Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

... and your point is? :confused:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

So what you are saying is that both companies have a hit rate of around 50% of possible customers. The other thing to consider is that it can only make Sky's figures worse if Virgin extended to cover all of the UK.

No point just trying cast Virgin Media in a bad light again.

J

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

What is your point here as all l see here is another totally useless Sky bias posting.:rolleyes:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

I think he is a previous poster called TV, look at TV's posts and then look at Bogof's posts, there exactly the same.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Certainly looks like it

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

If i am proved wrong at a later date i will apologise but at the moment his posts read nearly word for word of those of a previous poster called TV.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Don't worry your pretty little head about it.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

You're wrong, apology accepted.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

This has been said a number of times. Sky could supply services to 25 million homes and have over about 10.5 million customers. Vm could supply services to 12 million homes and have about 4.8 million customers. The big difference is in those 12 million homes VM compete with Sky, BT and every other tom dick and harry, whreas Sky do not have VM as a competitor in 13 million homes that they could potentiallly serve.

Looking at it like that you can see what a great job VM have done. I appreciate that they have an off net product but they simply do not push this - have you ever seen an advert?

So Bogof post is complete garbage actually all of his posts are!

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

I have not given you one.

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There exactly the same has his previous posts ;)

---------- Post added at 20:06 ---------- Previous post was at 20:05 ----------

I think you need to learn to read. I said

At the moment there is no proof i am wrong.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

20 Million customers, 34 million homes passed.
ONCE they own Virgin Media it will be 25 million customers, 47 million homes passed
Sky have 10.7m customers, available to 28m homes in 2 countries

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Why wouldn't they do well for many years they've had BB speeds Sky could only dream about , going back a couple of years they'd people on speeds such as 10mb , 20mb and 50mb when the average ADSL user was probably managing around 4-5mb , the next few years will be interesting with Sky now being able to deliver Unlimited Fibre to a larger footprint that's expanding day by day and BT Vision set to shake its TV service up and offer trully unlimited Fibre BB.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Agree with you, the post was in response to Bogofs post earlier

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Considering Sky were trying to compete with Virginmedias 50mb offering when all sky could offer was maybe 5Mb. Now Sky have a real chance of matching and beating Virginmedias speeds it will be interesting to see how the next year pans out. Virginmedia also had ondemand, iplayer 3 tuners etc etc. So sky weren't doing to badly. Also the a few million households that can't have sky for various reasons.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

That is the difference now. VM got their foot in customers doors when there were no other fibre broadband options. Now that has changed with many providers able to offer fibre. Most of the alternative fibre providers sell broadband connections that have almost double the upload speed of virgins top product and with cloud based consumerism getting larger, upload speeds are going to be very important.

So customer numbers from the past may have no bearing on the future. All the data pointed towards virgin being the loser in the next few years, so Liberty Global are either brave or stupid :p:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

If "all the data" points that way, one would wonder why Liberty Global have made a £15 billion bid - could it be their extensive teams of industry analysts might have a different view?

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

The idiots, if only they had you advising them.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

:tu:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

So to sum this recent "debate" up Liberty are a two bit, johnny come lately company. That do not understand the cable business what so ever. Clearly are throwing money down the pan. And are run by a bunch of fools.
In conclusion They really need to study the informed comments made by some of the well informed posters on this site:erm:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

The usual suspects attacking the poster like a pack of starving rabid dogs and the best they can do is some un-funny sarcasm? Boring!

If all the virgin staff are happy and 'buzzing' about this buyout as some staff have said in this thread, one can take from that they knew virgins future was heading towards a ditch so the Liberty Global cash injection was needed.

Companies sometimes buy others for less obvious and nefarious reasons. No one here knows the real reasons for the purchase. The TV side is obvious but the broadband magnet it had before is going to be in decline and its technological limits making it less competitive in the future. So one would hope Liberty are not just moving cash around or using the Virgin buyout for other reasons..

