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Also am sure that TiVo is different to the V+ as it uses the 10MB line in the box for all the apps and extras/interactive rather than the older method of the cable return path. Although its probably possible to still use it if needed.

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But doesn't TIVO use the cable path return pth for Sky Sports red button? Rather than intenet based?

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Yes as far as I know it does, which again proves that TiVo is capable of doing what the V+HD can do if the channel provider wishes it to ;)

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I find it amazing that it's the opening of the football season and there is no football on the BBC Sport app, only Formula 1 and Olympics (which is now over)

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One word and that is shocking.:(:td:

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Thought this may be worth reviving this thread for

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcintern...n_changes.html

So I reckon that the BBC will create an IPTV version of the single Red Button stream that will remain after the others stop this month

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Ben
S4C still say its down to Virgin to "work " the red button on its channel. Circles come to mind. :)

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What has that got to do with the BBC Red Button service on TiVo?

If you are talking about the alternate audio stream, that's works differently to the BBC Red Button apps - and has it's own thread

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Nothing really. except the buttons are both red. Glad Freeview & Sky do not have the issues Virgin have around this sore point :cool:

Side point BBC fund S4C now perhaps both services will get worse on Virgin !!! as Clearly BBC in Wales rate Virgin as a low priority. I Player in Cardiff area is rubbish & that is down to them - is it not

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Final Score was on the red button on Saturday afternoon so at least some progress there.

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Yes a little progress is better then none.

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One small step along the road ------ All together now:D

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I'm glad to see upcoming events on the forum here which says both teletext and another lost service are coming this year, but if Virgin genuinely doesn't have a compatible system with teletext I do wonder how they know it's even possible to resolve let alone when. I've also discovered text cropping up on more Freeview channels, albeit not news, and I've pretty much lost track of what's going on in the world now (not such a bad thing) as I'd relied on teletext for decades and don't waste money on newspapers which only have a few things worth reading in hundreds. Nowadays people say 'Do you know about...' and I have no idea, it's like being on permanent holiday abroad.

Do we think they'll really get it this year or was that said just to stop people leaving?

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No digital service is compatible with 'teletext'. However some other services currently have more text on their interactive services than the BBC apps do on TiVo.

When that changes is down to the BBC - as is shown by the increasing options on the Sports app and the forthcoming Connected Red Button app

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Teletext really :erm: That is a blast from the past. Did not know it was even suggested it was making a return. Seems old hat for Tivo :) How ever I recall I used a lot many moons ago. Before BB I guess:p:
Just seen Bens post guess that "kills" teletext as we know/knew it

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"More" text? We have none at all so I'm not sure where you're coming from there. Secondly you are contradicting an earlier post (I'm not scrolling pages to find it) which blamed the software on the Tivo, which was the best in the world but American, so didn't 'fit' our text system. Now you are handing that back to the BBC, which is physically impossible as they have always had the identical Freetext service as it was introduced with Freeview. As we do not receive the Freeview channels then whatever other goodies came along with them were also absent, and secondly that can't be true as even ITV still have advertising on their teletext service like they did when they dropped the news from the analogue text.

"Teletext really That is a blast from the past."

No, that's Ceefax. What do you call news available on the red button on Sky and Freeview in text form? I thought teletext was the generic term, is there another one?

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There is text news in the BBC News app

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/help-17655000

There isn't a single 'text' system. Freeview and Freesat use one system, Sky use another, and the V boxes use a different one again. The BBC wrote the services on each of the those systems to look the same, but they are technically different.

What TiVo couldn't originally do is the whole concept of 'Red Button' but that was introduced last year and updated at the beginning of this, and Sky have been using it for their Sports interactive service for months

teletext was the generic term for analogue text system. The generic term for Digital services has become 'Red Button' but that covers multiple technologies

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When are we going to get text news on the sports app Ben?.

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Honest answer is whenever the BBC decide to it

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Thanks Ben and l for one apportion no blame to Virgin on this but l do wish BBC would start to get its skates on as regards the BBC sports app because as it stands it is like a skeleton without half its bones at the moment.

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IPad app? Virgin should just launch it even if not fully ready and update along the way.

