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spiderplant 07-10-2013 23:40

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35629289)
I also don't think non essential VM staff would appreciate being asked to go into work first thing New Years Day to change the encryption level!

Fortunately most changes can be done remotely. If things need to be done during the change freeze, they are. IIRC there was a channel rename on January 1st this year.

Slightly concerned by your use of the term "non-essential" though :erm:

theone2k10 08-10-2013 00:17

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35629152)
Confirmed: Christmas comes early on Movies 24.

Movies 24 will magically transforms into Christmas 24 from 3rd November to 4th January.

https://www.facebook.com/Christmas24movies

It's not Christmas until you see this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=356GGdAlQ0A :D

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35629289)
I find it odd that this is only until 31 December. Maybe that's when the carriage agreement ends and VM have secured a variation in the contract until then to move the channels down to M+??

If this is the case, I'd expect the channels to remain in M+ from 1 January 2014 onwards. I also don't think non essential VM staff would appreciate being asked to go into work first thing New Years Day to change the encryption level! (unless this can be programmed in advance). When does the non essential freeze on changes end this/next year?

I could be wrong and it may be that it is the decision of VM as to which pack a basic channel goes into. I say this because I know that Sky were extremely annoyed that VM initially put Sky 1 into the free M TV pack. This only changed when Sky and VM agreed carriage terms for Sky 3/Pick TV and this channel replaced Sky 1 to align it with the freeview service that M TV broadly reflects.

CBS reality , CBS Drama , Horror , CBS Action and the relevant +1s are in the M pack at the moment.

ocav 08-10-2013 00:17

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35629289)
I find it odd that this is only until 31 December. Maybe that's when the carriage agreement ends and VM have secured a variation in the contract until then to move the channels down to M+??

If this is the case, I'd expect the channels to remain in M+ from 1 January 2014 onwards. I also don't think non essential VM staff would appreciate being asked to go into work first thing New Years Day to change the encryption level! (unless this can be programmed in advance). When does the non essential freeze on changes end this/next year?

I could be wrong and it may be that it is the decision of VM as to which pack a basic channel goes into. I say this because I know that Sky were extremely annoyed that VM initially put Sky 1 into the free M TV pack. This only changed when Sky and VM agreed carriage terms for Sky 3/Pick TV and this channel replaced Sky 1 to align it with the freeview service that M TV broadly reflects.

Well there is a strong rumour on here that there may be significant changes to packages, which would give these channels reason to stay free until this happens.

Also the fact a few of them are FTA on DSAT may also be a reason for keeping them free for longer than previously planned

Chad 08-10-2013 01:51

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35629233)
If VM got the UK versions of those channels, what exactly do people expect on those channels?

I'd expect to see a mixture of back catalogue shows and stuff not currently picked up in the UK. Through time, as current broadcast deals expire and new shows are created, the UK versions of each channel will start to feel more and more like it's American cousin.

BBC America for example is nothing like what broadcasts here:

http://www.bbcamerica.com/schedule/

Maybe ABC, CW and USA Network would make more money from an exclusive carriage deal for their channels, and advertising revenue on those channels, than by selling their shows to existing UK broadcasters?

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 02:54

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Confirmed: Lifetime to launch on November 4th.

Overnights.tv has confirmed that Lifetime will launch on November 4th replacing Bio. on Virgin Channel 242.

http://overnights.tv/public/content/News.aspx

Still no news on if Lifetime +1 will also launch on November 4th on Virgin Media.

RichardCoulter 08-10-2013 06:08

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35629295)
Fortunately most changes can be done remotely. If things need to be done during the change freeze, they are. IIRC there was a channel rename on January 1st this year.

Slightly concerned by your use of the term "non-essential" though :erm:

Like most companies, i'm sure that VM only insist on essential staff going into work on the main days over the festive period.

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35629304)
It's not Christmas until you see this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=356GGdAlQ0A :D

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CBS reality , CBS Drama , Horror , CBS Action and the relevant +1s are in the M pack at the moment.

ohhh, I thought they'd gone down to M+. I wonder if VM are trying to make TV M the best of both Freesat and freeview??

True Movies should be in M, I don't know how they have the cheek to scramble it :D

MalteseFalcon 08-10-2013 06:58

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So is Bio shutting completely? Shame if it is, I have watched some good stuff on there in the past.

ocav 08-10-2013 08:12

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35629339)
So is Bio shutting completely? Shame if it is, I have watched some good stuff on there in the past.

Most likely, they shut down Bio HD a while back which kind of signals the end of a channel to me.

But it could mean the launch of History HD and CI HD (surprised Lifetime won't get a HD counterpart, seems kind of pointless not launching in HD)

alwaysabear 08-10-2013 10:08

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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35629343)
Most likely, they shut down Bio HD a while back which kind of signals the end of a channel to me.

But it could mean the launch of History HD and CI HD (surprised Lifetime won't get a HD counterpart, seems kind of pointless not launching in HD)

It does seem strange not to launch Lifetime HD at the same time.

Horizon 08-10-2013 11:41

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35629328)
Maybe ABC, CW and USA Network would make more money from an exclusive carriage deal for their channels, and advertising revenue on those channels, than by selling their shows to existing UK broadcasters?

Quite possibly but what they would definitely be able to do is schedule the programmes as they see fit and that may be one of the reasons behind this move, if it happens.

As an example, Breaking Bad. One of the best shows to come out of the States in years, but on what channel can you see this on? None. Now it is on netflix now, but there were years that no channel aired this show due to poor ratings when it used to be on fx. The fact that when it did air it was on at midnight, might be a reason for the poor ratings...

Sony, the maker of Breaking Bad, were reported to be very unhappy that their most prestigious show was not getting scheduled correctly. So this may be a reason why the major US broadcasters want to have their own channels in the UK.

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 12:35

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35629339)
So is Bio shutting completely?

Yes.

