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I believe he's on about the boxes you could buy from certain websites that, once you 'modified' them, you received ALL the channels that VM output (all you needed was the basic tv subscription). These boxes were sent to the graveyard when VM changed their encryption.

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Lots wished they had a tivo box (in their dreams)...now they have them

:D

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Eh, VM have been increasing revenue by launching TiVo and increasing their prices each year. The stuff you are on about was quite a while ago now and didn't bring in much additional revenue.

I still maintains that no deal has been done yet but will be in time for the football season

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I'd be very surprised if VM get BT sports free on the XL pack, and along with Sky Atlantic too! If it's true, then happy days, but i'll only believe it when and if it appears on the EPG.

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You are not getting it free you are getting it as part of the XL subscription.

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Yes it was but it still increased VM revenue substantially, loads of people were using dream boxes.

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If all that has been rumoured on here in the last few days becomes true then exciting times for VM :)

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I'm a bit like that with full stops.

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And I'm like it with poor grammar, and people who put large chunks of text with no or little punctuation and either all in small letters or capitals. Drives me mad.

Be pleased if we get BT but not so happy with Atlantic. Still, it might shut some people up if we get Atlantic.

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Thanks for answering my questions a page or so back!

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To my mind, BomberAF comes across very credibly. The information he's passing on, however? I agree it sounds almost too good to be true. I look forward to seeing how it pans out. Cableforum might just have a little scoop on their hands!

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:hyper::hyper:

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There are lots of channels that get added that I will never ever watch, but I'm happy for the people that do watch them.


I don't get your attitude on this, unless you think that VM should only pay for channels that you like?

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I was talking from a personal viewpoint. Same as I wouldn't be too worked up if someone was to post here saying they wouldn't want the BT sports lot to come. Each to their own, I PERSONALLY wouldn't watch anything on Atlantic so it would seem a waste to me. Ditto it would seem a waste to others who don't like sport but Virgin got the BT Sports channels.

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LOL, well said.

Honestly, it's not like we are writing to the Queen is it? This is an internet forum:rolleyes:

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Thanks BomberAF for the news.

i am not going to get into 'believe' or 'not believe' argument or have a go at you. I appreciate you taking the time to share the info and have no reason to dispute what you say.

Like most VM customers i hope this happens but shall wait until we get the official announcement before i pop the champagne however.

This would be really exciting news though. After the recent new channel launches and more HD content to get SA (even if just SD at first) and BT Sports for the same price as we have been paying, or even a minimal increase of £1 or £2 per month, would be a big boost for VM and would surely shut up even the most vocal critics of VM out there. (Well ok probably not 'cos there always be something for people to moan about i suppose)

For me packages come down to value for money and what is proposed offers that imo and credit to VM if this happens.

There would not really that much left that Sky have that VM dont. Not that much to make people want to jump ship anyway.

If Universal HD comes (which has been rumoured for some time) that would be great. from a personal view.

We may even get Sky Sport News HD at some point. Only leaves Sky Sports 3 & 4 HD left and that is ultimately down to Sky if they wish to keep them for themselves- oh and MGM maybe.

VM bashers may need to find a new pastime

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Trust me when I say if his information is correct and Sky Atlantic plus BT Sport are to be added to XL without a massive increase you may see me back as a cable customer sooner than you thought that said generally when something sounds to good to be true it...........:)

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but itk is not a well known acronym.

so my issue is not with the grammar, but with actually understanding what the meaning is

unless of course itk is so well known, we can discount any other meaning

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and here are some
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/ITK

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Same here, especially if I can get my first 6 months for half price!

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Ok, I was joking about the full stops, but if we really must get in to this then it's second in your link to the world famous (i feel the need to point out that this is also a joke) Canadian Inuit association and my post was in response to somebody who had spent the previous few pages telling us he was in the know. More to the point, you actually knew what I meant!

I also feeI the need to state that I have nothing against Canadian Inuits.

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Also internetslang.com has it as I used it. So there <pokes tongue out and blows raspberry>.

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I equally have nothing against canadians, inuit or not

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BT Vision sucks.

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:D

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1st August is a Thursday so good day to launch as virgin media often launch channels on Tuesday and Thursday if the op is wrong about sky Atlantic and bt sports then you will be one hated person.

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I think it's worth pointing out (I'm sure we've all looked!) that BomberAF has been a member of Cableforum since 2009, mainly confining his posts to the internet related threads. Unless his account has been hacked, and without knowing him or his personality, I can't think why he'd want to come on here and make it all up. I genuinely think he is credible.