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Excuse me Sir but Virgin Media were perfectly safe before any takeover and they are perfectly safe with a takeover so yet again your wild claims are unsubstantiated yet again l am afraid.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

That is a wild and unsubstantiated claim from someone with no inside knowledge. Making an opinion sound like fact does not make it fact, even if you have a strange infatuated blind love for the company you are making the claims about.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Pot, Kettle?

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

I was going to reply but really can't be bothered with his views any more. He clearly didn't see the q4 results and reckons he knows better than Liberty who have been in this business for years. Think he also said something about posting numbers to get stupid shareholders to buy more shares?

Looks like they wern't stupid after all looking at what they the price they are being bought for.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Liberty purchased VM as they are a large cable company doing very well and in a country that they don't have any service in. So now they do and it will boost their portfolio majorly.

Thats the short and straight forward answer.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

and in addition.

they have similar business models, and there may be synergies in procurement, and other areas, were they may be able to save some money.

Being the largest cable company in Europe, certainly helps your buying power.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

It does indeed help their portfolio but the statement that virgin was doing very well is more than questionable.

The last quarter saw an extremely aggressive retentions department trying to stop customers leaving as if their life depended on it. There are numerous reports of this and lies being told simply to stop customers from leaving. Experienced this first hand too and the lies virgin staff told was shocking. That same last quarter virgin moved the "Thinking of leaving us" option from their phone system and hid it away under "Thinking of moving house". That option had been in their menu system in the same place for years but hiding it away under an option you would not necessarily choose if you just wanted to terminate your connection was in my opinion desperation toi stop more customers leaving.

So tactics like that to make a quarters results look a certain way but the underlying problems are there still. Like the limitations of virgins broadband technology. Even talktalk offers a faster upload speed than virgin and I don't see virgin competing in a cloud environment future due to this. Already they are losing ground here and adding on more traffic management will push customers over to fibre alternatives like BT and Sky which have no traffic management or limits/thresholds or whatever.

The bottom line is taking quarter results as a sign that a company will do well in the future is just plain silly. You have to look at the whole picture. Look at how virgin have been broke and not able to invest in their network properly, look at how they have worded quarterly statements differently between quarters to hide worse figures, look at how the landscape is changing and where virgins weaknesses are.

Virgin were doing average at best. Without being brought out recently, I would have predicted them out of the game in around 2 years.

Even the biggest companies go out of business and up until that point they are trying to convince the world they are ok and doing well ;)

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

if there are numerous reports then let's have few links?
like what?

Have you ever tried to doowngrade your sky package?

Go onto their website and try and find where says how to do it?

Good luck.

What technological limitations would they be?

That's just it, you don't take a quarters results you take 6 years of results.

Increasing revenues
Decreasing debt
Increasing share price

That is so laughable, that I'm still laughing, and will probably continue laughing for most of the day.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

You are doing the very thing you've just had a go a denphone for apparently doing.

1) The ARPU per customer went up last quarter (again). If the retentions department were as agressive as you say then I'd expect the ARPU to have gone down.

2) The 'Thinking of leaving us' option was made less obvious due to the fact that the majority of people using that option didn't want to leave - but because of advice given on the internet (including on this site), people were using it as a customer service department - even when there were quicker and easier options available.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

That is a rather silly point of view, why would liberty pay 15 billion for something when they could have waited until to was on its backside and got it for virtually nothing?

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

And the same about you as well

That is a wild and unsubstantiated claim from someone with no inside knowledge and have a strange infatuated blind hatred about the company you are posting about

the above fits most of your posts about VM perfectly

So if you are willing to post unsubstantiated bull excreta like that expect people to post there responce

I DO work for them and i have spoken to my colleges about this, You don't work for VM and you have not spoken to my colleges about this

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

The reason that the thinking of leaving us option was so popular was because it was the only way to get through to a UK call centre.