Lifetime has been confirmed as launching on Virgin Channel 242.

freakgirl 08-10-2013 12:55

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To be fair Bio hasn't really been Bio for some time now, used to watch that channel a lot with all their profiles on film stars etc, but last couple of years it's just been reality shows

cdf90 08-10-2013 13:05

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BBC One +1 to launch, according to the Director-General.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...one-plus1.html

Doug P 08-10-2013 13:06

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That would be extremely useful for me....

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 13:07

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Football fans can now watch football from down under LIVE on BT Sports every weekend.

BT Sports are showing FOUR games per week from Hyundai A-League.

DJ-SWITCH 08-10-2013 13:09

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Originally Posted by cdf90 (Post 35629405)
BBC One +1 to launch, according to the Director-General.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...one-plus1.html

Now that is a wast no point in that :o: more bbc channels more the licensing
fee with go up

Think we should have a choice if we want the bbc channels couse I wouldn't never watch them for people who don't watch them should'nt have to pay a tv licensing fee just a rip off

OLD BOY 08-10-2013 13:17

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35629377)
Quite possibly but what they would definitely be able to do is schedule the programmes as they see fit and that may be one of the reasons behind this move, if it happens.

As an example, Breaking Bad. One of the best shows to come out of the States in years, but on what channel can you see this on? None. Now it is on netflix now, but there were years that no channel aired this show due to poor ratings when it used to be on fx. The fact that when it did air it was on at midnight, might be a reason for the poor ratings...

Sony, the maker of Breaking Bad, were reported to be very unhappy that their most prestigious show was not getting scheduled correctly. So this may be a reason why the major US broadcasters want to have their own channels in the UK.

This was my take on it, Horizon. It will be very good news for us if there are first run shows on these new US channels when they are launched. It would be Virgin Media's answer to Sky Atlantic!

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Originally Posted by DJ-SWITCH (Post 35629410)
Now that is a wast no point in that :o: more bbc channels more the licensing
fee with go up

Think we should have a choice if we want the bbc channels couse I wouldn't never watch them for people who don't watch them should have to pay a tv licensing fee just a rip off

The licensing fee is currently frozen, so no chance of that. There is no reason at all why the BBC should not add +1 channels like all other major channels have done.

Given the number of programme clashes, particularly around 9 and 10pm, additional +1 channels from the BBC will be very welcome in my household.

passingbat 08-10-2013 13:22

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35629377)

Sony, the maker of Breaking Bad, were reported to be very unhappy that their most prestigious show was not getting scheduled correctly. So this may be a reason why the major US broadcasters want to have their own channels in the UK.


Given that Sony have their own TV channel, it makes you wonder why they didn't put it on there. Same with critically acclaimed Damages, which the BBC abandoned. The answer is that unpopular shows don't bring in the advertising revenue.

Netflix came to the rescue in both of those cases.

weetomuncher 08-10-2013 13:23

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I just hope BBC use their local feeds for +1s from the beginning and don't use a non regional feed like they did with BBC One HD for a long time. They still haven't regionalised the BBC Two HD feed as I wanted to see a Scotland only show on it and realised that I had to switch to SD.

DJ-SWITCH 08-10-2013 13:24

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35629413)
This was my take on it, Horizon. It will be very good news for us if there are first run shows on these new US channels when they are launched. It would be Virgin Media's answer to Sky Atlantic!

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The licensing fee is currently frozen, so no chance of that. There is no reason at all why the BBC should not add +1 channels like all other major channels have done.

Given the number of programme clashes, particularly around 9 and 10pm, additional +1 channels from the BBC will be very welcome in my household.

BBC TV is just poor I think it's not for me bbc radio 1xtra is the only good1 that's just my point

passingbat 08-10-2013 13:36

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Originally Posted by DJ-SWITCH (Post 35629410)
Now that is a wast no point in that :o: more bbc channels more the licensing
fee with go up

Think we should have a choice if we want the bbc channels couse I wouldn't never watch them for people who don't watch them should'nt have to pay a tv licensing fee just a rip off

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ-SWITCH (Post 35629420)
BBC TV is just poor I think it's not for me bbc radio 1xtra is the only good1 that's just my point


The BBC is not the largest percentage of my viewing, but I think it is important that we have a broadcaster that is not completely controlled by what is popular (i.e. brings in advertising revenue) and caters for minority interests. Sadly the BBC does get swayed a little to much by audience ratings and competing for prime time viewing numbers with ITV, but it is better than having every channel run on programming that is ad revenue driven.

Anypermitedroute 08-10-2013 13:39

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35629409)
Football fans can now watch football from down under LIVE on BT Sports every weekend.

BT Sports are showing FOUR games per week from Hyundai A-League.

good news for those who still want to watch the talent that is Emil Heskey! I think Del Piero is playing down under as well

Still think BT are lacking a bit more content IMO, glad I get for free with XL, be interested to know how many pay as extra channel and think its better than previous incarnation that was ESPN and its sister channels of North America and classic

JayAy 08-10-2013 13:45

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Originally Posted by DJ-SWITCH (Post 35629410)
Think we should have a choice if we want the bbc channels couse I wouldn't never watch them for people who don't watch them should'nt have to pay a tv licensing fee just a rip off

Be careful what you wish for! 1 Extra would not be the same under a pure commercial model, if it existed at all.

gizuk 08-10-2013 14:02

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Originally Posted by JayAy (Post 35629428)
Be careful what you wish for! 1 Extra would not be the same under a pure commercial model, if it existed at all.

I totally agree. 1 Extra would not still be running (or have been launched) if it wasn't for the unique way the BBC is funded.

I think it's great that we have to pay for things we may never watch. It means we also get things we want to watch (and listen to) but would otherwise not exist.

Gavin-D 08-10-2013 14:05

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More info on the beebs plans here - http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...one-1-bbc.html

OLD BOY 08-10-2013 14:09

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Originally Posted by DJ-SWITCH (Post 35629420)
BBC TV is just poor I think it's not for me bbc radio 1xtra is the only good1 that's just my point

Sorry, DJ, but I can't agree with that. They have far more programmes on in a week that are worth watching than the likes of Sky One.