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Upon reflection, I fear the VM bashing will continue. Esp. if Chad's statement about a new Sky exclusive channel launching is true. (I believe BomberAF also alluded to it in one of his posts - about VM not paying premium prices for SA because Sky would not guarantee against new exclusive channels launching.) We probably will get SA in Aug, but it will be pretty pointless if Sky put all the new content on another channel we wont get. The bashing will just begin again for said channel, and continue for Universal HD and the missing sports in HD:)

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I tend to agree andy_m, unless he intends to delete his account and/or wants a load of abuse come Aug 1st.;)

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Sky Atlantic is going to stay the same as always, The content will remain the same. Sky sell its non premium channels to VM wholesale not individually, so VM will get Atlantic as part of the deal Sky and VM have. VM customers are also Sky customers so sky does also have to offer VM customers a good quality service as much as it does its own. You will also find that VM do make money from Sky's channels but it makes the larger chunk of its profits from broadband and line rental and also services like Tivo. Don't get me wrong VM does not provide Sky's channels to VM customers out of the goodness of its heart.

I am not looking for a bashing, a bashing is not what I will get. I had information that I thought I would share with you, as an impasse had arisen.

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I am inclined to believe Bomberaf. Over the past year VM have devalued the XL package and losing ESPN would further do this. They need something major to add to the XL line up apart from a few +1 and HD channels and i think that BT Sport will be it. A lot of people (myself included) are looking closely at the XL pack and thinking what advantage does it bring over L and is that enough to justify the price difference.

As pointed out by others BT are going to want the channel on as many platforms as possible and having it in the XL package on VM will guarantee them revenue.

Sky Atlantic is a very similar situation. Not many new shows starting over the next 3 months with it being the slow Summer period so to keep viewer levels on the channel opening it up to VM subscribers who will be seeing a lot of the show for the first time will do that.

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Atlantic will only be any good if it is HD, I have an extremely expensive award winning tv, the up scaling on it is as good as it gets, but I watched boardwalk empire and game of thrones in HD and it is stunning, probably just as stunning to watch for the filming than for the content, no amount of line doubling and trickery will reproduce that detail and clarity.

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Oh and pro logic II isn't a patch on Dolby 5.1 either.

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Atlantic will be launched in full HD, as will BT sport. The other channels that aren't HD will more than likely stay that way.

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You sure? I would expect BT Sport to be HD but would be very surprised (but delighted) to see us get Sky Atlantic in HD too.
I've got some contacts at VM and Sky, and they've not said anything about an Atlantic deal but expect BT Sport for August 1st, although there's no word as to any additional cost for us punters yet.

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Hm, interesting, well we should find out pretty soon.

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Like I have said I am not coming on here for credit or to cause an annoyance, I have come on here to divulge some information to you. Come August 1st both BT sport and Sky Atlantic will be on VM as part of the XL package. They will both be in HD, I don't expect you to not question me, but I will now post no more but mark my words that before August they will both be announced at the same time.

The reason the Atlantic one may have come as a bit of a surprise is because VM are going to use it as a big PR boost with its customers. Announcing BT Sport and Sky Atlantic to be arriving as part of the XL package, would be a very big PR boost to keep its customers happy.

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Thanks Rob, sry about posting it in here, my error.

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I want to ask a question and anyone can answer it.

IF, VM sign up to carry two sports channels for BT Sports(an example), and have a contract for two years. Then approx a a couple of months later, BT decide that they will carry a further sports channel - then would that third channel automatically go onto the VM system, or would it have to wait till the contract is up before adding the third one.

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Well, I for one will be well chuffed if this is true.

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Good point.

BT sport open new channel, put all the games there.

Leave BT 1 and 2 for scottish football, and other minority sports. And ESPN for fa cup football.

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Good to see someone happy if it happened

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Some posters just want this to happen so much that they will take any obscure suggestion that the channels could appear as confirmation that the deal is done and they will arrive. Other posters are more reluctant to believe anything until it happens and will treat leaks as unconfirmed rumours. There have been many stories of channels about to appear "leaked" onto these threads in the past which have failed to materialise, so a degree of suspicion is to be expected. Another problem is that you haven't established a track record for providing this sort of information, so many will take what you are saying with a pinch of salt.

August 1st will be here soon enough and we will all get to see if these channels do actually arrive. That's when you will start to establish your reputation for reliability.

Interesting times...