Hopefully Liberty will move all call centre jobs back to the UK as this is my biggest gripe with the company as a whole and I would happily sacrifice higher BB speeds and move to another provider for a UK only call centre if VM continue on their current path.

I also hope LG invest in new tech and expand the current footprint as well as expand their TV offering.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

That would certainly be a step in the right direction. :)

A hub that worked as expected would also help but massive investment in the network to be able to get rid of TM would be the clincher.

Alas I feel the scale of the massive investment in the network to achieve this aim to be a step to far for VM. :(

Nevertheless it will be fascinating to see what the future holds for VM now they are losing the BB trump card.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Look at how virgin have been broke and not able to invest in their network properly, look at how they have worded quarterly statements differently between quarters to hide worse figures, look at how the landscape is changing and where virgins weaknesses are.

When were Virgin broke?? Anyone else remember this? Last I heard someone wants to pay 15 billion for them, that's a lot for a business that's broke.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

The reason I started using 'the thinking of leaving us option' was because you couldn't guarantee that the normal customer service knew what they were talking about. I've been told incorrect pricing, and had to put them right. There was confusion over existing loyalty discounts when Tivo launched. They told me that I had to write to the CEO office when I was being overcharged for my services; that's when I phoned Retentions. I told them upfront that I wasn't leaving, but wanted the overcharge fixed and they did it in minutes. They were the ones who told me to always phone Retentions from then on, which I have done.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Ask RBS how their leveraged takeover of ABN AMRO went. A company paying a shedload of borrowed money for another company does make it a financially sound deal by default.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

l think you will find the RBS went belly up because of some deeply irresponsible risk taking which is not in the culture at either LG or VM.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

do LG have to pay virgin to use name : virgin media? when they take over ?

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

No they won't as Virgin Media are staying as they are, LG will own VM but nothing else changes.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Ok, Virginmedia is still a company with its own profits and loses and debt etc so Virginmedia will still have agreements it has to honor.

It may eventually be part of a larger "company" but it still has its own liability's. Just like how FORD Europe can be losing money and cut jobs, but FORD usa Can be making record profits and take on 1000 workers.

So if Virginmedia pay to use the Virgin brand then it will come from Virginmedias pocket not Libert cable. Just like if Virginmedia went bankrupt it would not also bring down Liberty or UPC/

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

ok thanks guys !

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

If Liberty did buy VM would they have the resouces to seriously invest in the network infrastructure? BT spent billions upgrading their network and are reaping the rewards now with BT Infinity. VM on the other hand appear to be increasing the connection speeds without seriously upgrading the network and using traffic management to fill the gap.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

VM have actually relaxed the traffic management as part of the upgrades

The tiers below 30Mbit have 75% management, the 30Mbit and above tiers all have 50% management

So that means a customer that was on XL 20 and was getting managed down to 5Mbit as part of the STM policy, is now on 60Mbit and gets managed to 30Mbit.

They wouldn't be able to do that if there wasn't also investment in the network

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

That is the very reason that I changed my XL 20 to XL 60. Because I use Netflix a lot, I was getting capped quite a bit, and on XL 20, the capped speed of 5meg wasn't fast enough to stream the new 5.8meg Super HD Netflix streams. Now that I'm on 60meg, they can cap me as much as they want, as 30 meg is more than adequate for anything I want to do. Even the 15meg cap of the 30meg service would be fine for me. This is why, for anyone on the 30meg and above service, I can't understand what the big deal is about capping?

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

I think it's all to do with having to take a broadband package that you might not really need, in order to get the service you require. What I mean is an unmanaged 20mb connection would probably suit most people’s needs. However to get a constant service that suits them, when restrictions are in place, 20mb might turn out to be useless meaning they need to take the next broadband speed up such as 60mb.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Why do you think an unmanaged 20Mbit connection would cost less than the current 60Mbit one does?