BBC red button for TiVo? Why have they launched this unfinished piece of crap?

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Speak to the people who effectively cut the BBC's budget! ;)

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Definite development, I can now access the news index, but when I select a category it just sent me back to the video clip. But I expect the presence of it implies a step towards written content. Is it a transitional stage or have I missed a step, or is it faulty?

As far as red button's concerned there is still another text button on the Tivo remote, so was clearly built to do that as well. And finally Freeview has text/red button on non-BBC channels, any chance we'll ever get any as well?

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There are text articles in the BBC News App but its not obvious they are there or how to get at them.

Load the app from the apps section or the red button on a bbc tv (or radio) channel, press up to get the bar with the video thumbnails, then up again to get a drop down menu of categories which you can then browse to text stories. More instructions at the link below

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/help-17655000

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I think you need to keep going 'Up'.

Actually the 'Text' button is specific to the VM version of TiVo. It's not on the US version. I think it was put there as 'in case' as it's on the V box remotes too - but has never done anything Virgin related. However if you've set up the remote to control your TV, then 'Text' is input select

You mean like you can on NatGeo and Sky Sports? For the most part 'Red Button' is just a way to access interactive services connect to a channel. TiVo has a dedicates apps section - so there are apps there from PBS America, Cartoon Network and CNBC - which would normally be classed as 'Red Button'

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Got it, text is go! Now will we get C5+1 next? Please?

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What ever name you care to refer to the type of service by( Think Hoover for vacuum cleaners) Its a blast from the past in my home :D

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I see the strictly come dancing red button commentary doesn't work on TiVo, what's that all about? Isn't TiVo supposed to be the future and of I want to have interactive services like that I have to use freeview

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Yes at the moment the BBC red button service for the TiVo is extremely poor and this is down to the BBC's snail like speed in developing the red button service on the TiVo.:td:

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Thanks for the quick heads up.
Big fail BBC

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I went to do exactly the same thing as well haveing recently just got my new TiVo box.

So there is NO interaction with ANY BBC programmes at present only the NEWS, SPORT or I-PLAYER option. Is there a time frame as to when this connectivity will be available on TiVo?:(

(I'm SO glad I kept my V+HD box phew!!) :)

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http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...e/td-p/1500908

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So no idea then . Unlike S4C who keep telling me its there but Virgin don`t want it. Customers first. Sorry but that is a joke. :erm:

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I no see no reason why VM won't be doing it. Up till recently S4C were adamant that VM couldn't do it not wouldn't do it, so I wonder how much engagement there was from them?

I'm sure it'll be on the list of things to add to TiVo

Also BBC Red Button and the alternate audio stream for S4C are completely different technically so the S4C thing is irrelevent to this thread

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More words match than don`t in the title topic ;):D

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For those not in the know S4C refer to it as the "Red button" what is does is another matter

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TBH, no it's not. You are the one that created the thread about S4C http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...-the-rest.html so why not use that to discuss it further, rather than this thread which is about BBC Red Button on TiVo, and not S4C on TiVo

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Can someone please explain how this RED BUTTON works on VM, and it is frustrating.

Watching the games on SS4 it stated that you could watch the different games, go to the channel (Celtic), try to go back to the Chelsea game, Red Button doesn't work.

Went to SS2 and did exactly the same as that is what my box was telling me, did that and found that l couldn't go back to the channel l wanted on the red button, so l had to keep going back to the guide and do it all again - driving me nuts.

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I sense that this is hitting a nerve. Pity I cant hit the red button ( at least not via Virgin) :shocked:

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And here we are near on in to December and still there is no improvement in the BBC Sports app.:td:

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What's this then? Do we actually have a Red Botton service starting today. http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...-boost-1117026

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Its working on my Tivo and is an improvement on the old version.

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Great news but I hope they've sorted the appalling picture quality and buffering/stuttering issues on the streams. Watching multiscreen for Wimbledon this year was disgracefully bad.

---------- Post added at 16:31 ---------- Previous post was at 16:29 ----------

..Oh and "It's not looking likely that the nifty new Red Button services will come to Sky though.