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would say vast majority of VM customers be very happy if it happens and make VM even better value than sky

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I would imagine they would have problems filling an additional channel without acquiring more sports rights. I'm not so sure that there's that much more for them to bid for in the short term.

BT have stated that channels are being sold as a package and not individually, so that would suggest that any additional channels would also be added as a part of that package.

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Although I said I wasnt going to post I will post once more. I am not looking to be a regular leaker of information this is just a one off, media boy will continue to be the regular man in the know.

Like you say August 1st will be here soon enough, but you won't have to wait that long it will announced sooner.

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I think bom cf is talking utter rubbish and he is loving the attention I think none of this is going to happen but hey if it does I will eat my shorts and I bet he sends more info .....

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What are you talking about?! H&C would be great to see on VM; something new. But personally, I would fancy JML, Holiday & Cruise and more>movies/+1

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What are you talking about!?

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Kinda thinking that myself!

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I will certainly be extremely happy if this comes to pass!:D

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Sorry Bomber, I meant that comment in a light hearted manner. I appreciate you giving us the info:-)

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And so will l so fingers crossed that all the rumours are true.:)

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I asked about if anyone heard anything about the following channels launching?

Horse and country
pop girl
disney hd
disney xd hd
mgm hd

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I see Drama has launched on Freeview, quite surprised it hasn't on VM.

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Lets hope it arrives soon.

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I would like Virgin to maybe focus on developing a dynamic EPG. It's a joke that SKY can have one but Virgin can't. Surely a TiVo box would be able to handle a dynamic EPG.

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Oh, and I hope they get Drama launching soon.

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Yes it would be nice to have a dynamic EPG but remember the TiVo has many more strengths that the other STB's can only dream about.

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Has MediaBoy said anything about BT and Atlantic since BomberAF posted:confused: Haven't noticed him since Bomber's exclusive:confused::confused:. Is BomberAF actually MB working undercover? Has Bomber kidnapped MB and is pumping him for information??? If BT and Atlantic don't launch in VM on 1st August will we be forming a posse and burning BomberAF???? If we don't hear from MB soon someone should contact the authorities, or has he just gone on his holidays?

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MB put something that he has exclusive news about a broadcaster on Virgin that he cant announce yet the other day...

If BT and Atlantic dont arrive on the 1st im sure BomberAF will have to go into hiding!

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No, Horse and Country and Pop Girl are the most likely to arrive, but for POP Girl a deal would have to be done with CSC Media, there are a lot of channels they have that VM dont. (see MBs Own By)

Disney and MGM have a little coup with Sky, so they may not arrive soon. MGM/BSkyB dont have have any channels on VM at the moment, however the carriage agreement for Disney etc will have to come for an agreement to be made for the Disney HD Channels

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I agree. VM seem very stubborn about not providing such a basic function. Thankfully Freeview also provides a dynamic EPG.

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I am happy to have a DEPG, providing there is the ability to turn it off. DEPGs have advantages, but also some drawbacks.


I could be mistaken, but I thought there was a post on the VM Tivo forums that suggested that if VM did introduce a DEPG to Tivo, you would not be able to disable it. I wouldn't be happy with that.

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Oh yes I agree the TiVo has strengths that SKY don't have on their SKY+ boxes. However, a dynamic EPG would give Virgin and the TiVo box yet one more plus point.

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MyVirginMedia is down, maybe they are intergrating a way for BT to add sports to your account like via an API (if BomberAF is wrong)

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But do we know that the way Tivo operates is actually compatible with a dynamic EPG? The EPG seems to be downloaded in a sort of batch mode, generally overnight - could it handle frequent real time changes, with knock on impacts on recording clashes, series links etc. etc. without impacting on performance?

Certainly the BCC in particular were up to their old tricks during Wimbledon swapping things between channels at short/no notice (for no good reason - evidently nobody these days has a BBC1 only 405 line BW set). But other than that, is it really such a problem?

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my.virginmedia is down every other hour.

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working fine here

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never had a problem myself

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Slight exaggeration, but basically every day after midnight it goes to ship.

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Well after all the rumours of yesterday it's a bit quiet in here today...

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What I wanna see on cable in the near future.

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As my Dad says ' No news is good news'.;)

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Your Dad is a wise man ;)

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Indeed it is most revered master.:)

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It actually does stack up logically - wether it does in reality is another matter. I predicted this a while back, so it would be nice if it all works out! :)

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Muppetman11, could you please explain where you think the potential massive increase would come from? From using a bit of logic, and of course Bomber's recent revelations, it would make no sense that I can see to increase the price of the XL TV package when adding these channels.

