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The upstream was already wibbly.
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You're not getting any timeouts. I wouldn't loose any sleep over it. OK it's not ideal but if the connection's stable what the hell?
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Downstream Acquisition Locked Primary Frequency 299000000 Hz DHCP Complete TFTP Complete Time Of Day 18:14:42 Security Enabled Counters T1,T2,T3,T4,Sync,Resets 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0 Internet Connection IP Address Status Lease Time Remaining 6 days 20:43:47 Expiry Sun 30 Nov 14:58 Current Network Time Sun 23 Nov 18:14 Downstream Channels Lock Status Channel ID Frequency Modulation Rx Power SNR Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors Locked 53 299000000 Hz QAM256 4.4 dBmV 39.9 dB 1455 74 Locked 49 267000000 Hz QAM256 3.7 dBmV 39.9 dB 1833 281 Locked 50 275000000 Hz QAM256 3.8 dBmV 39.9 dB 1809 197 Locked 51 283000000 Hz QAM256 3.2 dBmV 39.9 dB 1370 12 Locked 52 291000000 Hz QAM256 3.6 dBmV 39.8 dB 1093 1 Locked 54 307000000 Hz QAM256 4.8 dBmV 39.9 dB 1323 5 Locked 55 315000000 Hz QAM256 4.2 dBmV 39.9 dB 968 2 Locked 56 323000000 Hz QAM256 3.7 dBmV 39.9 dB 887 0 Upstream Channels Lock Status Channel ID Frequency Modulation Tx Power Mode Channel Bandwidth Symbol Rate Locked 4 37600000 Hz ATDMA 53.3 dBmV 16QAM 6400000 20480 Kbits/sec Locked 5 31000000 Hz ATDMA 54.3 dBmV 16QAM 6400000 20480 Kbits/sec Unlocked 0 0 Hz Unknown 0.0 dBmV Unknown Unknown 0 Kbits/sec Unlocked 0 0 Hz Unknown 0.0 dBmV Unknown Unknown 0 Kbits/sec ---------- Post added at 18:18 ---------- Previous post was at 18:15 ---------- ------------------------------------------------- what should the wireless mode be set at? |
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Virgin media doing work on our Upstreams today
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Thanks for keeping us up to date on your node.
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Just wondering why is the upstream locking down on to US3 US4 and not US1 and US4
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So last night I phone virgin media as am sick of all the problems my broadband is having in the last 4 weeks and got a very nice lady who gave me a refund on the broadband for this month. But still getting slow speeds :(
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You've had a few disconnections for sure!
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Upstream US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4 Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0 Channel ID 1 N/A N/A 2 Frequency (Hz) 37600000 N/A N/A 31000000 Ranging Status Success Other Other Success Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A 16QAM Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000 Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4 Power Level (dBmV) 50.00 N/A N/A 50.00 T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0 T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0 T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0 T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0 |
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Linky's are not working.
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Uddingston is run by the PG Tips Monkeys.... You have no idea the problems I have faced over the last 6 years, it is almost laughable.
But I am on a good deal for my package, very good deal. So can't grumble too much. But keep getting t3s now and again, which is a bit annoying, and some RS errors on 2 channels more than the rest which may very well be the result of the t3s. Not in the millions like years ago... damn that was a bad bad time. But the best ever CSR was this lady 2 years ago... who told me my 250GB download for the month was excessive... I almost fell of my seat. You would think they would be trained to know excessive limits. |
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250GB the last 4 years is nothing, considering the avg game size (AAA) was around 9GB anyway, and then you have Netflix etc for streaming stuff.
So yeah 250GB is easily done. |
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Put it into the context of Joe Average user rather than Geek user and you can see why she made the comment she did. |
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Or buy games and replay them from Steam?
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I think qas's point is that 20x games downloads per month seems unlikely, regardless if they're new games or games you currently own.
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That's true, I wasn't trying to imply high usage wasn't "legitimate". Simply pointing out that ten minutes of video can use up more bandwidth than twelve hours heavy use of web browsing, gaming, email, or even audio streaming.
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Ohh well I've misunderstood a bit I think. But yes, Data usage will increase, shocking revelation for some ISP's, it seems.
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And when you force Steam to find the HDD to find the games installed, it will then update AAA titles no doubt, and whatever else it picked up off the HDD. You know that scenario is silly. What about people who buy Blu-ray quality movies from Playstation store etc and have download a massive 20GB+ per movie? 250GB is gone easily in less than a day, at speeds just now just over 1 minute = 1GB at top speeds from VM. Would anybody be doing it all the time no.. of course not.. but the point is, I don't like the way advisers are instantly doing the you are a heavy user when you call to see what is up with the network, like it is your fault and you are bad.... they should focus on the multiple TB users who sit on torrents seeding and peering all day long. |
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People will download it play it if they really like it, after a few days they finished it, and then delete it, with the option in the future to download and play again. Lets not talk about silly scenarios that wouldn't happen shall we Qas. ---------- Post added at 12:35 ---------- Previous post was at 12:31 ---------- Quote:
I was replying to Qas silly suggestion. Please do read the full conversation first :) It is easy to download 200GB in 4-5 hrs with a good constant 17MB/s if you have the top speed on offer and you can get it. Even at half the speed up to 10hrs. There is plenty of people who act like a seedbox and download everything, because they sell the stuff to their mates etc, so all the movies, albums and games are constantly grabbed and seeded because most are on tough torrent sites where a good sharing ratio is needed to stay there. |
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Also anyone that serious about downloading wouldn't be torrenting the stuff. In any case, only a handful of people are going to be that bad. I consider myself a fairly heavy downloader and according to Virgin, I only downloaded ~850GB between August and December. |
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Talk about getting away from upstream channel discussion :D
My connection been fine so any work either haven't started on my part of Uddingston or its finished which I don't think as still on 16QAM and this never changed. |
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So about dem upstream channels...