Daniel Danker, general manager of BBC programmes and on demand at the BBC told us, "Sky is a closed platform – I shouldn't even call it a platform, it's a closed service. There's no open platform to develop into. I have no line of sight of Connected Red Button coming to Sky unless they shift their approach."


:)

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Looks as if Sky will be missing out on the new service:



---------- Post added at 16:37 ---------- Previous post was at 16:36 ----------


Beat me to it!

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It certainly appears that way , disappointing I suppose , I'm sure many on Sky have made use of the red button facility at some point , that said the BBC has that little sport these days can't say I use it apart from for F1 on rare occasions which could very well end up wholly on pay TV at the end of its current contract so not a biggie for me however I'm sure it will be for many Sky users.

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i like it well done virgin :)

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...n-service.html

Daniel Danker, the BBC’s general manager of on demand, could not say whether the Connected Red Button will be available to Sky subscribers, because BSkyB's is less "open" to outside content providers than Virgin Media.

WOW! Mr. Danker should read the comments posted on the Coming Soon thread. I don't think any Virgin customer would agree with that statement.

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You should be ok M8 you have a connected TV;)

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Ive used it tonight to watch a prog and it is so much better then what we had a massive improvement.

Well done BBC and virgin.:)

Also more to come apparently.:D

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What i'm now wanting to find out is when a program says some thing like 'Press the red button for alternative commentry' or 'Press the red button to take part in the program' will those features actually now be available to Tivo.

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Hallelujah, finally at last! I can now watch multi channel streams for sports like snooker, wimbledon. This was my only bugbear from going from V+HD box to Tivo so it's good to have it finally resolved on the Tivo now. Although I noticed it seems to be driven by internet as you get the spinning disc every now and again when it buffers, so that might be a problem when we have network issues.

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Just gone on to red button to carry on watching the snooker, is it me or does the PQ look strobey?

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it uses the internet stream

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Yes it does.

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It only happens on certain camera angles, is it also stuttering?

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Yes.

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Not good, it's making my eyes go funny.

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Of course due to the older Red Button changes, TiVo can access to more live sport content that all the other platforms ;)

The stupid thing just quit bacl to BBC2!

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/...d-8th-February

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Thanks Ben for the update.

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Used the Red button late last night - Forgot to set Silent witness part two ( normally just watch) It was SO much better than it was when I last tried prior to Christmas as I recall. Well done BBC. Its nothing to do with Virgin ( Or so I was told before)

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Yes indeed you are correct in your assumption as its the BBC that has full responsibilty with its Red Button.

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It is a very good menu system, shame anytime I try to use the iPlayer it just stutters constantly.

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The BBC have published a technical blog post about the CRB http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/...ted-Red-Button

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Some details about the Glastonbury coverage, including Connected Red Button coverage

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...bury-2013.html

Just to make it clear, this is from the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...al-glastonbury

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Nice :)

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Springwatch was available as an extra stream today on Tivo so the BBC are doing their bit at last.

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PQ and sound dreadful on Wimbledon :-( almost unwatchable at times.

What a load of rubbish compared to old tech Red Button which was perfect

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Just in from work, and every live game from the Wimbledon home page is unwatchable.

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Just found all the Red Button channels 991, 992, 993, etc ie without going through the red button.

Quality is very good

Why is this not advertised ? Why does it say "Red Button" rather than "Got to Ch 99x"

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I take it your watching via the BBC sports app if its any consolation its the same using the BBC Sports app on my PS3 , even when you select the HD option the PQ is awful nothing natural looking about it , I'm afraid these Internet streams the BBC has adopted just aren't up to the task of delivering decent PQ when it comes to sports action.

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Just posted a message on the Virgin Media forum and the BBC website about the poor picture quality through the Tivo BBC Sport app of the Wimbledon feeds. Ughh.. they are eye blurringly awful to watch. Are they running at 15 fps or something? Technically horrible.

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I thought the HD stream on the red button channel was fine...

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That's because its delivered in a different way , try going into the BBC Sport app and selecting a live match then change the setting to HD and you'll see what we mean. ;)

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would only do that for the games not on the streams ;-)

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Lottery results are now on the Connected Red Button http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...e/td-p/2011178