However, I guess it depends on what you like to watch. I just don't go for shallow programming, reality shows and documentaries based on the afflictions some poor people have to put up with.

I do think, however, that the funding for the BBC should be re-thought. For example, rather than a licensing fee, why not set up a subscription channel (or bouquet of channels) with advertisements showing quality dramas, shows, documentaries, films, etc, which can then be repeated in the summer months on BBC1 and 2? I also think that all the existing BBC channels should carry advertisements between programmes (not during programmes).

I think if a Conservative Government is elected next time around, they will either reduce or abolish the licence fee, but I don't think any other political party will go that far if elected.

However, the licence fee annoys so many people, I think that sooner or later the Government of the day is going to have to do something about it. I just hope the result is one based on intelligent thinking and does not result in dumbing down of programmes.

ford prefect 08-10-2013 14:45

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We have a public service broadcaster that is the envy of the world. If you want mindless, repetitive sport or trashy reality tv for morons then the BBC is not for you. If you are happy with continual recycling of the same content then look no further than Sky.

American TV has some gems but it is full of rubbish too. Without the TV paid for by the licence fee art and religious TV (the latter is never watche by me but is vital to many) as well as experimental comedy and drama will never be broadcast.

If you want TV for morons then abolish the licence fee. If you want accountable broadcasters backed up by more experience than all others put together then put up with paying your taxes and enjoy something that many other countries would love.

blue666666 08-10-2013 14:52

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Originally Posted by ford prefect (Post 35629447)
We have a public service broadcaster that is the envy of the world. If you want mindless, repetitive sport or trashy reality tv for morons then the BBC is not for you. If you are happy with continual recycling of the same content then look no further than Sky.

American TV has some gems but it is full of rubbish too. Without the TV paid for by the licence fee art and religious TV (the latter is never watche by me but is vital to many) as well as experimental comedy and drama will never be broadcast.

If you want TV for morons then abolish the licence fee. If you want accountable broadcasters backed up by more experience than all others put together then put up with paying your taxes and enjoy something that many other countries would love.


well said agree with you,look at the history channel.No history on the channel but lots of realiy tv like pawn stars

OLD BOY 08-10-2013 14:55

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Originally Posted by ford prefect (Post 35629447)
We have a public service broadcaster that is the envy of the world. If you want mindless, repetitive sport or trashy reality tv for morons then the BBC is not for you. If you are happy with continual recycling of the same content then look no further than Sky.

American TV has some gems but it is full of rubbish too. Without the TV paid for by the licence fee art and religious TV (the latter is never watche by me but is vital to many) as well as experimental comedy and drama will never be broadcast.

If you want TV for morons then abolish the licence fee. If you want accountable broadcasters backed up by more experience than all others put together then put up with paying your taxes and enjoy something that many other countries would love.

I think a reduction in the licence fee, bolstered by advertising and subscription services is the way to go.

I would not want the quality of programming sacrificed by any alternative solution, but I do think the BBC could be run a lot more efficiently. It needs some commercial discipline to achieve this.

MutleyF 08-10-2013 15:03

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Agree the need to run more efficiently, but in my opinion, removing the licence fee will mean dross programs from the BBC. Regardless of other views, the BBC is the envy of the world, and they have such wide and varied programs that cater to every taste.

Removing the fee will remove these

passingbat 08-10-2013 15:07

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35629451)
I think a reduction in the licence fee, bolstered by advertising and subscription services is the way to go.

.


Why mess up a system that works very well by adding commercial funding into the mix?

The BBC offers tremendous value for money at the current cost of the licence fee.


I wonder how many of those who complain about the licence fee also download most of the things they watch to avoid paying anything for content?

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Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35629455)
Agree the need to run more efficiently, but in my opinion, removing the licence fee will mean dross programs from the BBC. Regardless of other views, the BBC is the envy of the world, and they have such wide and varied programs that cater to every taste.

Removing the fee will remove these

Spot on.

muppetman11 08-10-2013 15:30

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Originally Posted by MutleyF (Post 35629455)
Agree the need to run more efficiently, but in my opinion, removing the licence fee will mean dross programs from the BBC. Regardless of other views, the BBC is the envy of the world, and they have such wide and varied programs that cater to every taste.

Removing the fee will remove these

Like 'Strictly come dancing' , 'The Voice' , EastEnders :D

MutleyF 08-10-2013 15:34

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35629461)
Like 'Strictly come dancing' , 'The Voice' , EastEnders :D

Except for them ! :p:

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 15:47

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Originally Posted by cdf90 (Post 35629405)
BBC One +1 to launch, according to the Director-General.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...one-plus1.html

Is that an new name for BBC Two?;):D

toady 08-10-2013 16:13

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Suddenly this thread is full of Daily Mail readers who want to shut down the BBC by killing off the license fee

denphone 08-10-2013 16:19

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35629461)
Like 'Strictly come dancing' , 'The Voice' , EastEnders :D

And all the repeats they show as well.

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Originally Posted by toady (Post 35629473)
Suddenly this thread is full of Daily Mail readers who want to shut down the BBC by killing off the license fee

Sorry my friend but l don't read that dreadful rubbish.

harry_hitch 08-10-2013 16:20

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Getting rid of the license fee, would just be ridiculous in my eyes. BBC radio 2,3,4 and 5 are worth the fee on their own. There are many programmes I choose not to watch, but some BBC productions are fantastically well made. The nature programmes, in particular are always extremely watchable and informative. Yes, Eastenders drags the intelligence level straight back down but Only Connect, Mastermind and University Challenge soon sort that out :-). The comedy content alone (forget the excellent dramatizations for a minute) from Radio 4 must get a mention too, such great programmes over the years. Just A Minute and I'm Sorry I haven't a Clue will always be timeless and deserve to be heard for many, many years to come.
A world without the BBC TV and Radio would be a considerably dumber, less comical place.
I would gladly pay more of a fee just to stop BBC Three from broadcasting :-).

andy_m 08-10-2013 16:25

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The current system of paying for the BBC is broken and needs looking at. I fully agree with the suggestion that we need to keep licence payer funded broadcaster to provide a platform for niche and experimental television. I can't, however, accept that I should have to see some of my money be put towards biased, agenda led news output and over paying executives when they're removed for doing their jobs poorly. The BBC should be slimmed down and the licence fee reduced accordingly, not aim to be a behemoth like replacement for those who don't want to subscribe to pay tv.