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Yeah they are rubbish from Uddingston :\
Always T3 errors now and again unfortunately. |
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Had some work done on CMTS am on but don't know what it means
I asked over on the VM forum and this is the reply I got I've checked that ticket reference and I can see it relates to FPM work. It says you were put on to FPM2. It was done on a node by node basis. I'm no network guru but I believe it stands for forward path matrix. Maybe someone else can shed more detail on this. The one you provided was linked to your CMTS but not cable. Your cable was done on reference C00684703 but it was the same work anyway. |
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It's nothing interesting. Routine stuff. Doesn't in and of itself affect service.
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My Broadband is down and the repair time is shocking
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I would imagine that's a noise ticket and your fault is unrelated but they are presuming it is
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yeah, I have seen stupid estimates like that before where they don't know what the problem is and they give themselves a tonne of leeway just in case. I wouldn't be surprised if it got fixed in the early of the morning.
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Virgin are saying it a fiber cable that has been damaged temporary fix has been done. And look like they will completely fix it next week waiting on council to give permission to do some digging
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it happened to me a couple of years ago. I hate India because on the once in a blue moon I have to call them they manage to do my head in but I have always praised VM because 99.999% of the time my connection is rock solid. It died a couple of years ago (network fault) and they gave a fix time of three days time because they needed some parts but they managed to get it fixed at 4am that night.
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That's a very rapid fix, even a temporary one, for a fibre break. Impressive service.
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Reason I ask is a few years back we had a power cut to the whole street which seemed to take out the street cab too (no sync once our power came back up) couple hours later there was a VM guy at the cab, this was about 11PM and about half an hour later everything was back up and running. |
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I'm wondering if you can help as it seems to involve the Uddingston UBR. I don't think my internet is working the way it should. When playing CSGO sometimes players warp on the screen and it has been like this for a few months now. I've been getting similar trace routes to the one below, always with the hops after Uddingston timing out. Any ideas? Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.246.93] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 25 ms 15 ms 15 ms cpc82427-dumb5-2-0-gw.20-3.cable.virginm.net [86 .5.172.1] 2 14 ms 14 ms 12 ms uddi-core-2a-ae9-610.network.virginmedia.net [80 .3.16.189] 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 19 ms 34 ms 23 ms nrth-bb-1c-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254 .42.222] 7 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253. 174.18] 8 24 ms 31 ms 24 ms pos6-1.rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.237] 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 24 ms 27 ms 28 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93] 11 26 ms 28 ms 27 ms 132.185.255.165 12 22 ms 20 ms 18 ms bbc-vip014.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.93] Trace complete. |
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No idea about your CSGO warping, except to say that it's not demonstrated on this trace route. Data will move differently to pings. Cable in general has more jitter than VDSL/BT. For gaming you're probably on the wrong ISP. |
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So fed up with this area, The phone is now playing up fix time February 1
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And so it continues we now have downstream overutilization.
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Moved from VM to BT when FTTC went live in my area. headline speed is 79/19 nothing like VM can offer but alot less headaches at peak times and alot better for gaming online ping dropped from anywhere between 18 to 30 on VM with random spikes of 30+ jitter to 15-16ms with less than 1 jitter. Most likely because in this area VM has had a hard monopoly on since cable was installed as its 2.8km from nearest exchange and adsl services were poor.
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Now on 16 downstream in uddingston
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load balancing problems at our CTMS and the fix date for this has been set to december the 6th
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December would be about right for the amount of work that is required to deploy new CMTS chassis at this site, if load balancing is the issue then it will be since the migration to the CBR8's and there is no more options for node splits. Hang tight, the works to remedy this are enormous but will be worth it in the end.
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Thanks, weesteev
Yes this all started about a week after we were moved to the new CBR8 last april but it was raised up to networks in january this year. |
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Received notice of work that will be done at the end of october, Hopefully this will fix this
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Your area has run out of RF spectrum and probably needs more upstream capacity too. They will be replacing amplifiers and any older optical nodes in the area with shiny new 1.2 GHz down, 85 MHz field upgradable to 200 MHz up kit.
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I got the same letter this morning ... except work in my area is being done on the 11th iirc! .... South Shields :angel:
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Bit strange as just along the road in Newcastle / Gateshead we've generally been fine, even in Heaton where it's full of students, I suspect they've invested heavily in keeping that area congestion free. |
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Actually another thought too - might be no room in headend for optical transmitters so they're replacing nodes with RemotePHY nodes. Improves performance and reduces kit required in the hubsite. |
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Maintenance has been done and no improvements
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I wouldn't expect to see any yet.
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More Maintenance today Now on 24 Downstreams & 2 Up
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Network Performance looks good again
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Looks like more work is being done as received this email today, old fix time was 2017-12-06
Hello, You have asked us to keep you up to date on the problem which is affecting your Telephone and TV service(s). Fault Ref: F005003790 The latest update is: Our engineer is on site and they're working to fix the problem We now expect to have this resolved by 2017-12-13 T 00:00:00 The Virgin Media Team |
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I'll be shocked if that's fixed this year.
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Update: So got this email to say it has all been fixed but it has not sadly
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Looks like more work being done on the Upstream still on 2
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Looks like work to upgraded from 32 downstream channels to 36 has happened in parts of uddingston.
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