The trade off of sports channels is a straight swap - ESPN for BT Sports. And Atlantic has definitely passed it's "unique selling point" best by date. And from what many forum members will tell you, it's of no interest to them, so VM won't get away with charging extra to add it.

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Except ESPN wanted guaranteed revenue and BT wants broadband customers.

Also Atlantic hasn't past its USP date as this thread is basically the 'When is Sky Atlantic coming?' thread, so people clearly want it and having an exclusive on something people want is a selling point.

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MB I am your father lol

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That's because come 1st August we will have everything we have ever wanted. Signing off.....forever :D

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no we wont we wont have the missing sky sports HD channels

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Why what is happening to Rupert:confused:

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And it has also launched on Sky, apparently.

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BT will gain some new BB customers, undoubtedly, but again that period will soon come to an end and they'll need to ensure revenue from all available providers.

You're right re Atlantic - I should say that it's past its USP date from Sky's selling point, with the exception of harvesting new viewers, not customers, through other providers. The gains would come through increase in VM's TV XL subs (plus those from BT Vision if they're included) and possibly advertisting revenue?

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August 1st is when they rebrand Sky Atlantic to Sky Atlantic 2

and Pick TV is rebranded Sky Atlantic.

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I assume this is just a joke and not factual in any way! ;)

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Is it though I'm not so sure , ESPN were a broadcaster who wanted their channel to reach as many platforms as possible , BT on the other hand are using their sports channel to entice people to bring their landline/BB back to them , their selling the channel direct on Sky its free if you have their BB or £12 if you do not.

I'm not saying it won't be included in XL however I do still favour it being at an additional cost but that's just my opinion , I'm happy to be proven wrong if Bombers info is correct it certainly will be a good deal.

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I just want the box to record the programmes I want when they are on, even if programmes run early or late etc.

Was over 18 months of having the Tivo before I even bothered to try out a wishlist, and just seems a novelty and soon wore off. Other things on the Tivo are mostly gimmick and the apps are clunky too.

So in over 2 years of having the Tivo other than having 3 tuners, nothing special, I'd be quite happy with the Sky+HD box, just would rather it had 3 tuners.

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Well, Muppetman11, we'll hopefully see you back at cable soon! ;) :p:

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Except they are undoubtedly using the sports channels to attract new customers to BT Infinity. The will want to keep attracting more customers as they expand the service across the country. Their roll-out schedule shows that some exchanges won't be upgraded until 2015 and they haven't all been added to the schedule yet, so that period probably won't come to an end any time soon.

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:D:naughty::nworthy::clap::nutter:

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Which is a long term implementation period - sosurely they'll need /want to recoup some of their sports investment sooner? Perhaps they'll see how it goes and may add something extra to entice new customers at a later date.

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One of the best novelties I've ever had. I use it for actors/actresses/musicians, films I want to see and forthcoming shows that haven't found a UK broadcaster yet or aren't on the EPG and thus can't have a series link set for them. Shows from the past that I've previously missed also go on a wishlist.


Having had Whishlist functionality, I would find it hard to live without.

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I agree - when used correctly, the Wishlist and recording feature is excellent and hard to live without!

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I just like series links that work, both Sky+ with the 'New' problem and the V+ with another labelling problem are absolutely useless.

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I use "never miss" on sky. Quite handy

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Not if the sports investment is a long term recruitment plan.

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If they had a 1gb V+ box with 3 tuners that would have done me.

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Dont you mean a 1TB Drive in V+, as this would defeat the purpose of having a superior Tivo with the 1TB Drive within it capiabilities. ;)

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Any more news on the launch of MTV classics and nat geo wild HD seems to gone quiet on these channels

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Just got a tweet back from VM, as I had asked them if they had heard the rumours about Atlantic, they have tweeted that that the rumour mill was doing overtime, and that they can't say either way at the moment!.

I guess it's wait and see.

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:Yikes::D

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Perhaps it is MB?

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No updates.

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If the rumours about BT Sports coming to VM on the XL package are true, then good news for VM customers. :D

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Totally agree however last year we, as I was a Virgin customer last year, where duped big time in terms of channel launches. So many raised hopes that turned out to be false.

Let's see what the 1st August brings. Keep your expectations low, that way if Virgin do deliver it'll be like Christmas on here.

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£20 Bomber is Virgin staff.

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I am OK.

Bomber AF is in no way part of Media Boy family.

Media Boy is 7 years old on July 19th.

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Virgin Media close their office in Liverpool last year.