MutleyF 08-10-2013 16:28

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35629474)
And all the repeats they show as well..

My concern with the repeats is that they show them so quickly after the first airing. However, even that has it's advantages ....

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Another thing to consider is that the BBC is an innovator.

The world's first Teletext service, the world's first Colour TV - DAB Radio, in fact, several things we take for granted nowdays were invented by the BBC

passingbat 08-10-2013 16:30

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35629477)
I'm Sorry I haven't a Clue

Maybe we should adopt this as the subtitle of this thread in honour of the BBC? :D:D:D



Quote:

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35629477)
I would gladly pay more of a fee just to stop BBC Three from broadcasting :-)

Occasionally they redeem themselves with such things as Orphan Black.... which many of us have already seen on Netflix. Ooops!

Lew 08-10-2013 16:51

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35629461)
Like 'Strictly come dancing' , 'The Voice' , EastEnders :D

All of which my parents watch. Funny, isn't it? Some people may have other preferences to you. :p:

fenman35 08-10-2013 16:54

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35629451)
I think a reduction in the licence fee, bolstered by advertising and subscription services is the way to go.

I would not want the quality of programming sacrificed by any alternative solution, but I do think the BBC could be run a lot more efficiently. It needs some commercial discipline to achieve this.

Why do you think it is not as efficient as a commercial operation? How much does ITV cost you, its not free you know but paid for by adverts . And where does the advertisers money come from, you and I.

So which is cheaper to the GB public ITV, Ch4 5 or the BBC?

ase001 08-10-2013 17:01

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35629477)
Getting rid of the license fee, would just be ridiculous in my eyes. BBC radio 2,3,4 and 5 are worth the fee on their own. There are many programmes I choose not to watch, but some BBC productions are fantastically well made. The nature programmes, in particular are always extremely watchable and informative. Yes, Eastenders drags the intelligence level straight back down but Only Connect, Mastermind and University Challenge soon sort that out :-). The comedy content alone (forget the excellent dramatizations for a minute) from Radio 4 must get a mention too, such great programmes over the years. Just A Minute and I'm Sorry I haven't a Clue will always be timeless and deserve to be heard for many, many years to come.
A world without the BBC TV and Radio would be a considerably dumber, less comical place.
I would gladly pay more of a fee just to stop BBC Three from broadcasting :-).

Bob on, my sentiments as well:gpoint:

muppetman11 08-10-2013 17:12

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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35629498)
All of which my parents watch. Funny, isn't it? Some people may have other preferences to you. :p:

Absolutely one mans trash is another mans treasure. :D

denphone 08-10-2013 17:16

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35629513)
Absolutely one mans trash is another mans treasure. :D

Or another Ladies treasure.:D

jodash 08-10-2013 17:43

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35629426)
The BBC is not the largest percentage of my viewing, but I think it is important that we have a broadcaster that is not completely controlled by what is popular (i.e. brings in advertising revenue) and caters for minority interests. Sadly the BBC does get swayed a little to much by audience ratings and competing for prime time viewing numbers with ITV, but it is better than having every channel run on programming that is ad revenue driven.

Agreed BBC should forget the ratings and start making quality programmes again

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 17:51

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I think I will wait on more info coming via the BBC about BBC One +1 before posting my own view.

-Will the BBC launch one BBC One +1 channel or will they launch up to four channels - one for England, Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland?
-Will it launch on Virgin Media?

MB HQ thinks if BBC One +1 do launch on Virgin Media it will launch on Virgin Channel 108. With BBC One HD moving to beside BBC TWO HD and BBC ALBA on the Virgin EPG.

Doug P 08-10-2013 17:51

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35629513)
Absolutely one mans trash is another mans treasure. :D

Which is why the Beeb is there to provide a variety of shows across radio and tv.

Let them trounce the X Factor in the ratings on Saturdays. Why not it's good for the morale of the nation!!

RichardCoulter 08-10-2013 18:08

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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35629343)
Most likely, they shut down Bio HD a while back which kind of signals the end of a channel to me.

But it could mean the launch of History HD and CI HD (surprised Lifetime won't get a HD counterpart, seems kind of pointless not launching in HD)

Yes, very odd that they haven't set up an HD version from launch. Wonder why they can't use the former Bio HD capacity?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdf90 (Post 35629405)
BBC One +1 to launch, according to the Director-General.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...one-plus1.html

Excellent news, I never thought that the BBC would do this as the reasons the commercial channels do it is to increase advertising revenue.

passingbat 08-10-2013 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35629522)

Let them trounce the X Factor in the ratings on Saturdays. Why not it's good for the morale of the nation!!

Sorry but this ratings competition on Saturday night is one thing about the BBC that does annoy me. I don't watch either of those shows, but they are popular so why put them head to head? The only people who loose out are the British public.

And as far as I recall, ITV had that reality game show spot with X Factor, before the BBC launched Strictly. The BBC should have picked a different time for Strictly.

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 18:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35629525)
Wonder why they can't use the former Bio HD capacity?

Bio HD capacity is now use for CI HD on Astra.

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New rumour:

FIVE new channels may launch on Virgin Media within the next two weeks.

MB HQ is not posting the names until I get them confirmed by an other Virgin Viewer.

denphone 08-10-2013 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35629526)
Sorry but this ratings competition on Saturday night is one thing about the BBC that does annoy me. I don't watch either of those shows, but they are popular so why put them head to head? The only people who loose out are the British public.

