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BBC America for example is nothing like what broadcasts here: http://www.bbcamerica.com/schedule/ Maybe ABC, CW and USA Network would make more money from an exclusive carriage deal for their channels, and advertising revenue on those channels, than by selling their shows to existing UK broadcasters? |
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Confirmed: Lifetime to launch on November 4th.
Overnights.tv has confirmed that Lifetime will launch on November 4th replacing Bio. on Virgin Channel 242. http://overnights.tv/public/content/News.aspx Still no news on if Lifetime +1 will also launch on November 4th on Virgin Media. |
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True Movies should be in M, I don't know how they have the cheek to scramble it :D |
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So is Bio shutting completely? Shame if it is, I have watched some good stuff on there in the past.
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But it could mean the launch of History HD and CI HD (surprised Lifetime won't get a HD counterpart, seems kind of pointless not launching in HD) |
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As an example, Breaking Bad. One of the best shows to come out of the States in years, but on what channel can you see this on? None. Now it is on netflix now, but there were years that no channel aired this show due to poor ratings when it used to be on fx. The fact that when it did air it was on at midnight, might be a reason for the poor ratings... Sony, the maker of Breaking Bad, were reported to be very unhappy that their most prestigious show was not getting scheduled correctly. So this may be a reason why the major US broadcasters want to have their own channels in the UK. |
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To be fair Bio hasn't really been Bio for some time now, used to watch that channel a lot with all their profiles on film stars etc, but last couple of years it's just been reality shows
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BBC One +1 to launch, according to the Director-General.
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That would be extremely useful for me....
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Football fans can now watch football from down under LIVE on BT Sports every weekend.
BT Sports are showing FOUR games per week from Hyundai A-League. |
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Given the number of programme clashes, particularly around 9 and 10pm, additional +1 channels from the BBC will be very welcome in my household. |
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Given that Sony have their own TV channel, it makes you wonder why they didn't put it on there. Same with critically acclaimed Damages, which the BBC abandoned. The answer is that unpopular shows don't bring in the advertising revenue. Netflix came to the rescue in both of those cases. |
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I just hope BBC use their local feeds for +1s from the beginning and don't use a non regional feed like they did with BBC One HD for a long time. They still haven't regionalised the BBC Two HD feed as I wanted to see a Scotland only show on it and realised that I had to switch to SD.
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The BBC is not the largest percentage of my viewing, but I think it is important that we have a broadcaster that is not completely controlled by what is popular (i.e. brings in advertising revenue) and caters for minority interests. Sadly the BBC does get swayed a little to much by audience ratings and competing for prime time viewing numbers with ITV, but it is better than having every channel run on programming that is ad revenue driven. |
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Still think BT are lacking a bit more content IMO, glad I get for free with XL, be interested to know how many pay as extra channel and think its better than previous incarnation that was ESPN and its sister channels of North America and classic |
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I think it's great that we have to pay for things we may never watch. It means we also get things we want to watch (and listen to) but would otherwise not exist. |
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More info on the beebs plans here - http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...one-1-bbc.html
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However, I guess it depends on what you like to watch. I just don't go for shallow programming, reality shows and documentaries based on the afflictions some poor people have to put up with. I do think, however, that the funding for the BBC should be re-thought. For example, rather than a licensing fee, why not set up a subscription channel (or bouquet of channels) with advertisements showing quality dramas, shows, documentaries, films, etc, which can then be repeated in the summer months on BBC1 and 2? I also think that all the existing BBC channels should carry advertisements between programmes (not during programmes). I think if a Conservative Government is elected next time around, they will either reduce or abolish the licence fee, but I don't think any other political party will go that far if elected. However, the licence fee annoys so many people, I think that sooner or later the Government of the day is going to have to do something about it. I just hope the result is one based on intelligent thinking and does not result in dumbing down of programmes. |
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We have a public service broadcaster that is the envy of the world. If you want mindless, repetitive sport or trashy reality tv for morons then the BBC is not for you. If you are happy with continual recycling of the same content then look no further than Sky.