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

I haven't mentioned cost anywhere in my post.

Do you think an unmanaged 20mb connection should be the same price, or cost more than a managed 60mb connection?

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

I would expect it would cost more - which was my point.

It may not look like a customer wanting an unmanaged 20Mbit connection 'needs' 60Mbit, however if that gets them the level of service they want, then they need it - no matter the headline speed of the tier.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

I could be wrong on this, but is it just the people who download masses of HD pirated shows and films who complain about capping, and people who have normal usage requirments aren't even aware of being capped?

I am on XL BB and the only reason that I stayed in 20meg was that I had a rock solid modem and was reluctant to swap to the Superhub, which initially had a bad reputation. 20 meg was fine for me (even when capped) until Netflix introduced SuperHD a month or so ago, and so I swapped the modem. I now have the service level that meets my needs, even when capped.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

They will only need 60mb if their service provider is throttling lower broadband levels to the extent that they become unfit for purpose, for what that individual uses the internet for. The broadband provider is creating a false need for their faster broadband packages.

I think a truly unlimited 20mb connection should be cheaper than a managed 60mb connection. I have a truly unlimited 15mb broadband connection via my current provider which costs only £3.75 per month. It’s not as fast as the connection I had with Virgin however I know exactly what up and down speeds I’ll get 24/7 regardless of what I’m doing.

Ultimately it’s all in the customers hands. Nobody is being forced to take a throttled broadband service. There are multiple broadband suppliers now offering unlimited services at different speeds and prices. If people are not happy with a restricted service, they can go wherever they like at the end of their current contract.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

If that's the actual speed that you get, and it's consistently that speed, then it is very good for ADSL (which I believe you have?) I assume that price you pay is part of your Sky half price deal?


Certainly streaming services, which are becoming more and more popular, will shake the BB market up; more people are likely to go over the download limit and invoke capping as legal download services become more popular. And you do raise a good point re a an overall lower speed with no capping and a faster speed with capping. I think I'd choose the faster speed with capping for the odd occasion when I wanted to download something fast. But it's nowhere near clear cut.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

I'm the same however I only receive around 9mb , that said its flawless on Netflix Super HD , YouTube and it gets a hammering with Sky On Demand content. :D

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

It's been very consistent so far. I live close to the exchange and very close to the cabinet in the street. Not everyone will get 15mb, I'm just very lucky.

£3.75 per month is part of my SKY half price deal for 12 months. I have however noticed that SKY has a deal available to all new and existing customers switching their broadband and line rental to SKY. Take a 12 month contract, get the first 6 months of unlimited broadband totally free. That’s only £45 for a whole years worth of unlimited broadband, which is what I’m paying. Essentially SKY unlimited broadband is currently half price for everyone at the moment, depending on what services you take with them.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

To be honest if you've been a virgi media customer paying £35 for broadband then go to sky and get your broadband for £7.50 it's very hard to ever want to pay over £30 again for BB/Phoneline ever again. I would rather put the extra £15-£20 on 2 extra sky HDmultiroom boxes or Sky sports if I didn't have them.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Who's paying £35 then as many customers are on different bundles and pay nothing like your quoted figure by you.:erm:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Well said,if that figure was true I would only be paying £14 per month for XL TV , TiVo , V+ & phone line :erm: pay around £50 with calls !!!

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Agree 100%

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100Mb broadband on it's own is £35.00. Of course not everyone will have broadband just on it's own, but it's not too uncommon.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

http://empowerednews.net/nasdaqvmed-...filed/1835712/

I have been reading about the allegations that the Virgin Media Board breached their fiduciary duties ever since the details of the takeover became public but now it appears that the Shareholders Foundation have decided to challenge the takeover in the courts.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Have seen something and in here
http://www.cnssecuritieslaw.com/2013/02/14/756.htm

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Don't you just love legal jargon. Defendants have "exacerbated their breaches of fiduciary duty" I really must try to work that phrase into a conversation some time soon. :D

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Oh my :shocked:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

i don't really want to involve in this kind of businnes (to much changes around the world in general) ... it was my first post in this thread ... the previous poster mentioned about court and just posted a link from solicitor's web

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Welcome to the buffering fest :LOL:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Come on Mick that's a bit unfair.:)

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Possibly Den....