And as far as I recall, ITV had that reality game show spot with X Factor, before the BBC launched Strictly. The BBC should have picked a different time for Strictly.

l agree as in my humble opinion the BBC should not be obsessed with ratings at all as they are there to serve the public and not take on ITV or SKY who are more obsessed with ratings.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35629527)
Bio HD capacity is now use for CI HD on Astra.

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New rumour:

FIVE new channels may launch on Virgin Media within the next two weeks.

MB HQ is not posting the names until I get them confirmed by an other Virgin Viewer.

Oh goody goody more surprises.:hyper::hyper:

passingbat 08-10-2013 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35629480)
The current system of paying for the BBC is broken and needs looking at

Sorry can't agree with that. Any other means involves commercial input that would defeat the whole point of public funded broadcasting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35629480)
I can't, however, accept that I should have to see some of my money be put towards biased, agenda led news

What bias are you talking about?

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35629480)

The BBC should be slimmed down and the licence fee reduced accordingly, not aim to be a behemoth like replacement for those who don't want to subscribe to pay tv.

Completely disagree.

You mean those 10 million who don't want to subscribe to pay TV? ;) Do the ones who subscribe to Pay TV never watch the BBC, use it's catch up or listen to it's radio stations then?

andy_m 08-10-2013 18:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35629522)
Which is why the Beeb is there to provide a variety of shows across radio and tv.

Let them trounce the X Factor in the ratings on Saturdays. Why not it's good for the morale of the nation!!

No. Let them be innovative, experimental, trail blazing etc. I'll pay for that without complaint. They're doing great things with iPlayer, 3D sporting broadcasts, red button, new music etc. When they're on it they lead the way and others follow. But I cannot accept that we pay the licence fee to allow them to produce populist trash in order to compete in a race for ratings. And yes, I accept that some of what I consider trash is another person's (!) treasure, but in almost every case (Eastenders, the Voice) they're trying to compete with free to air broadcasters who got there first - I just can't understand why.

Let them do what they do best, lead the industry in innovation and experimentation, but make sure they remember the responsibility they have to spend our money properly in these areas rather than trying to imitate ad supported broadcasters who need to produce broadly popular programming to increase revenue.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35629541)
Sorry can't agree with that. Any other means involves commercial input that would defeat the whole point of public funded broadcasting.



What bias are you talking about?



Completely disagree.

You mean those 10 million who don't want to subscribe to pay TV? ;) Do the ones who subscribe to Pay TV never watch the BBC, use it's catch up or listen to it's radio stations then?

The bias that the corporation itself has admitted exists and is evident to anybody who has watched a significant amount of it's news output.

passingbat 08-10-2013 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35629545)

The bias that the corporation itself has admitted exists and is evident to anybody who has watched a significant amount of it's news output.

BBC news is the only news channel I watch (can't be doing with the adverts on the other news channels). Can you give me an example of any bias?

nicknewark 08-10-2013 18:55

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Great News all these channels, but there must be a price rise on the Horizon!.

denphone 08-10-2013 19:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknewark (Post 35629557)
Great News all these channels, but there must be a price rise on the Horizon!.

Well if the price rise is only a couple of quid and the rumoured certain channels arrive then l will accept that quite happily.:)

andy_m 08-10-2013 19:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35629552)
BBC news is the only news channel I watch (can't be doing with the adverts on the other news channels). Can you give me an example of any bias?

In that case I'd ask you to consider the next time they report a government initiative. Is the headline factual ie. "Coalition announce plans to remove spare room subsidy from council tenants", or does it betray what they think of the policy ie. "Tory bedroom tax criticised"?

Whatever you think about that specific policy, I'd argue that as the nation's broadcaster, paid for by the licence fee, they have a duty to report factually. All elements of the story should be covered but it shouldn't be presented at the start from either side of the argument.

This is worth a read http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...ve-admits.html

passingbat 08-10-2013 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35629578)


But this is the overall conclusion and it says there is no hint of bias.

Quote:

However, overall the breadth of opinion reflected by the BBC on this subject is broad and impressive, and no persuasive evidence was found that significant areas of opinion are not given due weight today.”
Quote:

The BBC said the report provided some “interesting insight”, but pointed out that, on the whole, its coverage had been found to be “broad and impressive”. The report cost £175,000 to produce.
And Nigel Farage gets loads of exposure these days.

ocav 08-10-2013 19:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35629578)
In that case I'd ask you to consider the next time they report a government initiative. Is the headline factual ie. "Coalition announce plans to remove spare room subsidy from council tenants", or does it betray what they think of the policy ie. "Tory bedroom tax criticised"?

Those headlines have 2 totally different meanings, one means that it is being scrapped, one means it is being criticised.

Do you read a paper? If so is it the Daily Mail?

andy_m 08-10-2013 20:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35629598)
Those headlines have 2 totally different meanings, one means that it is being scrapped, one means it is being criticised.

Do you read a paper? If so is it the Daily Mail?

No, the "removal of the spare room subsidy" is referred to as "the bedroom tax". The headlines mean the same thing. I don't know what your understanding of the bedroom tax is, but it isn't actually a tax where somebody has to pay more, it's a removal of a benefit, where somebody gets given less.

That said, I don't read the Mail, and I honestly wasn't looking to give my opinion here about that specific policy. To be honest, my opinion of it is irrelevant as far as a discussion about the BBC is concerned, and as far as news broadcasting goes I don't mind how Sky News or CNN or whoever dress up their coverage, but from the BBC, the nation's broadcaster, paid for by us through our licence fee, I don't want any dressing. The BBC should be where I go for factual reporting of the highest order. They have a hard won world wide reputation for quality. They deserve that to a certain degree, but they don't get to keep it without working hard to do so. That's the point I'm trying to make.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35629597)
But this is the overall conclusion and it says there is no hint of bias.





And Nigel Farage gets loads of exposure these days.

I said the BBC themselves acknowledged the bias, and so it is the quotes from the person who was in charge of the news output, Helen Boaden, who acknowledged it, that was the salient point of that article, as far as I'm concerned. As far as the report's conclusions are concerned, I would suggest you'd have to question the validity of a report that includes quotes from the person in charge of news output to the effect that the output was biased which then concludes that it wasn't, but perhaps that's just me?