American TV has some gems but it is full of rubbish too. Without the TV paid for by the licence fee art and religious TV (the latter is never watche by me but is vital to many) as well as experimental comedy and drama will never be broadcast. If you want TV for morons then abolish the licence fee. If you want accountable broadcasters backed up by more experience than all others put together then put up with paying your taxes and enjoy something that many other countries would love. |
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well said agree with you,look at the history channel.No history on the channel but lots of realiy tv like pawn stars |
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I would not want the quality of programming sacrificed by any alternative solution, but I do think the BBC could be run a lot more efficiently. It needs some commercial discipline to achieve this. |
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Agree the need to run more efficiently, but in my opinion, removing the licence fee will mean dross programs from the BBC. Regardless of other views, the BBC is the envy of the world, and they have such wide and varied programs that cater to every taste.
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Suddenly this thread is full of Daily Mail readers who want to shut down the BBC by killing off the license fee
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Getting rid of the license fee, would just be ridiculous in my eyes. BBC radio 2,3,4 and 5 are worth the fee on their own. There are many programmes I choose not to watch, but some BBC productions are fantastically well made. The nature programmes, in particular are always extremely watchable and informative. Yes, Eastenders drags the intelligence level straight back down but Only Connect, Mastermind and University Challenge soon sort that out :-). The comedy content alone (forget the excellent dramatizations for a minute) from Radio 4 must get a mention too, such great programmes over the years. Just A Minute and I'm Sorry I haven't a Clue will always be timeless and deserve to be heard for many, many years to come.
A world without the BBC TV and Radio would be a considerably dumber, less comical place. I would gladly pay more of a fee just to stop BBC Three from broadcasting :-). |
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The current system of paying for the BBC is broken and needs looking at. I fully agree with the suggestion that we need to keep licence payer funded broadcaster to provide a platform for niche and experimental television. I can't, however, accept that I should have to see some of my money be put towards biased, agenda led news output and over paying executives when they're removed for doing their jobs poorly. The BBC should be slimmed down and the licence fee reduced accordingly, not aim to be a behemoth like replacement for those who don't want to subscribe to pay tv.
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So which is cheaper to the GB public ITV, Ch4 5 or the BBC? |
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I think I will wait on more info coming via the BBC about BBC One +1 before posting my own view.
-Will the BBC launch one BBC One +1 channel or will they launch up to four channels - one for England, Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland? -Will it launch on Virgin Media? MB HQ thinks if BBC One +1 do launch on Virgin Media it will launch on Virgin Channel 108. With BBC One HD moving to beside BBC TWO HD and BBC ALBA on the Virgin EPG. |
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Let them trounce the X Factor in the ratings on Saturdays. Why not it's good for the morale of the nation!! |
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And as far as I recall, ITV had that reality game show spot with X Factor, before the BBC launched Strictly. The BBC should have picked a different time for Strictly. |
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You mean those 10 million who don't want to subscribe to pay TV? ;) Do the ones who subscribe to Pay TV never watch the BBC, use it's catch up or listen to it's radio stations then? |
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Let them do what they do best, lead the industry in innovation and experimentation, but make sure they remember the responsibility they have to spend our money properly in these areas rather than trying to imitate ad supported broadcasters who need to produce broadly popular programming to increase revenue. ---------- Post added at 17:36 ---------- Previous post was at 17:33 ---------- Quote:
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Great News all these channels, but there must be a price rise on the Horizon!.
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Whatever you think about that specific policy, I'd argue that as the nation's broadcaster, paid for by the licence fee, they have a duty to report factually. All elements of the story should be covered but it shouldn't be presented at the start from either side of the argument. This is worth a read http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...ve-admits.html |
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That said, I don't read the Mail, and I honestly wasn't looking to give my opinion here about that specific policy. To be honest, my opinion of it is irrelevant as far as a discussion about the BBC is concerned, and as far as news broadcasting goes I don't mind how Sky News or CNN or whoever dress up their coverage, but from the BBC, the nation's broadcaster, paid for by us through our licence fee, I don't want any dressing. The BBC should be where I go for factual reporting of the highest order. They have a hard won world wide reputation for quality. They deserve that to a certain degree, but they don't get to keep it without working hard to do so. That's the point I'm trying to make. ---------- Post added at 19:03 ---------- Previous post was at 18:58 ---------- Quote:
And of course Nigel Farage gets loads of coverage these days - the left will be the big winners if Farage does well and splits the centre right! (Cynical, moi?) |
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Andrew Marr in 2006 - "The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities, and gay people. It has a liberal bias, not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias."