But I speak from my experience of VM's dire performance with youtube. :(

It was just one of the many reasons that I left.

I have no problems streaming on SkyFibre :)

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

And sadly some people will have bad experiences but luckily my experiences have always been generally good.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

I have had both good and bad and thankfully the good outweighs the bad. If it turns the other way i would then look at my options just like anyone else.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Looks like a spending spree?

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/wsj-li...4#.UUnWOxfK6ro

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Just for clarification, Liberty Media is nothing to do with Liberty Global, other than John Malone has a stake in both.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Looking at that link does anyone have any info on the Horizon box that Liberty uses?

EDIT

http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...hes-Horizon-TV

wow! this is what i thought Tivo was meant to be like

Horizon TV changes your tablet, smartphone or laptop into a television. An iPad can be used as a remote control or as an additional TV screen in the home. At the same time, customers can wirelessly stream personal content from their computers, tablets and smartphones onto their TV screens.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

I would think most people will have a new TV with those capabilities built in before the Horizon box comes here. Sky and I think virgin too have android and iPad/iPhone apps that are tv guides but also change the channel, or can use Zeebox as an alternative. Sky users can stream on demand and live tv to both android/apple tablets and phones and virgin can stream to the apple devices. Any new tv and smart phone allows you to stream video files to and from each other. On my Galaxy S3 for example I can press the tv icon while playing my own recordings and it plays on the tv, or I can browse youtube on the phone and tell it to play to the tv.

I would have thought an STB would have to be something more special these days, unless there is enough people with older tv's

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Tivo already has some of that, and there is no reason why the rest couldn't be added. Some of the missing bits are because of the restrictions of UK broadcasters, and the Horizon box would have the same restrictions. In the US, there is a 4 tuner Tivo.

The important feature the Tivo has, that the Horizon box doesn't is Whishlists, and it's possible that Tivo patents prevent them ever being added to the Horizon box.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

The march into Europe goes on for Liberty. They have just bought a stake in Dutch cable operator Ziggo.

http://www.france24.com/en/20130328-...cable-operator

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Liberty Global's $15.8 billion Virgin Media deal cleared in EU.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...93E0CP20130415

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Sky didn't have to cable up street after street, they just lease capacity on a few satellites along with other broadcasters.

There are many people who don't want to pay for subscription TV, I know many people who are happy with just Freeview and were happy with just the 5 channels before they had no choice but to have Freeview if they wanted to keep watching TV. A few others I know are happy with just Freesat.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Got a neighbour with Virgin BB & Phone, but who refuses to pay for TV. Says he pays out enough for a TV licence so why should he pay more. Then he moans on about all the stuff he's missing on GOLD :rolleyes:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

So what do people see as the benefits of Liberty Global taking over Virgin? It just seems to be business as normal. It looks like they just acquired Virgin for the assets it has to me.

Are they going to invest anywhere?

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Lets give it a bit of time before we start making assumptions about what might or might not happen.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

How fast do you expect them to change? While they may have been discussing doing this for months (or possibly years), the deal has only just (in the past few days) received the approval from the EU it needed.