And of course Nigel Farage gets loads of coverage these days - the left will be the big winners if Farage does well and splits the centre right! (Cynical, moi?)

OLD BOY 08-10-2013 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35629456)
Why mess up a system that works very well by adding commercial funding into the mix?

The BBC offers tremendous value for money at the current cost of the licence fee.


I wonder how many of those who complain about the licence fee also download most of the things they watch to avoid paying anything for content?

I don't deny that it would have to be done carefully, but the current arrangements are not sustainable. They have led to the BBC being bloated and wasteful, they compete unfairly with the rival broadcasters and they create tremendous resentment with the licence fee.

There is a better way and it needs to be looked into with the clear objective of ensuring that the BBC does have sufficient money to continue to deliver quality services.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by toady (Post 35629473)
Suddenly this thread is full of Daily Mail readers who want to shut down the BBC by killing off the license fee

I haven't even suggested shutting down the BBC. I want the BBC to continue to operate and offer good programmes. But all is not well with the current arrangements and if the BBC is to survive in the long term, we need to do something about it now.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35629477)
Getting rid of the license fee, would just be ridiculous in my eyes. BBC radio 2,3,4 and 5 are worth the fee on their own. :-).

I respect your view, Harry, but we have to acknowledge that a lot of people don't watch the BBC and resent paying the licence fee.

andy_m 08-10-2013 20:09

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Andrew Marr in 2006 - "The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities, and gay people. It has a liberal bias, not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias."

Andrew Marr!!!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35629614)
I don't deny that it would have to be done carefully, but the current arrangements are not sustainable. They have led to the BBC being bloated and wasteful, they compete unfairly with the rival broadcasters and they create tremendous resentment with the licence fee.

There is a better way and it needs to be looked into with the clear objective of ensuring that the BBC does have sufficient money to continue to deliver quality services.

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I haven't even suggested shutting down the BBC. I want the BBC to continue to operate and offer good programmes. But all is not well with the current arrangements and if the BBC is to survive in the long term, we need to do something about it now.

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I respect your view, Harry, but we have to acknowledge that a lot of people don't watch the BBC and resent paying the licence fee.

This ^^

OLD BOY 08-10-2013 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fenman35 (Post 35629503)
Why do you think it is not as efficient as a commercial operation?

Have you not read the news reports? Sending 15 reporters to a news event when all the other broadcasters send one or two? That is just one example of many reports about the BBC's wastefulness. I, for one, don't want to pay for waste.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35629526)
Sorry but this ratings competition on Saturday night is one thing about the BBC that does annoy me. I don't watch either of those shows, but they are popular so why put them head to head? The only people who loose out are the British public.

And as far as I recall, ITV had that reality game show spot with X Factor, before the BBC launched Strictly. The BBC should have picked a different time for Strictly.

I don't worry about these clashes any more. That's why I have a recorder and make use of the i-Player. I am surprised that so many people still watch so much live TV, particularly on the commercial channels.

andy_m 08-10-2013 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35629621)
Have you not read the news reports? Sending 15 reporters to a news event when all the other broadcasters send one or two? That is just one example of many reports about the BBC's wastefulness. I, for one, don't want to pay for waste.

In fairness, I think things have changed in this regard. I recently spoke to a BBC cameraman at a high profile news event. He said that after the news at 10 he would be driving home, whilst the other broadcasters were in local hotels, and it was now very much the case that he'd say goodbye to commercial colleagues as they entered the first class lounges and then say hello again once they'd landed.

OLD BOY 08-10-2013 20:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35629541)

What bias are you talking about?



The left wing bias, passingbat and it's obsessions such as 'man made climate change'. The BBC is renowned for its neutral news reporting but sadly it's all gone downhill in recent times. One reason why the public service thing doesn't work for me any more.

passingbat 08-10-2013 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35629614)
I don't deny that it would have to be done carefully, but the current arrangements are not sustainable. They have led to the BBC being bloated and wasteful, they compete unfairly with the rival broadcasters and they create tremendous resentment with the licence fee.

.

No one is denying that they need to trim back in certain areas.

How do they compete unfairly with rival broadcasters?

And where is your evidence for the bit I have emboldened?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35629621)

---------- Post added at 19:14 ---------- Previous post was at 19:11 ----------

I don't worry about these clashes any more. That's why I have a recorder and make use of the i-Player. I am surprised that so many people still watch so much live TV, particularly on the commercial channels.

Ah, but haven't you heard; people like to tweet during live shows these days. I don't understand why, but apparently people do. I don't understand why people don't record everything, but people like to watch live.

Paul 08-10-2013 20:33

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This thread is not about the BBC, get back on topic please.

passingbat 08-10-2013 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35629618)
Andrew Marr in 2006 - "The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities, and gay people. It has a liberal bias, not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias."

Andrew Marr!!!

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I'm guessing that most of the media is filled with such people, so is the BBC any different to other news outlets in this respect? A "cultural liberal bias" is the way the whole western world has gone these days, so that aspect is not surprising. It is making sure that they get their facts right and there is no political bias that is important to me.

And don't forget to factor in any personal bias those people expressing their opinions on BBC neutrality may have; even Nigel and Andrew!

vincerooney 08-10-2013 20:43

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Moving on...

Media Boy any potential surprises for us this week to wake up to and smile to? also a series of questions for you

1) how many insiders do you have currently?
2) do you message them or do they message you?
3) if you ever bring news of sky atlantic you must realise many people will propose to you?

Just general questions to move the convo onwards....

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 20:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35629644)
Moving on...

Media Boy any potential surprises for us this week to wake up to and smile to? also a series of questions for you

1) how many insiders do you have currently?

Cant say.

Quote:

2) do you message them or do they message you?
Again cant say.

denphone 08-10-2013 20:48

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The big question is when will these rumoured BomberAF channels arrive and from rumours in the wind hopefully it will be sooner rather then later......

