'.

http://www.dixinormous.me.uk/parkview.png

This is supposed to be the Grauniad's education man. Can you seriously take a newspaper seriously if it happily regurgitates things which are provably false because they follow its own agenda?

It's like the Daily Mail thrown into reverse and put on steroids.

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I know. they do the same on my road. everytime the Queen's coming through. they cut the grass and have a big tidy up.

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Surely you mean Islamophobes? ;)

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The Guardian and BBC are just as biased (but on the other side of the fence) as the DailyMail when it comes to Islam, immigration, homosexuality and other subjects.

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No! I typed what I meant..and it's just been a way for various media outlets to pursue agendas that get them the highest financial reward by pandering to the Islamophobes..and to those who are on the opposing libertarian side

There may well have been a plot or there may not..but it has to be said that the media will profit long after the investigation finishes whatever the outcome.They will just move on to the next Islamist issue to highlight, whichever side of the debate they are on.

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When is the report out anyway? Apparently it's going to be bad.

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Also whatever happened to the infamous 'letter'?

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Show me the massive negative media coverage of this or Tower Hamlets council's woes, please.

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The next issue

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Sadly the only place I've read anything about that was in the last issue of Private Eye.Apparently the only source of journalistic endeavors at present.;)

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Which one? The current one or the one before?

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issue 1364 18 April -1st May. Rotten Boroughs.

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So these various media outlets pursuing agendas pandering to Islamophobes for financial rewards are Private Eye through an ongoing feature that's been running for ages. Gotcha.

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:tu:

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Looks like Amnesty International have become a bunch of Islamophobes too.

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Sorry I apologise for not noting the Tower Hamlets case in particular and being too general.However my point still applies for the DM and The Sun and other outlets in regards to promoting and pandering islamophobia. The fact that that only PE has noted Tower Hamlets may be rectified eventually.It usually take the rest of the media world anything from 3 months to a year or more to catch up with stories that are first printed by PE.:shrug:

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I asked about coverage of this schools issue or Tower Hamlets as those are the two stories that came to mind.

I won't disagree that there are biases in the mainstream media however I vehemently disagree with the assertion that mainstream media is Islamophobic. IMHO it routinely sweeps as much as possible under the carpet in the name of multiculturalism, only really major issues get any light shone on them.

The stories about these issues are largely in reference to responses from politicians rather than discussing the facts or otherwise of the case. The only outlet I can see actually doing any investigative work in the Torygraph, the rest appear to be happy to take whatever politicians, local and national, and those involved say and run with it.

Your mileage may of course vary. I am sorry I didn't make what I was asking clearer.

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More like Dave will tell them not to make noise publicly to protect the conservatives image.

I see they managed to sneak terrorism in to the article when the islamic school thing has nothing to do with it.

Politicians still don't understand that if we didn't go around invading foreign countries like a good little lapdog for the US, we wouldn't have to worry about so much terrorism. If they simply put a statement out saying "screw the US, we are not invading any more countries with them as they are war mongers and we will also put Blair in front of a war crimes court" then 95% of the problem would be

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/06/36.jpg

One of Dave's angry faces.

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Nah!! He's just a bit constipated :)

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Agree, he's full of it :Yes:

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Leaked.

Park View said Ofsted made "absolutely no suggestion, nor did they find any evidence, that Park View schools either promote or tolerate extremism or radicalisation".

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The first few paragraphs of the article say:

Something doesn't sound right about this whole thing still and those comments suggest something being swept under the rug and these warnings issued instead.


Sounds like there is definitely a muslim issue at the school, so maybe the trojan horses were mostly already in place...

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Still, according to the school apparently Ofsted "made absolutely no suggestion, nor did they find any evidence, that Park View schools either promote or tolerate extremism or radicalisation".

I'm sure if your concerns are well founded we'll be hearing more about the matter from official sources.

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It's all very weird. Since when were schools meant to have "training in the government's anti-extremism Prevent programme"? That sounds dodgy, it makes it sound like there is a problem with the school.

How come Ofsted have changed their review so quickly? Why did Gove send a anti-terror specialist to investigate and what is happening with that investigation? Have Birmingham got caught in the middle of a cabinet power struggle which has surged ahead of both Ofsted, the local council and the police to verify these allegations? Also what ever happened to that letter?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27727345

I think Gove is just trying to deflect 'blame' from his department onto May's department..And after her prolonged efforts to get rid of our more high profile terrorist inmates I think she is feeling rather fragile..;)

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27739044

He may be right but his remarks would have a tad more credibility if it wasn't for the fact that Labour were far more incompetent in terms of dealing with extremism (not to mention a host of other things) during their 13 years in power.

At least May managed to get shot of Hamza and Qatada, something Labour never managed - they were, after all, the government who allowed Hamza to openly preach hatred in the streets outside Finsbury Park mosque. Their illegal wars and abject failure to get to grips with extremism led us in large part to where we are now so to blame the current incumbents for not putting the genie back in the bottle is about as rich as Bliar's wine cellar.

Anyway it'll be interesting to hear what proposals he has for handling extremism a bit better...

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If that's the best that they can do the rest of the report can't be pleasant. The primary purpose of it as I understand it was the 'Islamification' of secular schools. Going by that Guardian article guilty as charged.

Zero doubt West Midlands Police and Birmingham City Council will seize on this in a desperate attempt to deflect from their own failings. Wonder if West Midlands Police will follow previous form and launch a criminal investigation against Ofsted?

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As was mentioned earlier in this thread.

Did the original complaint have any thing to do with " extremism" or " Radicalisation"?

I was under the impression the " Trojan horse" complaint was the islamisation of secular schools, nothing more.

This extremism angle is a smoke screen.

The report Might as well say they found no evidence the school promoted the worship of fairies and wizards.

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Exactly

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I don't know. Did it?

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Not as far as I can ascertain.

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No, it didn't. Once they were forced to act, Birmingham City Council and its multicultural fanboy allies set up a straw man and have been desperately trying to kick it to bits ever since. The Trojan Horse allegations were not about extremism and radicalisation. They were, in the words of BCC's own chief executive, about "whether there’s undue influence in the ethos, curriculum and practices of schools in relation to Islam."

Andrew Gilligan blogged on this a month ago. As it happens, he believes there is evidence of extremism, nevertheless this is not the pretext upon which all the official investigations were launched.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/an...an-horse-plot/

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Cheers.

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'Trojan Horse': Schools trust hits out at special measures decision

This is far from over one thinks.