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How do they compete unfairly with rival broadcasters? And where is your evidence for the bit I have emboldened? ---------- Post added at 19:25 ---------- Previous post was at 19:20 ---------- Quote:
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This thread is not about the BBC, get back on topic please.
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And don't forget to factor in any personal bias those people expressing their opinions on BBC neutrality may have; even Nigel and Andrew! |
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Moving on...
Media Boy any potential surprises for us this week to wake up to and smile to? also a series of questions for you 1) how many insiders do you have currently? 2) do you message them or do they message you? 3) if you ever bring news of sky atlantic you must realise many people will propose to you? Just general questions to move the convo onwards.... |
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The big question is when will these rumoured BomberAF channels arrive and from rumours in the wind hopefully it will be sooner rather then later......
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Coupled with a pvr, +1 channels are very handy and there really is no reason to miss your favourite show anymore. All we need now is decent shows!:) ---------- Post added at 20:03 ---------- Previous post was at 20:01 ---------- Quote:
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Seriously, it's not just the TV that the licence fee pays for is it. If they listen to any BBC Radio, they will need to pay for that too. Should there be a separate fee for TV and radio? Probably but it is not an option currently. Anyway, thanks MB for the info. Lets hope you can give us some good news on what is actually coming soon in the not too distant future!!!! |
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Or Virgin will wait until the other four rumours channel launch within the next two weeks - to add them all in the one go. But I can reveal that FOX + is coming just do not know when. |
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At least this decreases the chances of a tuner clash preventing BBC 1 content from being recorded when using Wishlists. |
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Somebody reporting on Digitalspy that Now thats what i call music is set to launch on Virgin, Freeview and Sky.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...1#post69092711 |
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Media Boy update.
-Two HD Channels may launch within the next two weeks. -One SD Channel may launch within the next two weeks. -One add on one hour Channel may launch within the next two weeks. -FOX + will launch on Virgin Media soon (Has appeared on Anywhere some weeks back). -The new BBC HD Channels will launch on Virgin Media before Christmas. -An new Asian news channel (News 18) is set to launch on Virgin Media before Christmas. |
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Now where is that chap with the gun? |
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Seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me if LG (with their business contacts) have grown impatient with Sky for being unreasonable about the supply of Sky Atlantic and have decided to go down this route Instead. |
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[/COLOR]The Sony channel on VM is on too high of a EPG number, I can't remember its location on Sky. So, it's not just a matter of the US channels having their own channels here too, but their location on the EPGs as well.[/QUOTE]
Why does it matter how high the EPG number is? If I want to watch a program on any channel the EPG number does not sway my decision in any form whatsoever. Or am I missing something? |
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If I want to watch a program on any channel the EPG number does not sway my decision in any form whatsoever. Or am I missing something?[/QUOTE] Broadcasters prefer EPG slots lower down the guide as the theory (which appears to be correct) is that people start channel hopping from the first channel onwards and stop when they find something that they find interesting. Hence, the higher up an EPG number one has, the more likely that viewers will have found something that they want to watch before they reach your channel. Less viewers= less advertising revenue and/or a risk that the platform may decide that a channel with low viewing figures isn't worth keeping (this has actually happened in the past). So, the EPG position is very important indeed :D |
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Virgin Media remove THREE Channels from 'Total Channels'.
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Of course, even the channel hoppers could set their favourites, but I suspect they are far too lazy to do that! The sad fact is that this is how many people do find the programmes they want to see and this is why the channels themselves like to have a position high up on the EPG. |
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sky sports no longer saying all 6 sports channel in HD exclusive to sky.I know it does't mean much but thought it may be interesting to know
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As for Sky Atlantic, it would appear that this deal is already pretty well done and it should be on VM this autumn, along with the other missing Sky channels. I hope that the new found co-operation with Sky is a long term thing and not just a flash in the pan. |
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