Horizon 08-10-2013 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cdf90 (Post 35629405)
BBC One +1 to launch, according to the Director-General.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...one-plus1.html

Excellent news! Thanks for posting it.

Coupled with a pvr, +1 channels are very handy and there really is no reason to miss your favourite show anymore. All we need now is decent shows!:)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35629418)
Given that Sony have their own TV channel, it makes you wonder why they didn't put it on there. Same with critically acclaimed Damages, which the BBC abandoned. The answer is that unpopular shows don't bring in the advertising revenue.

Netflix came to the rescue in both of those cases.

The Sony channel on VM is on too high of a EPG number, I can't remember its location on Sky. So, it's not just a matter of the US channels having their own channels here too, but their location on the EPGs as well.

harry_hitch 08-10-2013 21:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35629614)
I don't deny that it would have to be done carefully, but the current arrangements are not sustainable. They have led to the BBC being bloated and wasteful, they compete unfairly with the rival broadcasters and they create tremendous resentment with the licence fee.

There is a better way and it needs to be looked into with the clear objective of ensuring that the BBC does have sufficient money to continue to deliver quality services.

---------- Post added at 19:06 ---------- Previous post was at 19:05 ----------

I haven't even suggested shutting down the BBC. I want the BBC to continue to operate and offer good programmes. But all is not well with the current arrangements and if the BBC is to survive in the long term, we need to do something about it now.

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I respect your view, Harry, but we have to acknowledge that a lot of people don't watch the BBC and resent paying the licence fee.

Yup, I would imagine there are some people who do not watch the BBC. Just like a lot of people don't watch Sky channels, or the numerous poor quality TV channels both Sky and VM carry, yet willingly pay for a subscription TV service. I wonder how many people (who do not watch BBC) do not watch any of the various UKTV stations and the numerous BBC repeats they show either? I imagine the number will be very minimal. No license fee would mean the end of those channels too or a considerable worsening in content!

Seriously, it's not just the TV that the licence fee pays for is it. If they listen to any BBC Radio, they will need to pay for that too.

Should there be a separate fee for TV and radio? Probably but it is not an option currently.

Anyway, thanks MB for the info. Lets hope you can give us some good news on what is actually coming soon in the not too distant future!!!!

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 21:24

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2-2-1

denphone 08-10-2013 21:26

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:D

vincerooney 08-10-2013 21:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35629646)
The big question is when will these rumoured BomberAF channels arrive and from rumours in the wind hopefully it will be sooner rather then later......

Bomber!!

I hear that bomber is always watching over us no matter what happens. That's comforting at the least den

denphone 08-10-2013 21:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35629666)
Bomber!!

I hear that bomber is always watching over us no matter what happens. That's comforting at the least den

Old BomberAF got the first one right and my money is on him getting the second one right as well dear chap.:Yes::spin::hyper::waving::omg:

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 21:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35629644)
Media Boy any potential surprises for us this week to wake up to and smile to? also a series of questions for you.

FOX + may launch on Thursday - 40% think it will.

Or Virgin will wait until the other four rumours channel launch within the next two weeks - to add them all in the one go.

But I can reveal that FOX + is coming just do not know when.

HDFootyMan 08-10-2013 21:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cdf90 (Post 35629405)
BBC One +1 to launch, according to the Director-General.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...one-plus1.html

I would prefer a +1 HD version to be honest.

At least this decreases the chances of a tuner clash preventing BBC 1 content from being recorded when using Wishlists.

Bananaman_007 08-10-2013 22:20

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Somebody reporting on Digitalspy that Now thats what i call music is set to launch on Virgin, Freeview and Sky.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...1#post69092711

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 22:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35629683)
Somebody reporting on Digitalspy that Now thats what i call music is set to launch on Virgin, Freeview and Sky.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...1#post69092711

News to me.

Bananaman_007 08-10-2013 22:27

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He directs to a Twitter page that states announcement tomorrow

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 22:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35629688)
He directs to a Twitter page that states announcement tomorrow

It will be 'Now 2013' coming out.

blue666666 08-10-2013 22:37

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sounds like new channels by the end of the month like it :tu:

Media Boy UK 08-10-2013 23:05

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Media Boy update.

-Two HD Channels may launch within the next two weeks.
-One SD Channel may launch within the next two weeks.
-One add on one hour Channel may launch within the next two weeks.
-FOX + will launch on Virgin Media soon (Has appeared on Anywhere some weeks back).
-The new BBC HD Channels will launch on Virgin Media before Christmas.
-An new Asian news channel (News 18) is set to launch on Virgin Media before Christmas.

theone2k10 08-10-2013 23:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35629683)
Somebody reporting on Digitalspy that Now thats what i call music is set to launch on Virgin, Freeview and Sky.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...1#post69092711

Think it's a load of cobblers , for a start i don't think Freeview has anymore space left so that blows his post up straight away.
Now where is that chap with the gun?

alwaysabear 08-10-2013 23:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35629461)
Like 'Strictly come dancing' , 'The Voice' , EastEnders :D

Better still they should shut down BBC daytime TV talk about rubbish:rolleyes:

RichardCoulter 08-10-2013 23:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35629531)
l agree as in my humble opinion the BBC should not be obsessed with ratings at all as they are there to serve the public and not take on ITV or SKY who are more obsessed with ratings.



I agree with you, but I guess that the BBC are afraid that if they repeatedly make programmes that attract low ratings, they will cease to be viewed as relevant and face possibe abolition.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35629653)
Excellent news! Thanks for posting it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35629653)
The Sony channel on VM is on too high of a EPG number, I can't remember its location on Sky. So, it's not just a matter of the US channels having their own channels here too, but their location on the EPGs as well.

I wonder if these US channels will be called 'Virgin Atlantic' :D

Seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me if LG (with their business contacts) have grown impatient with Sky for being unreasonable about the supply of Sky Atlantic and have decided to go down this route Instead.

andy_m 08-10-2013 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35629637)
I'm guessing that most of the media is filled with such people, so is the BBC any different to other news outlets in this respect? A "cultural liberal bias" is the way the whole western world has gone these days, so that aspect is not surprising. It is making sure that they get their facts right and there is no political bias that is important to me.