Even assuming Liberty wish to make major changes (and that is by no means a given), it will, at the very least, take them months (if not years) to implement them.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

If Liberty are planning to swap TiVo for the Horizon box, let's hope it takes them decades ;):D

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Indeed as it would feel like a death in the family if we had to give up our beloved TiVo.:bigcry::bigcry:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

All I say to that neighbour Nodrogd, is if he went to catch up TV service only (non live broadcast); which he wouldn't have to pay for a TV licence then, upgrade with some of the money saved from the TVL **** fee to upgrade his internet package & buy a IPTV set top box to view all better quality services online without any problems. You don't need a new digital TV to view the online services either, you can use a analogue TV set if you wish; which many do..... LLF

All of this would pay for it's self within a single year of starting the whole project + save money to be spent else where.. hell even a new IPTV box each year if one worked the figures & still have a few pound to spare each year. Who needs to watch repeats all the time.... I don't; Just watch what I want when I want to watch it.....it's as simple as that :cool: You can plan your viewing time around your day & not worry you missed all the rest of the rubbish that's on TV.

Toonlight

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Could be more changes afoot.

http://www.cityam.com/article/vodafo...ad-liberty-bid

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Now that would be interesting.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Somehow l cannot see this happening.:nono:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Well you're wrong about most things, so I don't see why this will be any different.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Hopefully he is right about this. Had past problems with Vodafone so if they bought out Virgin then I would look into going without BB, TV and phone. CS @ Vodafone is rubbish, wouldn't touch them with a 10000 foot barge pole.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Pure speculation

Not impossible, but not very probable

The Story this morning very probably had its origins from this piece in the Sunday times a week ago.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1248333.ece

which in itself again was only comment, and not news in any way.

For it to happen, Verizon would first have to buy Vodafones stake, and Vodafone would have to want to sell.

Then of course Malone would have to want to sell to Vodafone, and this would all need to be OK'd by Europe too.

Analysts only give this a 20% chance of happening.

Of course never say never, but it's unlikely.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

I hope it doesn't happen, l am with Vodaphone at the moment and they totally rubbish, they have been trying to sort out a problem on the PAYG network for the past three months and it still isn't working properly.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

l see you have a nice sense of humour for today dear chap.:waving:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Wow - do you have problems with everything that you purchase :confused:

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

For the past three months, l have had to call VP regarding my phone package, it should be automatic, but they 'claim' they have a techincal fault.

So, when l call them, they say that l can do it myself, but it should be done automatically by VP.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Liberty have just announced their Q1 results - gives a bit of an insight into where they are heading from a strategy perpective.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/libert...211900365.html

“Innovation remains a core focus this year as we continue to invest in the development of new product offerings. We launched our Horizon TV platform in Switzerland in Q1, with Ireland and Germany to follow later this year. Through April, we had over 200,000 Horizon TV subscribers in the Netherlands and Switzerland. In addition, we have significantly increased our broadband speeds in markets like the Netherlands, where we have key bundles positioned with 100 Mbps and a top-tier bundle at 200 Mbps.”

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Most interesting. Did not see this anywhere else, so thanks for highlighting here.

I've said here and on other forums for a long time, that the UK will end up with 3 or 4 "vertically integrated" media companies. They will own their own delivery platform, a terrestrial broadcast channel, broadband and mobile.

If this vodafone deal happens, I expect sky and bt will either buy a mobile operator themselves or be bought by a mobile operator. Then the battle to buy ITV will restart and the loser will be left with Channel 5 and Channel 4, if it ever goes private.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

It isn't looking good for the future of Tivo, as VM's STB, unless Liberty let VM row their own boat with regard to set top box choice.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

VM is, at long last, a successful company with healthy revenues, debt under control, increasing subscriber base, increasing RGUs, innovative products, fantastic brand etc, etc, etc,

Which is the exact reason they have been bought by Liberty.

If you think
Liberty are now going to come along, throw all that in the toilet and make wholesale changes that may threaten any if that? I don't think so.

Any changes will be behind the scenes, initially, no doubt other changes will come but none that would dramatically change what VM do now or their current medium term plan.

They just spent 16 billion dollars buying VM, they will want a return on that.

Re: US Cable Giant Liberty Global buys Virgin Media
 

Would like to see something that improves on the Tivo as not really impressed by it at all.