And don't forget to factor in any personal bias those people expressing their opinions on BBC neutrality may have; even Nigel and Andrew!

The point being that if Andrew Marr, a senior BBC journalist, and a liberal (to put it mildly), says there is a liberal bias at the BBC, and goes on to say that there shouldn't be, then I don't think there can be much argument about whether there is or isn't one. There clearly is, and there clearly shouldn't be. The wider point, and to keep this on topic, is that this discussion stemmed from the information that there is a BBC +1 on it's way. I'm not in favour of the BBC following the crowd with things like this - it should stick to what it does best. iPlayer is brilliant and available across a range of platforms, and the BBC is no stranger to repeats. However much money, even if it's relatively small, is spent on BBC 1+1, will be a waste imo.

JohnR5573 08-10-2013 23:59

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[/COLOR]The Sony channel on VM is on too high of a EPG number, I can't remember its location on Sky. So, it's not just a matter of the US channels having their own channels here too, but their location on the EPGs as well.[/QUOTE]

Why does it matter how high the EPG number is?
If I want to watch a program on any channel the EPG number does not sway my decision in any form whatsoever.
Or am I missing something?

Bananaman_007 09-10-2013 00:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35629700)
Think it's a load of cobblers , for a start i don't think Freeview has anymore space left so that blows his post up straight away.
Now where is that chap with the gun?

He could mean connected TV rather than Freeview. Kind of like how Kiss Magic and Keerrang broadcast on Freeview

jj20x 09-10-2013 00:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35629700)
Think it's a load of cobblers , for a start i don't think Freeview has anymore space left so that blows his post up straight away.
Now where is that chap with the gun?

On Freeview, there is a 24 hour slot and a possible 21 hour slot left on Arqiva A, several part time slots on other commercial multiplexes, 2 pseudo-national slots on the City TV multiplexes and there will be space on the new DVB-T2 multiplexes for HD channels. So you can't really use that argument. Even so, I'd take the report with a pinch of salt until more information becomes available.

RichardCoulter 09-10-2013 05:39

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Originally Posted by JohnR5573 (Post 35629716)
[/COLOR]The Sony channel on VM is on too high of a EPG number, I can't remember its location on Sky. So, it's not just a matter of the US channels having their own channels here too, but their location on the EPGs as well.

does it matter how high the EPG number is?
If I want to watch a program on any channel the EPG number does not sway my decision in any form whatsoever.
Or am I missing something?[/QUOTE]

Broadcasters prefer EPG slots lower down the guide as the theory (which appears to be correct) is that people start channel hopping from the first channel onwards and stop when they find something that they find interesting. Hence, the higher up an EPG number one has, the more likely that viewers will have found something that they want to watch before they reach your channel. Less viewers= less advertising revenue and/or a risk that the platform may decide that a channel with low viewing figures isn't worth keeping (this has actually happened in the past).

So, the EPG position is very important indeed :D

JohnR5573 09-10-2013 08:31

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Ah well fair point.

theone2k10 09-10-2013 12:12

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Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35629718)
He could mean connected TV rather than Freeview. Kind of like how Kiss Magic and Keerrang broadcast on Freeview

Good point. :)

Media Boy UK 09-10-2013 12:50

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Virgin Media remove THREE Channels from 'Total Channels'.

Today I saw that Virgin Media has removed three channels off 'Total Channels' last night.

Just seen on my blog that BBC Red Button 2, BBC Red Button 3 and Blighty was closedown about 90days ago.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35629730)
does it matter how high the EPG number is?
If I want to watch a program on any channel the EPG number does not sway my decision in any form whatsoever.
Or am I missing something?

Broadcasters prefer EPG slots lower down the guide as the theory (which appears to be correct) is that people start channel hopping from the first channel onwards and stop when they find something that they find interesting. Hence, the higher up an EPG number one has, the more likely that viewers will have found something that they want to watch before they reach your channel. Less viewers= less advertising revenue and/or a risk that the platform may decide that a channel with low viewing figures isn't worth keeping (this has actually happened in the past).

So, the EPG position is very important indeed :D

When Cable was just 'areas' Telewest did remove Travel Channel and some others due to low viewing figures.

But Sky do it to.

OLD BOY 09-10-2013 13:26

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Originally Posted by JohnR5573 (Post 35629716)
Why does it matter how high the EPG number is?
If I want to watch a program on any channel the EPG number does not sway my decision in any form whatsoever.
Or am I missing something?

I agree with you, John. I don't obsess about channel numbering, but many certainly do. I have never really understood why people 'channel hop', which is a very lazy way to find programmes and results in you missing some or most of nearly every programme you end up watching, which is a most unsatisfactory experience.

Of course, even the channel hoppers could set their favourites, but I suspect they are far too lazy to do that!

The sad fact is that this is how many people do find the programmes they want to see and this is why the channels themselves like to have a position high up on the EPG.

blue666666 09-10-2013 13:28

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sky sports no longer saying all 6 sports channel in HD exclusive to sky.I know it does't mean much but thought it may be interesting to know

http://www.sky.com/products/tv-packs/sports/

opps does say exclusive on sky shop dam

OLD BOY 09-10-2013 13:32

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35629713)
Seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me if LG (with their business contacts) have grown impatient with Sky for being unreasonable about the supply of Sky Atlantic and have decided to go down this route Instead.

I think that this is a brilliant move by VM if the idea is to access first run programmes through the channel directly rather than purchase programmes individually. Given that VM no longer own any channels of their own, this is clearly the way to go. Brilliant strategy if that is the case!

As for Sky Atlantic, it would appear that this deal is already pretty well done and it should be on VM this autumn, along with the other missing Sky channels. I hope that the new found co-operation with Sky is a long term thing and not just a flash in the pan.


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